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post 1626808713 12-28-2020, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted By cool-beans
its not young a thriving healthy people dying. its the old and sick. not saying thats ok and we should just leave em for dead. i think most people are upset at the extent of the lockdowns that anything. restrictions should be for the old and sick, not for everyone else.
This. Since jamesfrancis1 posted NYtimes as a source then he should also believe the CDC death rate per age. The vast majority are 64+. Isolate the old, send them relief such as stimulus checks and food/medical needs and let the rest of the US open up.
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Originally Posted By scare
You are such a estrogen filled *******. I legit cringed at reading what you typed. Simple, go look at total deaths in 2020 compared to the past 5 years. There’s your answer on how “deadly” covid has been.
Curious to what you actually think these numbers are.
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Originally Posted By DrunkNinjaMastr
I work for a pretty large company, and I know plenty of people who got it. A woman in our mailroom died, but she was also morbidly obese. A friend's Grandparents died. They were in their 90's. Another woman got it and had to go on the ventilator because she could barely breathe. She did have asthma. Her husband also had to get a liver transplant, although it would appear his liver was pretty much ****ed prior to him catching COVID, and COVID just accelerated the liver failure. I also know countless others who tested positive, but had minor effects and came back to work a week or two later and were completely fine. My dad's martial arts instructor caught it in the beginning. The guy is in his 80's. Pretty much everyone thought he was done for because we didn't understand much about the virus yet other than the media telling us it's bad. People thought he was done for but turns out the guy had minor symptoms and was perfectly fine.

I am guessing some of you live in small populations if you don't know of anyone who caught it, but it's out there and it's real. From my anecdotal experience, though, the only people who had severe complications, or died, had some prior underlying condition or were really old. Everyone I know who was generally healthy had minor flu-like symptoms and was fine.
We had a family friend that died from it. He was 86, but slim, healthy and functional.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7
Has that guy ever said anything positive?¹
Yep, early on when he said gen pop doesn't need to wear masks, then the machine got to him and he changed his tune.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7
Has that guy ever said anything positive?¹
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...or-early-april
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Originally Posted By messomi
America's top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci cautioned on Sunday that the United States is headed for the worst of the COVID-19 pandemic in the upcoming weeks as Americans will see the effects of the holiday season.

Fauci during an exclusive intercation with CNN said that the country is at a very critical point and he shares the concern of that as the U.S. gets into the next few weeks, it might actually get worse. Biden, who will take office in January, last week had said that "darkest days" against coronavirus "are ahead of us, not behind us."

Fauci had reportedly received the first dose of Moderna vaccine last week in Bethesda, Maryland. Fauci said he considered it an honor to be part of this process.

The COVID-19 case total in the United States surpassed the 19 million mark on Sunday, according to the US-based Johns Hopkins University, which tracks and compiles data from various sources including local authorities and media outlets.

US holiday travel this year was lower than in previous years, but air travel averaged more than one million passengers a day for six consecutive days last week, according to the Transportation Security Agency.


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Yeah, he's been saying that for almost a year. Who the **** listens to that spineless attention whore anymore? When he was telling the president to downplay the virus to not cause panic he wasn't getting enough attention, so he had to start fear-mongering to stay relevant.

He's a disgrace and in the Dem pocketbook.
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Originally Posted By jamesfrancis1
good chance 100k Americans will die in January alone that would not have died if not for COVID. I always laugh at the morons on this forum who can't comprehend that just because they can't see something happening themselves doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's 100,000+ grieving families, hospital bills, and completely shattered lives. These people would be alive if they had not caught COVID so don't come with your BS about them dying from something else. I can't imagine many of you are even real people and not malicious disinformation agents. You will go down in history as this country's biggest group of delusional morons who have brought about the downfall of a once great country. *******s.
Yeah it's called a pandemic. People die.

Average age of COVID death is higher than average life expectancy. It's going to cut some peoples lives short. Working age population should be carrying on as normal though outside of basic human hygiene and courtesy.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Yeah it's called a pandemic. People die.

Average age of COVID death is higher than average life expectancy. It's going to cut some peoples lives short. Working age population should be carrying on as normal though outside of basic human hygiene and courtesy.
This. Anyone that thinks differently is either stupid or corrupt.

Lives were never going to be saved. This is 100% political.
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I'm a big believer in the pandemic, however Fauci at this point is just saying things for media attention.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Yeah it's called a pandemic. People die.

