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Originally Posted By Train57⏩
Really smart people usually don´t want to take part in a pyramid scheme, or even care about becoming rich. The smartest people I know of care about reality, and/or a wide range of topics like a polymath. The point of this thread is that you usually won´t find the smartest people being CEO´s, politicians or super wealthy. Ramana maharshi was one smart fukkin individual, and he lived in a god damn cave for a long period of time, contemplating the nature of existence. Greedy egomaniacs full of delusion are usually those who rise to the top in this society. Not always, but a lot of the time.not really if he was smart he would have invested into bitcoin and gotten rich
The smartest people I know of are NOT a part of the rat race which all of you take part in. You will have to look somewhere else to find them. Chris Langan speaks on this sometimes. And you would know he is super smart if you have listened to him for a while.
Many of you believe that the people that have risen to the top of society, the rich and the famous, are the brightest and best among us. What if they tend to actually be the worst amongst us in many cases? Manipulative, greedy people that will do everything to get ahead. Only zoomed in on their little reality of success, not caring about anything else.
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
lol okay alot of homeless people are smart too but they are still homeless while I spend my money living in a nice warm apartment?Really smart people usually don´t want to take part in a pyramid scheme, or even care about becoming rich. The smartest people I know of care about reality, and/or a wide range of topics like a polymath. The point of this thread is that you usually won´t find the smartest people being CEO´s, politicians or super wealthy. Ramana maharshi was one smart fukkin individual, and he lived in a god damn cave for a long period of time, contemplating the nature of existence. Greedy egomaniacs full of delusion are usually those who rise to the top in this society. Not always, but a lot of the time.
The smartest people I know of are NOT a part of the rat race which all of you take part in. You will have to look somewhere else to find them. Chris Langan speaks on this sometimes. And you would know he is super smart if you have listened to him for a while.
Many of you believe that the people that have risen to the top of society, the rich and the famous, are the brightest and best among us. What if they tend to actually be the worst amongst us in many cases? Manipulative, greedy people that will do everything to get ahead. Only zoomed in on their little reality of success, not caring about anything else.
The smartest people I know of are NOT a part of the rat race which all of you take part in. You will have to look somewhere else to find them. Chris Langan speaks on this sometimes. And you would know he is super smart if you have listened to him for a while.
Many of you believe that the people that have risen to the top of society, the rich and the famous, are the brightest and best among us. What if they tend to actually be the worst amongst us in many cases? Manipulative, greedy people that will do everything to get ahead. Only zoomed in on their little reality of success, not caring about anything else.
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Originally Posted By jakobi⏩
Some smart people realize that all knowledge is false, so no mattter how much you invent or how much knowledge and prestige you gain, it probly won´t make your life more enjoyable. The ony knowledge that can be ever had is: I exist/conscioussness.smart people read, learn, and invent things...not work at a god damn farm
Some smart people realize that more knowledge can be the last thing you need. Just lol at people spending their entire lives working hard and learning more. Unless they enjoyed it, it won´t mean chit.
Originally Posted By Train57⏩
Nice strawmanlol okay alot of homeless people are smart too but they are still homeless while I spend my money living in a nice warm apartment?
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
This is what I find intriguing about the unabomber's ideologies. He's a certified genius w/ a 167 IQ and attended Harvard on a scholarship at 16. He also completed a PHD.Really smart people usually don´t want to take part in a pyramid scheme, or even care about becoming rich. The smartest people I know of care about reality, and/or a wide range of topics like a polymath. The point of this thread is that you usually won´t find the smartest people being CEO´s, politicians or super wealthy. Ramana maharshi was one smart fukkin individual, and he lived in a god damn cave for a long period of time, contemplating the nature of existence. Greedy egomaniacs full of delusion are usually those who rise to the top in this society. Not always, but a lot of the time.
The smartest people I know of are NOT a part of the rat race which all of you take part in. You will have to look somewhere else to find them. Chris Langan speaks on this sometimes. And you would know he is super smart if you have listened to him for a while.
