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post 1627045103 12-30-2020, 05:52 PM
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post 1627045183 12-30-2020, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
BTC dominating again.

Is there an exploitable pattern here? Do people just FOMO into Bitcoin and then exit on consolidation?
Yes there is. Bitcoin goes up, consolidates, then eth goes up, consolidates, then a first and second round of alts go up, then bitcoin pulls back with a 10-15% wick. Been growing my stack this way. This recent run up didn't pull back though but previous ones have pulled the same pattern.
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post 1627046583 12-30-2020, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Parkerscott⏩
Yes there is. Bitcoin goes up, consolidates, then eth goes up, consolidates, then a first and second round of alts go up, then bitcoin pulls back with a 10-15% wick. Been growing my stack this way. This recent run up didn't pull back though but previous ones have pulled the same pattern.
Ye I think ETH long has got to be an overall profitable play right now. Might run some paper simulations.
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post 1627067593 12-30-2020, 09:59 PM
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I wonder if alts will get a real run this season at all. BTC chart is crazy and probably due for a big correction already. Alts will bleed off even more. Ugh
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People have been calling for a pullback since like 14k lol. Every dip gets eaten alive the moment there is any sort of pullback.

Why the obsession with timing this perfectly as opposed to getting a large relative position and holding?
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post 1627069193 12-30-2020, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
I wonder if alts will get a real run this season at all. BTC chart is crazy and probably due for a big correction already. Alts will bleed off even more. Ugh
Last couple weeks every time any BTC sell off occurs during asia session, pre-US it starts getting bought up again for price continuation during US session. Biggest pullback we've gotten is ~15% since the 12k break, then those 10-15% retrace 'gems' are pretty quickly snapped up. Pretty deep buying trend is making me wonder if we're even close to one of BTC's signature 30-40% flash crashes, or whether this demand really is as giant as everyone seems to be talking up.
post 1627069903 12-30-2020, 10:33 PM
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I'm hearing that an alt season will likely occur in February - March, I think BTC will be hitting ath's every month of 2021
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There is a re-fill strategy WAP bids on Coinbase at the moment (from the price of $28.6k).

What this means is that there is a larger buyer (1000 BTC+) that puts in a 20-40 BTC buy wall and re-fills it when it gets eaten up. This way they hide their 1000 BTC+ purchase.

This is similar to the orderbook action during the Microstrategy bids. Very bullish. If it is Musk and he announces it, i expect 50k-100k BTC and ooph to be left in the dust (Michael Saylor has confirmed he has discussed buying strategies with Musk).
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Originally Posted By Serenadium⏩
There is a re-fill strategy WAP bids on Coinbase at the moment (from the price of $28.6k).

What this means is that there is a larger buyer (1000 BTC+) that puts in a 20-40 BTC buy wall and re-fills it when it gets eaten up. This way they hide their 1000 BTC+ purchase.

This is similar to the orderbook action during the Microstrategy bids. Very bullish. If it is Musk and he announces it, i expect 50k-100k BTC and ooph to be left in the dust (Michael Saylor has confirmed he has discussed buying strategies with Musk).
Sounds like a big institutional buyer? We know institutions are taking bigger positions.
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If Trump gets another 4 years, he may start a new "rainbow" currency with the faces of people such as Tesla and Teddy Roosevelt. Could be bad for BTC.
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Originally Posted By phillyfreak7⏩
People have been calling for a pullback since like 14k lol. Every dip gets eaten alive the moment there is any sort of pullback.

Why the obsession with timing this perfectly as opposed to getting a large relative position and holding?
Because that strategy will wreck your nerves
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Originally Posted By lordpatrick⏩
Because that strategy will wreck your nerves
It's what I did four years ago. Nerves intact.
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post 1627077843 12-31-2020, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Gorillajewshead⏩
I'm hearing that an alt season will likely occur in February - March, I think BTC will be hitting ath's every month of 2021
delusional. Here we have people talking about a new paradigm, just like in 2017.
Why would Musk be buying Bitocin, when he makes fun of it? Musk tweeted that bitcoin is almost as Bullchit as Fiat. Musk probably donยดt like bitcoin. He probably understands it is a pyramid scheme because thats what it is.
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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
It's what I did four years ago. Nerves intact.
I got my btcs in alt relatively low. Like 2 weeks ago, and my nerves are already rekt lol
post 1627078283 12-31-2020, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
delusional. Here we have people talking about a new paradigm, just like in 2017.
Why would Musk be buying Bitocin, when he makes fun of it? Musk tweeted that bitcoin is almost as Bullchit as Fiat. Musk probably donยดt like bitcoin. He probably understands it is a pyramid scheme because thats what it is.
Lol

That's why he puts BTC ATMs in the giga factory
That's why he made numerous positive tweets prior
That's why he had offline discussion with Saylor after that tweet regarding purchasing strategies.