Average age of COVID death is higher than average life expectancy. It's going to cut some peoples lives short. Working age population should be carrying on as normal though outside of basic human hygiene and courtesy.
You guys still have that cool science museum in Indianapolis? I used to go there when I was a kid living in Cincy and trade my fossils I found for new fossils. Srs.
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Originally Posted By cool-beans
its not young a thriving healthy people dying. its the old and sick. not saying thats ok and we should just leave em for dead. i think most people are upset at the extent of the lockdowns that anything. restrictions should be for the old and sick, not for everyone else.
Except old people have been locked up and they're still getting infected and dying from the virus. I don't understand how others can live carefree and without using basic precautions such as wearing a mask and maintaining social distance. I would not be able to live with myself knowing I infected a loved one, or even a stranger, and caused them to die from a disease that would have been prevented if I had taken minor precautions. You have be an absolute sociopath to truly not care of causing death to others just because you don't want to suffer minor inconveniences.
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Originally Posted By Kawhilights
This. Since jamesfrancis1 posted NYtimes as a source then he should also believe the CDC death rate per age. The vast majority are 64+. Isolate the old, send them relief such as stimulus checks and food/medical needs and let the rest of the US open up.
Yea and people 64+ can have another 30 years of life left in them. They also make up more than 50 million people in the US. Going about your daily life without taking basic precautions means you don't care if you inadvertently kill someone from your negligence. Completely sociopathic way of thinking and is sad how prevalent it is in the US,
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Originally Posted By P51
I'm a big believer in the pandemic
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Originally Posted By jamesfrancis1
Except old people have been locked up and they're still getting infected and dying from the virus. I don't understand how others can live carefree and without using basic precautions such as wearing a mask and maintaining social distance. I would not be able to live with myself knowing I infected a loved one, or even a stranger, and caused them to die from a disease that would have been prevented if I had taken minor precautions. You have be an absolute sociopath to truly not care of causing death to others just because you don't want to suffer minor inconveniences.
You just answered it.

Social distancing doesn't work. Masks don't work. Only washing your hands, disinfecting surfaces, and not touching your face works.

This is a scamdemic.

You are mistaken if you think older people want to be locked down. My parents are in their 70's and they think this is ridiculous. They have been through multiple pandemics and they are pissed off America has gotten so soft. My dad said back in the day there would have been straight up revolt.
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Also that 19 million is the CFR, estimates put actual infection numbers over 100 million.
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Originally Posted By sr7914
You guys still have that cool science museum in Indianapolis? I used to go there when I was a kid living in Cincy and trade my fossils I found for new fossils. Srs.
Yep have taken my kids there.

Indianapolis Children's Museum. They have a huge outdoor sporting complex now too. IIRC it's still rated the #1 Children's Museum in the country. If you or your kids like transformers they have a huge lik30ft tall Bumblebee in the lobby.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Yeah it's called a pandemic. People die.

Average age of COVID death is higher than average life expectancy. It's going to cut some peoples lives short. Working age population should be carrying on as normal though outside of basic human hygiene and courtesy.
dumb as fuk cuz. My childhood best friends mom died at 61 from it. She went to the gym everyday and had 0 underlying health issues. In fact the whole family got it and even her husband who is obese and has high blood pressure only had a cough. She went from hospital to dead in 48 hours. It effects everyone differently and not going to the bar can save a life.


Also youre ignoring there are 10m 65+ in the workforce still. Are you going to pay their paycheck?
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
You just answered it.

Social distancing doesn't work. Masks don't work. Only washing your hands, disinfecting surfaces, and not touching your face works.

This is a scamdemic.

You are mistaken if you think older people want to be locked down. My parents are in their 70's and they think this is ridiculous. They have been through multiple pandemics and they are pissed off America has gotten so soft. My dad said back in the day there would have been straight up revolt.
I believe there would be a revolt, but that generation is too old to really do much of anything, and the generations that succeed them have been compromised. I imagine once millennials hold congress and the senate, they will fully hand the keys over to China.

Our ancestors likely would have responded to the pandemic by burying their dead, saying a few prayers, and moving on with their business. Instead, we have politicians using the pandemic to push their communist agendas.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
You just answered it.

Social distancing doesn't work. Masks don't work. Only washing your hands, disinfecting surfaces, and not touching your face works.

This is a scamdemic.

You are mistaken if you think older people want to be locked down. My parents are in their 70's and they think this is ridiculous. They have been through multiple pandemics and they are pissed off America has gotten so soft. My dad said back in the day there would have been straight up revolt.
Right. So these old farts keep going on with their lives, eventually plugging up the Healthcare system by getting sick and hospitalized.

