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post 1627185963 01-01-2021, 09:24 AM
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I agree op. Most miscers are fukkin stupid narcisissts, and I really dislike most people posting here. A few cool ones, but thats it
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I’d rather be like that than have a mental condition where I:

-have no sense of self worth and feel like I’m pointless in life
-feel invisible like I don’t even exist or matter
-have fake shallow friendships
-care about emotions that ultimately dont matter or have tangible meaning outside of logistics
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post 1627191663 01-01-2021, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted By proudmanlet
never noticed this, I don’t really focus on what other miscers are doing just on myself
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I've taken the MMPI and technically scored abnormally high on narcissism but I'm pretty sure all those assessments are bullsh*t.


This was 8 years ago though and I'm probably less narcissistic now compared to back then.
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This is the sort of (projection) thread a Narcissist would make.
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the women here are far more damaged psychologically lol
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Even non lifters have it i see it all the time lol

But lifting/fitness is a narcissistic hobby in itself
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Agree some of them are just edgelords.

But disagree a real sociopath doesn’t know it. They know they are different and they use normal people’s empathy as a weakness to exploit.
i think it makes sense it comes from depression. look up narcissism and depression. it's a way to counteract the depression. it makes sense to me: you dont feel special ---> so make up grandiosity in order to feel special. whereas if you're affirmed you're special, there's no real need to feel it, you're already there

but real life proposes some gaps where someone could make it up. as you said, it would be a problem if its near constant
They rarely, however, come in seeking treatment for their narcissism. "I've never heard anyone say, 'I think I'm a narcissistic personality,'" Huprich says.

That doesn't mean narcissists are oblivious to their trait. A 2011 study in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology —titled, with a wink, "You Probably Think This Paper's About You"—reported that narcissists did have insight into their personality: They described themselves as arrogant and knew that others saw them less positively than they saw themselves. But they generally didn't see this as a problem, and the debate continues over whether their grandiosity reflects an ironclad belief in their superiority or masks an underlying absence of self-confidence.
Applied more widely to narcissistic subtypes, the theory suggests that deep-seated insecurity about the self and an exceedingly fragile sense of self-esteem can lead to maladaptive thoughts and behavior. Extraverted narcissists exhibit grandiose attention-seeking. Vulnerable narcissists, meanwhile, simply succumb to their damaged self-image. "They're not able to keep a coherent sense of who they are, so when they are attacked, instead of fighting back, which is the first reaction of the grandiose narcissist, they have an immediate reaction of sadness and depletion and depression," Huprich says.
"There are personality traits we come into the world with," says Kali Trzesniewski, a social-development psychologist at the University of California, Davis. One's environment can either weaken or strengthen those traits, "though there are always people who don't seem to react to their environment; they're just kind of resilient to it."
High narcissism is not the same as high self-esteem. "They are typically only weakly related," says Brummelman, who has studied how parenting approaches can foster each. He and his colleagues found that when mothers and fathers are warm and affectionate, spending time with their kids and showing interest in their activities, "the children gradually internalize the belief that they are worthy individuals—the very core of self-esteem—and this doesn't spill over into narcissism," he says. By contrast, parental overvaluation—placing children on a pedestal—does promote narcissistic traits. To avoid raising narcissists, it's better for parents to say to children, "You did a good job," rather than, "You deserved to win" or "Why weren't you as good as she was?"
Culture matters as well: Lifetime rates of NPD are about four times higher in notoriously competitive New York when compared with Iowa
Her research shows that generations exposed to hardships, such as recessions, tend to end up less narcissistic than those that face fewer large-scale challenges. "Recessions seem to leave a humbling imprint on people who were young adults at the time," she says
However, many people with healthy levels of narcissism are wrongly labeled as narcissists when interpersonal tensions rise. "Whenever couples are in high conflict, they become more self-centered," Malkin says. "Rage makes narcissists of us all." And when we feel hurt or angry, we tend to focus on our own psychic needs and fail to show empathy towards others—both classic narcissistic behaviors.
One clue that a potential partner might be a narcissist: He or she claims to be "great at everything—except relationships," Malkin says. Narcissists might announce that they don't need anybody. They'll admit to preferring a trophy spouse to true love. And they're unable to do the fundamental repair work every relationship demands.
The impaired-empathy aspect of Narcissistic Personality Disorder can confuse those who haven't been trained to diagnose it. A complete lack of empathy would identify a psychopathic personality, but people high in narcissism, or with NPD, exhibit flashes of compassion. "The higher functioning narcissists have the capacity and ability to empathize," Huprich says, but ultimately their own needs come first. "The empathy is often shallow and short-lived. They'll acknowledge that someone else is suffering, but that will quickly dissipate so they can get back to their own self-promotion."
If a fragile self is the true underpinning of narcissism, one way to strengthen it is with self-compassion. A survey of more than 3,000 people showed that self-compassion led to more stable feelings of self-worth, as opposed to self-esteem, which has a stronger association with narcissistic traits.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
NPD have all that though. That is why they overcompensate with overblown ego. Because deep inside they feel worthless and they are incapable of genuine emotional connection.

If you are just talking about narcissistic traits in a normal person then yes I agree with you that some narcissism is healthy. As long as it’s balanced with a decent amount of empathy and morals and a capacity for genuine human connection.
Its just human development, the opposite of narcissist is a cuck.

If you're not a narcissist there is something wrong and underdeveloped with you.