Many of you believe that the people that have risen to the top of society, the rich and the famous, are the brightest and best among us. What if they tend to actually be the worst amongst us in many cases? Manipulative, greedy people that will do everything to get ahead. Only zoomed in on their little reality of success, not caring about anything else.
The smartest people I know of are NOT a part of the rat race which all of you take part in. You will have to look somewhere else to find them. Chris Langan speaks on this sometimes. And you would know he is super smart if you have listened to him for a while.
Many of you believe that the people that have risen to the top of society, the rich and the famous, are the brightest and best among us. What if they tend to actually be the worst amongst us in many cases? Manipulative, greedy people that will do everything to get ahead. Only zoomed in on their little reality of success, not caring about anything else.
He is essentially anti-technology and suggests that it is causing more harm to society than it does good. It's essentially the subject of his manifesto.
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Yeah well I have 89 IQ and I clean floors for a living nomsayin
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Originally Posted By digital022⏩
Yep, thats an interesting debate to be had.This is what I find intriguing about the unabomber's ideologies. He's a certified genius w/ a 167 IQ and attended Harvard on a scholarship at 16. He also completed a PHD.
He is essentially anti-technology and suggests that it is causing more harm to society than it does good. It's essentially the subject of his manifesto.
He is essentially anti-technology and suggests that it is causing more harm to society than it does good. It's essentially the subject of his manifesto.
One of the worst parts of humans today, is the widespread ignorance. The worst type of ignorance where you think you know/understand something you don´t. This is the human condition, and this ignorance is even about who we are and what reality itself is. We are all frauds, but just lol at listening to someone who takes reality for granted without deeply questioning it.
You all worship these billionaires, inventors and celebs, yet they are disgusting egomaniac frauds at the end of the day, living a life full of ignorance and lies. And they have completely failed to understand what it means to be human.
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The guy in the OP has a long list of laughable beliefs, including George Bush orchestrating 9/11. There are literally 12 year olds that have contributed more to understanding our universe than this dimwit. I suspect in some ways he’s a fast and sharp thinker, but it also appears he is incapable of deep thought.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
Maybe he has had some dumb beliefs. At the end of the day are all beliefs dumb. But I disagree with the rest of your comment. He explains things good in his CTMU theory, all though I haven´t read it all. And crazy beliefs like George Bush being behind 9/11 are not that far fetched. You don´t know the answer either, you´re just guessing. Don´t be too sure of yourself.The guy in the OP has a long list of laughable beliefs, including George Bush orchestrating 9/11. There are literally 12 year olds that have contributed more to understanding our universe than this dimwit. I suspect in some ways he’s a fast and sharp thinker, but it also appears he is incapable of deep thought.
Reply to the ******* 2am that negged me. I don´t think nor claim to be deep. You assuming what self image I have of myself is ignorant. As always, check your assumptions. You don´t know if I´m playing double game or not. I´m aware of my ego and how it operates, something I suspect most people are not.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
One of the negatives of high iq is the ability to form complex arguments in favor of nonsense. High IQ doesn't make a person correct or moral unfortunately.The guy in the OP has a long list of laughable beliefs, including George Bush orchestrating 9/11. There are literally 12 year olds that have contributed more to understanding our universe than this dimwit. I suspect in some ways he’s a fast and sharp thinker, but it also appears he is incapable of deep thought.
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Ted Kazcynski was a legit genius also just sayin
12-28-2020, 11:02 AM
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you forget this is the misc - a good portion of people here idolize him.Ted Kazcynski was a legit genius also just sayin
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Fkn lol at "smartest man in America". Sorry, not even close...not even in the same ballpark actually (realizing that the term smart itself is a silly term). Reading up just a little on this guy who dropped out of Montana State University, you will see about his grandiose "Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe", which is not much more than a joke of babble.