In most cases autism should give people an unfair edge in crypto, unfortunately your inability to recognize a clear jestermaxxing tweet means you will suffer the worst of both worlds; you will remain a virgin and make no money.
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Originally Posted By Serenadium⏩
Lol

That's why he puts BTC ATMs in the giga factory
That's why he made numerous positive tweets prior
That's why he had offline discussion with Saylor after that tweet regarding purchasing strategies.

In most cases autism should give people an unfair edge in crypto, unfortunately your inability to recognize a clear jestermaxxing tweet means you will suffer the worst of both worlds; you will remain a virgin and make no money.
If he's going to buy, it won't be on coinbase though.
It will be OTC.
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Originally Posted By Serenadium⏩
Lol

That's why he puts BTC ATMs in the giga factory
That's why he made numerous positive tweets prior
That's why he had offline discussion with Saylor after that tweet regarding purchasing strategies.

In most cases autism should give people an unfair edge in crypto, unfortunately your inability to recognize a clear jestermaxxing tweet means you will suffer the worst of both worlds; you will remain a virgin and make no money.
I havenยดt seen proof of most of those statements you just made. Musk is making fun of btc and thinks doge is better it seems like. He called bitcoin bullchit
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Sounds like a big institutional buyer? We know institutions are taking bigger positions.
Centralizing btc coin distribution further which is long term bearish for the network. A few hundred people will own 90% of the citculating supply, thats pretty likely. Decentralized my ass
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majority of alts have the same dumping pattern. fud xrp news?
Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
delusional. Here we have people talking about a new paradigm, just like in 2017.
Why would Musk be buying Bitocin, when he makes fun of it? Musk tweeted that bitcoin is almost as Bullchit as Fiat. Musk probably donยดt like bitcoin. He probably understands it is a pyramid scheme because thats what it is.
great minds think alike brah. you and musk have that in common.
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Originally Posted By lordpatrick⏩
If he's going to buy, it won't be on coinbase though.
It will be OTC.
Coinbase's OTC desk (not to be confused with OTC deals) facilitated Microstrategy's $420m+ trade by buying spot:

"Coinbaseโ€™s Time Weighted Average Price (TWAP) algorithm will complete an order over a specified window of time, splitting the main order into many smaller orders that are then sent to different pools of liquidity, using the Smart Order Router to choose the best pool. In the example of the MicroStrategy execution, while the human traders input a few hundred orders, the algorithms converted that into close to 200,000 child fills, where the average fill size was less than 0.3 BTC."

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/...tcoin-purchase

You wouldn't chop up your order in to 200,000 child fills buying OTC (usually a couple mega deals or a single deal sourced from a supplier with large BTC pools).
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BAT is worse than XRP. I have lost almost everything i risked on BAT. Soon XRP and BAT will join WTC and compete to see which will lose more sats..



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Originally Posted By phillyfreak7⏩
Why the obsession with timing this perfectly as opposed to getting a large relative position and holding?
Remember Yahoo! Or BlackBerry, or GE?

Hell, look at xrp. Lots of hodlers there.

Most investments end upeventuallybeing plain dogchit.

Edit: just remembered crude oil lol. Silver is still cheaper than it was in 1980....

Gold is about the only thing that has survived hundreds of years.
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Originally Posted By BDSMBBW⏩
BAT is worse than XRP. I have lost almost everything i risked on BAT. Soon XRP and BAT will join WTC and compete to see which will lose more sats.
In its 4 year history, I don't think BAT has ever had a pump that wasn't contributed to a general bullmarket caused by BTC running up. Usually I don't care what people hold, because every token typically has their time in the sun when they run up 30% against BTC but i've never seen that with BAT. BAT seems good for two things:

1) accumulating in brave browser and then transferring to an exchange at the end of the year, where you can use the sheckles you've gained viewing ads to add to your position of another project.

2) doing what wellness2020 was saying a few pages back, and buying in when it dips into the teens (now), and then selling it off when it's mid to high 20's like it always does for a cheeky 8 to 12% profit. Strongest stable coin in the business.
Originally Posted By phillyfreak7⏩
People have been calling for a pullback since like 14k lol. Every dip gets eaten alive the moment there is any sort of pullback.

Why the obsession with timing this perfectly as opposed to getting a large relative position and holding?
Because that would make too much sense. You're addressing a group that will attempt to laugh at you if you secure profits and end up leaving 12% on the table.
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
In its 4 year history, I don't think BAT has ever had a pump that wasn't contributed to a general bullmarket caused by BTC running up. Usually I don't care what people hold, because every token typically has their time in the sun when they run up 30% against BTC but i've never seen that with BAT. BAT seems good for two things:

1) accumulating in brave browser and then transferring to an exchange at the end of the year, where you can use the sheckles you've gained viewing ads to add to your position of another project.