So what the phuck do we do?
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I haven't met a single old person who's as scared of this as young people are. When you get to a certain age, suffer through countless hardships over the years and see enough death you just don't give a fuk anymore. If its time to go, its time to go.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Yep have taken my kids there.

Indianapolis Children's Museum. They have a huge outdoor sporting complex now too. IIRC it's still rated the #1 Children's Museum in the country. If you or your kids like transformers they have a huge lik30ft tall Bumblebee in the lobby.
That's cool! Larger part of my company is HQ'd in Warsaw and I've heard good things about Indianapolis. Next time I come up I'll have to stay a couple extra days and check out the city with my wife. Last time I came up there I was by myself and barely had enough time to take a leak.
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Originally Posted By P51
dumb as fuk cuz. My childhood best friends mom died at 61 from it. She went to the gym everyday and had 0 underlying health issues. In fact the whole family got it and even her husband who is obese and has high blood pressure only had a cough. She went from hospital to dead in 48 hours. It effects everyone differently and not going to the bar can save a life.


Also youre ignoring there are 10m 65+ in the workforce still. Are you going to pay their paycheck?
People are going to die no matter what. There is NOTHING you can do about it. There is no saying who is genetically predisposed to be taken by this virus. It's called evolution. It's called survival of the fittest. There is no beating it until we have heard immunity. Even then, people are going be dying from COVID 50 years from now.

This is just going to be another yearly flu. You realize the Spanish influenza is still around and still kills people 100 years later, right?

Ruining 100's of millions of lives to try and save a few million, that were never going to be saved in the first place, is ludicrous.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
Right, people are going to die no matter what. There is NOTHING you can do about it. There is no saying who is genetically predisposed to be taken by this virus. It's called evolution. It's called survival of the fittest. There is no beating it until we have heard immunity.

This is just going to be another yearly flu. You realize the Spanish influenza is still around and still kills people 100 years later, right?
Actually there is something we can do about, we can limit interactions and limit the spread. Survival of the fittest? Suk a dick moron, you have never been to the hospital or taken medicine?
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Originally Posted By P51
dumb as fuk cuz. My childhood best friends mom died at 61 from it. She went to the gym everyday and had 0 underlying health issues. In fact the whole family got it and even her husband who is obese and has high blood pressure only had a cough. She went from hospital to dead in 48 hours. It effects everyone differently and not going to the bar can save a life.


Also youre ignoring there are 10m 65+ in the workforce still. Are you going to pay their paycheck?
Your anecdote is meaningless. Young people have died from the flu as well. Turns out bad things happen during pandemics. Those 65+ working can take whatever precautions they see fit. They're free to wear masks and shields. They can also retire if their not up for the risk.
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Originally Posted By Vexidi
I haven't met a single old person who's as scared of this as young people are. When you get to a certain age, suffer through countless hardships over the years and see enough death you just don't give a fuk anymore. If its time to go, its time to go.
Do you know old people?

My 84 year old uncle has a farm and a condo in the city where he spends his winters. He's holed up at his farm this winter because he doesn't want to get it.

My 88 year old grandma hasn't left the house and ate Christmas dinner over zoom.

Both are taking the vaccine as soon as it's available.

Old people don't invite death just because they're old.
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Originally Posted By jamesfrancis1
Here is a real source better than whatever conspiracy website bs you get your info from. 377,000 more deaths in 2020 in comparison to a normal year. No matter how much you train won't remove the fact you have a brain malfunction and will be forever be a delusional retard that falls for fake news.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...h-toll-us.html

"True Pandemic Toll in the U.S. Reaches 377,000"
That's shoddy work and pisspoor methodology. Beyond that these media articles always pretend like the US doesn't have the naturally increasing 40,000 deaths every succeeding year that it does. So they're automatically padding in 80-120K deaths depending on how far back they go to compare as "normal." And by now there are likely 100K or more lockdown related deaths. Extra murders and overdose deaths alone are up more than 20,000 over last year.
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Originally Posted By P51
dumb as fuk cuz. My childhood best friends mom died at 61 from it. She went to the gym everyday and had 0 underlying health issues. In fact the whole family got it and even her husband who is obese and has high blood pressure only had a cough. She went from hospital to dead in 48 hours. It effects everyone differently and not going to the bar can save a life.


Also youre ignoring there are 10m 65+ in the workforce still. Are you going to pay their paycheck?
When did she get sick and die? How did they treat her?
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