Here is an interview on coast to coast AM. Ignoring that he seems to be miscalculating basic arithmetic in the beginning on the fly (that he was 47 or 48 in 1999....not if his birth date was March 25, 1952), and if you can get through all the "smart" and IQ nonsense in the beginning, he then starts talking about some of his ideas......and it's largely babble. Mindless metaphysical babble....skip to 15:00 in the above video, and it just goes on and on. "Nothing can really move from one point to another outside you".....external reality isnt real.....blah blah. He continues to go on about this stuff, about consciousness, and there seems to be little to no good science here (the mentions of quantum mechanics etc seem to be right up crank alley...QM is a popular target for this).
Compare to Terry Tao, as ising above brought up (you could call him Australian, but he does live in the California so fits the OP). Tao is a Fields Medalist who has actually accomplisheda ton, including publishing hundreds of papers in advanced mathematics, including for example proving the Green-Tao theorem about arbitrarily long arithmetic progressions in the primes. Note just how different this latter theorem is from Langan's grandiose philosophical babbling.....it is concrete, objectively checkable, andhard. Lol at putting emphasis on IQ or other kindergarten pattern recognition tests (if the IQ claim is even correct).
Here is an interview on coast to coast AM. Ignoring that he seems to be miscalculating basic arithmetic in the beginning on the fly (that he was 47 or 48 in 1999....not if his birth date was March 25, 1952), and if you can get through all the "smart" and IQ nonsense in the beginning, he then starts talking about some of his ideas......and it's largely babble. Mindless metaphysical babble....skip to 15:00 in the above video, and it just goes on and on. "Nothing can really move from one point to another outside you".....external reality isnt real.....blah blah. He continues to go on about this stuff, about consciousness, and there seems to be little to no good science here (the mentions of quantum mechanics etc seem to be right up crank alley...QM is a popular target for this).
Compare to Terry Tao, as ising above brought up (you could call him Australian, but he does live in the California so fits the OP). Tao is a Fields Medalist who has actually accomplisheda ton, including publishing hundreds of papers in advanced mathematics, including for example proving the Green-Tao theorem about arbitrarily long arithmetic progressions in the primes. Note just how different this latter theorem is from Langan's grandiose philosophical babbling.....it is concrete, objectively checkable, andhard. Lol at putting emphasis on IQ or other kindergarten pattern recognition tests (if the IQ claim is even correct).
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Imagine if Chris Langan had a day job that was mentally exhausting. He wouldn´t have much energy to work on his own interests that require deep thinking. When he is working on his farm, he can think about his theories of reality while he is doing manual labour. Imagine if Einstein was working full time as a code developer during day. He would probably not have much energy to go home after work and engage in another even more mentally exhausting task.
Thinking is a tool, and abuse of it can lead to less life enjoyment. Smart people get this. Think think think, repetitive thoughts. That is how you´re spending your life. At least in manual labour you are not required to think as much.
I partly agree with the post above^^I don´t know if he is the smartest man in America. Who the hell knows. He is very smart though, that I´m pretty sure of.
I think many people are overestimating science however. Even the smartest scientists don´t know the nature of reality, and have trouble defining it. Science has done a lot for us, but at the end of the day, it´s just another belief system that can never be proven true. It´s about probability.
One can be super smart and achieved the greatest things in a scientific field, yet be completely oblivious to the nature of reality, truth or one self. In other words, most scientists are frauds living a fraud life playing a false character on a stage.
Thinking is a tool, and abuse of it can lead to less life enjoyment. Smart people get this. Think think think, repetitive thoughts. That is how you´re spending your life. At least in manual labour you are not required to think as much.
I partly agree with the post above^^I don´t know if he is the smartest man in America. Who the hell knows. He is very smart though, that I´m pretty sure of.
I think many people are overestimating science however. Even the smartest scientists don´t know the nature of reality, and have trouble defining it. Science has done a lot for us, but at the end of the day, it´s just another belief system that can never be proven true. It´s about probability.
One can be super smart and achieved the greatest things in a scientific field, yet be completely oblivious to the nature of reality, truth or one self. In other words, most scientists are frauds living a fraud life playing a false character on a stage.