2) doing what wellness2020 was saying a few pages back, and buying in when it dips into the teens (now), and then selling it off when it's mid to high 20's like it always does for a cheeky 8 to 12% profit. Strongest stable coin in the business.
Regarding point 2, find it very hard to trade short term on alts..

BAT was actually a really really good pump and dump back in 2018 and 2019..After that it turned into like a stable coin which had lost all its value..

I am still being a retard and praying for an exit pump on XRP and bat.. crypto gods please one last big scam pump for alts..
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Originally Posted By BDSMBBW⏩
I am still being a retardand praying for an exit pump on XRP and bat.. crypto gods please one last big scam pump for alts..
lol but y tho?

XRP - I'm not even touching this right now. XRP has basically become BAT where it'll bleed to the teens, and pump to the low mid 20s. It's likely going to repeat that until a verdict with the SEC and thefirstcourt date isn't even until the end of February. Likely we don't even get a verdict till April and May. Couple that with the fact it'll be delisted/suspended on like 95% of exchanges starting in the middle of January. So even if you did want to buy/sell the dips it would be an absolute bitch trying to get out of the position. You'd have to start fuking with janky overseas exchanges, no thanks jeff. With no way of trading it after January, you have to ask yourself if you want to risk tying up that capital for at LEAST 4 months. That's years in crypto time.

IF I was a euro or asia brah, I would def accumulate xrp while it's cheap and wait for the SEC verdict and exchanges relist it because it'll certainly pop back up to .40 when it does. But there's no viable way to do this in the US with all the suspensions, so i'm out.

BAT - Last time it was above 30cents was september. As long as you weren't accumulating when it was above .35, again, I'd just cut bait on the next moderate pump to around .23 - .26 and look to get in a project that actually moves.
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC⏩
delusional. Here we have people talking about a new paradigm, just like in 2017.
Why would Musk be buying Bitocin, when he makes fun of it?Musk tweeted that bitcoin is almost as Bullchit as Fiat. Musk probably donยดt like bitcoin. He probably understands it is a pyramid scheme because thats what it is.
Lol, read that again. Heโ€™s saying that Bitcoin is better than fiat. Thatโ€™s the joke.
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Originally Posted By Serenadium⏩
There is a re-fill strategy WAP bids on Coinbase at the moment (from the price of $28.6k).

What this means is that there is a larger buyer (1000 BTC+) that puts in a 20-40 BTC buy wall and re-fills it when it gets eaten up. This way they hide their 1000 BTC+ purchase.

This is similar to the orderbook action during the Microstrategy bids. Very bullish. If it is Musk and he announces it, i expect 50k-100k BTC and ooph to be left in the dust (Michael Saylor has confirmed he has discussed buying strategies with Musk).
Musk isn't sitting there placing orders, nor did he shoe-horn an algo in a week to buy.

If he were buying, he'd have been hooked up with Saylor's team or whoever Saylor used and they are executing the action. Probably a mix of twap on spot exchagnes & dark OTC pools - some arbitrage of which hits futures markets depending on who is making those deals.
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
lol but y tho?

XRP - I'm not even touching this right now. XRP has basically become BAT where it'll bleed to the teens, and pump to the low mid 20s. It's likely going to repeat that until a verdict with the SEC and the first court date isn't even until the end of February. Likely we don't even get a verdict till April and May. Couple that with the fact it'll be delisted/suspended on like 95% of exchanges starting in the middle of January. So even if you did want to buy/sell the dips it would be an absolute bitch trying to get out of the position. You'd have to start fuking with janky overseas exchanges, no thanks jeff. With no way of trading it after January, you have to ask yourself if you want to risk tying up that capital for at LEAST 4 months. That's years in crypto time.

IF I was a euro or asia brah, I would def accumulate xrp while it's cheap and wait for the SEC verdict and exchanges relist it because it'll certainly pop back up to .40 when it does. But there's no viable way to do this in the US with all the suspensions, so i'm out.
To recover back 80% loss a coin must pump 400% - Since it has lost almost all the value , might as well ride it all the way down to zero. no use selling when its down 80%..should have cut losses when it was down like 10-20% fml..

Still hoping this xrp thing turns out Okay.. IDK how many of the other alts will also get into trouble if the final verdict goes against XRP.
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Truly considering selling all my btc and putting it all into ETH and ride it up... Or down... I'm seriously believing ETH is about to blow soon.
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Originally Posted By eternalone423⏩
Truly considering selling all my btc and putting it all into ETH and ride it up... Or down... I'm seriously believing ETH is about to blow soon.
Chart looks good.

Even chitty LTC is showing signs of coming to life. Will be a very, VERY interesting Q1 2021...
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Chart looks good.

Even chitty LTC is showing signs of coming to life. Will be a very, VERY interesting Q1 2021...
yes

ETH will have a much easier time hitting its previous ath than BTC going up to 35k and so forth. Easier and more logical gains to be had when ETH does a 2x or more compared to riding BTC as it climbs straight up in the air like it has been doing.
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