Remember, only 20% of humans even have internal dialogue. Most people out there are mind numbingly stupid and devoid of ego or personality or anything and are like little pea brained mammals.

Narcissism is generally the side effects of a self aware person growing up and maturing.

The other ones who don't "suffer" from these existential traits are just too stupid.

of course they are smug in the absence of narccissitc traits because they are mindless cucks anyway.

they don't need to worry about having too big of an ego because they plain don't have one and have inferior brains.

they don't teach you this in the psych books though because its too raw of a truth. Most people are sheep.
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Originally Posted By ****liGirl
"a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others"
Sounds like most women in 2021
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Originally Posted By XPmpnII
Sounds like most women in 2021
Especially non-lifting ones who frequent a predominately male bodybuilding forum.
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peolpe who are are strongly pro trump or strongly hate libs usually are srs.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV
Its just human development, the opposite of narcissist is a cuck.

If you're not a narcissist there is something wrong and underdeveloped with you.

Remember, only 20% of humans even have internal dialogue. Most people out there are mind numbingly stupid and devoid of ego or personality or anything and are like little pea brained mammals.

Narcissism is generally the side effects of a self aware person growing up and maturing.

The other ones who don't "suffer" from these existential traits are just too stupid.

of course they are smug in the absence of narccissitc traits because they are mindless cucks anyway.

they don't need to worry about having too big of an ego because they plain don't have one and have inferior brains.

they don't teach you this in the psych books though because its too raw of a truth. Most people are sheep.
i think it's distinguished like this, but i agree this psych stuff gets a little gay:

a person can think they're smart - this is self-esteem

but what a narcissist does is he/she goes out of his way and does narcissist things - he/she craves the excessive need for admiration and grandiosity which is fueled by NOT being that. he/she doesn't feel smart so theyCRAVEit

so, again, someone can think and or say they're smart. but a narcissist is gonna go do big and grandiose things:

i am smart vs. i am the smartest person in the world
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
i think it's distinguished like this, but i agree this psych stuff gets a little gay:

a person can think they're smart - this is self-esteem

but what a narcissist does he goes out of his way and does narcissist things - he craves the excessive need for admiration and grandiosity which is fueled by NOT being that. he doesn't feel smart so heCRAVESit

so, again, someone can think and or say they're smart. but a narcissist is gonna go do big and grandiose things:

i am smart vs. i am the smartest person in the world
Its a higher IQ way of dealing with the fact that we are all gonna be dead in a while.

In the end we all are insecure by the metric, none of us have any reason to BE secure considering the meaninglessness of life.

At least theres a dramatic desperate grab for relevance and life and to fight somehow.

As opposed to being a cuck about it.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV
Its a higher IQ way of dealing with the fact that we are all gonna be dead in a while.

In the end we all are insecure by the metric, none of us have any reason to BE secure considering the meaninglessness of life.

At least theres a dramatic desperate grab for relevance and life and to fight somehow.

As opposed to being a cuck about it.
my last post about it. yea, there are some advantages to it

but if you notice most people prob wouldn't care if you said "you are smart" or at least it's less caustic

but people would prob find you annoying if you said "you are the smartest person in the world"

i think the focus is on that causticness and how it can disrupt relationships and cause turmoil - this need for excessive admiration and grandiosity
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
my last post about it. yea, there are some advantages to it

but if you notice most people prob wouldn't care if you said "you are smart" or at least it's less caustic

but people would prob find you annoying if you said "you are the smartest person in the world"

i think the focus is on that causticness and how it can disrupt relationships and cause turmoil - this need for excessive admiration and grandiosity
well its part of growing up.

children have needs too like food and shelter and love, should we not give into their needs to develop? because personally it would be a chore to do it.

Why tolerate anyone or anything that isn't a perfect cog?

Like who's the ahole I have to be careful not to be too much of an attention whore around, because its all about him and not feeling like someone else is too needy right?

Its all a crock of chit man.

One side vs the other in a tribal fight of life experiences and what they think the rules should be.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Especially non-lifting ones who frequent a predominately male bodybuilding forum.
I admit I didn't understand this one at first- why a person would "hang out" on a bodybuilding forum if they weren't seriously bodybuilding. I understand things a little better now.
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Most people get into lifting to overcompensate for insecurities

I know someone who is actually a diagnosed narcissist and what you’re actually referring to is cope for insecurities/low self esteem, life failures etc
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Originally Posted By ****liGirl
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no, youre just a dislikable person who trolls this american based forum with your ignorant commie ideas
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Originally Posted By 4ea
no, youre just a dislikable person who trolls this american based forum with your ignorant commie ideas
Can you list some characteristics of what a commie is?
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Originally Posted By roughinhouse
Can you list some characteristics of what a commie is?
bleak
souless
petty
corrupt
less than human
emotionally underdeveloped

The product of being a meaningless rat in a rat race.
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Originally Posted By ****liGirl
a lack of empathy for others"
That's the part I disagree with. Most Miscers here are total Bro's who even try to help hapless Incels.
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Originally Posted By BigTimeOperator
That's the part I disagree with. Most Miscers here are total Bro's who even try to help hapless Incels.
Empathy is such a misunderstood and misrepresented over-simplified complex notion
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Originally Posted By roughinhouse
Can you list some characteristics of what a commie is?
the context i was talking about is first world commie, meaning mindless sheep to the mainstream. eats up the trojan horse ideas being pushed by CNN, like calling straight white men racist because of the color of their skin. wanting free handouts, being anti gun, self identifying as a victim
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