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Originally Posted By jakobi⏩
There is no other job where you learn more, invent more or work harder then on a farm.smart people read, learn, and invent things...not work at a god damn farm
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Accomplishments =/= intelligenceFkn lol at "smartest man in America". Sorry, not even close...not even in the same ballpark actually (realizing that the term smart itself is a silly term). Reading up just a little on this guy who dropped out of Montana State University, you will see about his grandiose "Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe", which is not much more than a joke of babble.
Here is an interview on coast to coast AM. Ignoring that he seems to be miscalculating basic arithmetic in the beginning on the fly (that he was 47 or 48 in 1999....not if his birth date was March 25, 1952), and if you can get through all the "smart" and IQ nonsense in the beginning, he then starts talking about some of his ideas......and it's largely babble. Mindless metaphysical babble....skip to 15:00 in the above video, and it just goes on and on. "Nothing can really move from one point to another outside you".....external reality isnt real.....blah blah. He continues to go on about this stuff, about consciousness, and is clearly untrained in actual science (such as quantum mechanics- quacks love to go on about quantum mechanics, it's a popular target).
Compare to Terry Tao, as ising above brought up (you could call him Australian, but he does live in the California so fits the OP). Tao is a Fields Medalist who has actually accomplisheda ton, including publishing hundreds of papers in advanced mathematics, including for example proving the Green-Tao theorem about arbitrarily long arithmetic progressions in the primes. Note just how different this latter theorem is from Langan's grandiose philosophical babbling.....it is concrete, objectively checkable, andhard. Lol at putting emphasis on IQ or other kindergarten pattern recognition tests (if the IQ claim is even correct).
Here is an interview on coast to coast AM. Ignoring that he seems to be miscalculating basic arithmetic in the beginning on the fly (that he was 47 or 48 in 1999....not if his birth date was March 25, 1952), and if you can get through all the "smart" and IQ nonsense in the beginning, he then starts talking about some of his ideas......and it's largely babble. Mindless metaphysical babble....skip to 15:00 in the above video, and it just goes on and on. "Nothing can really move from one point to another outside you".....external reality isnt real.....blah blah. He continues to go on about this stuff, about consciousness, and is clearly untrained in actual science (such as quantum mechanics- quacks love to go on about quantum mechanics, it's a popular target).
Compare to Terry Tao, as ising above brought up (you could call him Australian, but he does live in the California so fits the OP). Tao is a Fields Medalist who has actually accomplisheda ton, including publishing hundreds of papers in advanced mathematics, including for example proving the Green-Tao theorem about arbitrarily long arithmetic progressions in the primes. Note just how different this latter theorem is from Langan's grandiose philosophical babbling.....it is concrete, objectively checkable, andhard. Lol at putting emphasis on IQ or other kindergarten pattern recognition tests (if the IQ claim is even correct).
Not backing up this guy, as I've never heard of him. Just saying one's capacity to gain and retain knowledge isn't directly tied to their Accomplishments.
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
Funny to use Einstein and Langan in the same paragraph....those two arent even in the same universe.Imagine if Chris Langan had a day job that was mentally exhausting. He wouldn´t have much energy to work on his own interests that require deep thinking. When he is working on his farm, he can think about his theories of reality while he is doing manual labour. Imagine if Einstein was working full time as a code developer during day. He would probably not have much energy to go home after work and engage in another even more mentally exhausting task.
Thinking is a tool, and abuse of it can lead to less life enjoyment. Smart people get this. Think think think, repetitive thoughts. That is how you´re spending your life. At least in manual labour you are not required to think as much.
Thinking is a tool, and abuse of it can lead to less life enjoyment. Smart people get this. Think think think, repetitive thoughts. That is how you´re spending your life. At least in manual labour you are not required to think as much.
Im convinced various posters on the misc idolize this guy because of
-his conservative leaning (alt-right loves the guy) and odd takes on conspiracies
-he lifts
-his (who knows if true) IQ claims....since misc is obsessed with IQ (lol).
Meanwhile calling him some kind of "smartest man" is silly beyond all measure (see last post).
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tradies have the real intellectuals so i heard
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Whatever your definition of intelligence is....I probably dont care for. I can listen to the man in his own words (that interview)....and none of this helps the "intelligent" claim.Accomplishments =/= intelligence
Not backing up this guy, as I've never heard of him. Just saying one's capacity to gain and retain knowledge isn't directly tied to their Accomplishments.
Not backing up this guy, as I've never heard of him. Just saying one's capacity to gain and retain knowledge isn't directly tied to their Accomplishments.
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
I will most likely be right at one point. I don´t know where the price will go short term. I´m simply pointing out that bitcoin is very flawed, and is not sustainable. So, at some point it will fail. And in my eyes, it´s an obvious scam. But this thread is not about Bitcoin.No way he is smarter than OP. OP has been telling us BTC is going to die any minute now for quite some time. Sooner or later he will be right!
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What is his OnlyFarms page?
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
I don´t claim his is the smartest man ever. Clickbait thread title, thats all. I think he has a lot of interesting takes on things, and also some things I don´t agree with. I don´t worship him at all. But it seems to me that he is very smart, but also arrogant.Funny to use Einstein and Langan in the same paragraph....those two arent even in the same universe.
Im convinced various posters on the misc idolize this guy because of
-his conservative leaning (alt-right loves the guy) and odd takes on conspiracies
-he lifts
-his (who knows if true) IQ claims....since misc is obsessed with IQ (lol).
Meanwhile calling him some kind of "smartest man" is silly beyond all measure (see last post).
Im convinced various posters on the misc idolize this guy because of
-his conservative leaning (alt-right loves the guy) and odd takes on conspiracies
-he lifts
-his (who knows if true) IQ claims....since misc is obsessed with IQ (lol).
Meanwhile calling him some kind of "smartest man" is silly beyond all measure (see last post).
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
So you think career/academic accomplishments define intelligence?Whatever your definition of intelligence is....I probably dont care for. I can listen to the man in his own words (that interview)....and none of this helps the "intelligent" claim.
Lmao.
If knowledge and understanding is water, intelligence is the size if the container.
One person could have a max capacity of 8 oz and have more knowledge and understanding than somebody with an Olympic pool sized intelligence.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
You think kindergarten pattern recognition tests define intelligence? LmaoSo you think career/academic accomplishments define intelligence?
Lmao.
Lmao.
I dont even care for the term intelligence btw. That's not the point of the above. The point is Im much more impressed with someone who is able to do actually hard things, such as proving new results in mathematics, or say Einstein who came up with the special and general theories of relativity, than someone just going on about philosophical babble (that's not really checkable or even meaningful etc).
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
They measure a type of intelligence, but they don´t include the full scope of course. There are many types of intelligences.IQ tests do not measure Intelligence. If you believe they do then you're an idiot
Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
I agree that those are more difficult and requires a lot of intelligence, but that doesn´t make them any more true or better.You think kindergarten pattern recognition tests define intelligence? Lmao
I dont even care for the term intelligence btw. That's not the point of the above. The point is Im much more impressed with someone who is able to do actually hard things, such as proving new results in mathematics, or say Einstein who came up with the special and general theories of relativity, than someone just going on about philosophical babble (that's not really checkable or even meaningful etc).
I dont even care for the term intelligence btw. That's not the point of the above. The point is Im much more impressed with someone who is able to do actually hard things, such as proving new results in mathematics, or say Einstein who came up with the special and general theories of relativity, than someone just going on about philosophical babble (that's not really checkable or even meaningful etc).
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Um wut?You think kindergarten pattern recognition tests define intelligence? Lmao).
Are we having honest discourse or just creating easily detestable strawmen?
Rather not waste my time.
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
When the term intelligence is used around the misc, they aren't capable of understanding that there is no single test that measures this.They measure a type of intelligence, but they don´t include the full scope of course. There are many types of intelligences.
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