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01-02-2021, 04:38 PM
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#2551
Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
I'm irrational right now, I want my sats to recover a bit even if my overall $ is worse.Nah. That's a bubble burst signal, you don't want that
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01-02-2021, 05:09 PM
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Please sats come back to me. I remember feeling like this in 2017 and eventually it all felt ok with alts, but right now strong feelsbadman
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01-02-2021, 05:28 PM
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01-02-2021, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
no kidding, are we gonna see +2k or what lol considering what btc has doneeth $1500 when? go back to ath smh
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01-02-2021, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
eth $1500 when? go back to ath smh
Originally Posted By Oddball8945⏩
no kidding, are we gonna see +2k or what lol considering what btc has done
Originally Posted By meremortal⏩
I'm more leaning towards ETH since it's not at ATHs.
Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
Can you guys steelman ETH for me? Not fudding my own bags (I have in the order of ~$100,000 ETH) but it is becoming harder and harder to see the value prop.ATH for eth was 1200. We still aren't close.
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Polkadot XCMP + parachains will ship 2021 and Cosmos ICM + main hub is ready for use. Both will take market share from ETH ultimately given users will have no loyalty to the layer 1. Imagine you are using an exchange (uniswap) through a web browser; as an end-user, why would you care what it is running on?, as long as it works for you as intended it doesnt matter. One could even argue even the application layer doesn't retain a loyalty moat, someone can build a front-end that connects to it and the best UI/UX front-end actually retains a loyalty moat - this further obviates loyalty at the layer 1 level.
ETH's utility basis for value also incentivizes applications built on top to use competitors, ETH value appreciates from higher rent collected through transaction fees but that is passed on to the end user. Its a vicious cycle like our beautiful capital economy where the end users and sales migrate to the most cost effective.
Cosmos is particularly impressive with terra money and thorchain (rune) running on top. Terra money is actually seeing real adoption in Korea. Rune has positioned itself as the cross chain decentralised exchange of choice. It also suffers the fate of ETH in that rent extraction makes it less competitive.
01-02-2021, 07:22 PM
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#2556
Originally Posted By Serenadium⏩
Its simple: first mover advantage.Can you guys steelman ETH for me? Not fudding my own bags (I have in the order of ~$100,000 ETH) but it is becoming harder and harder to see the value prop.
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Polkadot XCMP + parachains will ship 2021 and Cosmos ICM + main hub is ready for use. Both will take market share from ETH ultimately given users will have no loyalty to the layer 1. Imagine you are using an exchange (uniswap) through a web browser; as an end-user, why would you care what it is running on?, as long as it works for you as intended it doesnt matter. One could even argue even the application layer doesn't retain a loyalty moat, someone can build a front-end that connects to it and the best UI/UX front-end actually retains a loyalty moat - this further obviates loyalty at the layer 1 level.
ETH's utility basis for value also incentivizes applications built on top to use competitors, ETH value appreciates from higher rent collected through transaction fees but that is passed on to the end user. Its a vicious cycle like our beautiful capital economy where the end users and sales migrate to the most cost effective.
Cosmos is particularly impressive with terra money and thorchain (rune) running on top. Terra money is actually seeing real adoption in Korea. Rune has positioned itself as the cross chain decentralised exchange of choice. It also suffers the fate of ETH in that rent extraction makes it less competitive.
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Polkadot XCMP + parachains will ship 2021 and Cosmos ICM + main hub is ready for use. Both will take market share from ETH ultimately given users will have no loyalty to the layer 1. Imagine you are using an exchange (uniswap) through a web browser; as an end-user, why would you care what it is running on?, as long as it works for you as intended it doesnt matter. One could even argue even the application layer doesn't retain a loyalty moat, someone can build a front-end that connects to it and the best UI/UX front-end actually retains a loyalty moat - this further obviates loyalty at the layer 1 level.
ETH's utility basis for value also incentivizes applications built on top to use competitors, ETH value appreciates from higher rent collected through transaction fees but that is passed on to the end user. Its a vicious cycle like our beautiful capital economy where the end users and sales migrate to the most cost effective.
Cosmos is particularly impressive with terra money and thorchain (rune) running on top. Terra money is actually seeing real adoption in Korea. Rune has positioned itself as the cross chain decentralised exchange of choice. It also suffers the fate of ETH in that rent extraction makes it less competitive.
Theres plenty of coins over the years that were better than bitcoin yet that old piece of chit is still king. Why? Because first mover advantage
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01-02-2021, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted By juvefan⏩
Bitcoin has a different value proposition. Its a dominant non-sovereign store of value that competes with gold + foreign reserves with a bull case for monetary value.Its simple: first mover advantage.
Theres plenty of coins over the years that were better than bitcoin yet that old piece of chit is still king. Why? Because first mover advantage
Theres plenty of coins over the years that were better than bitcoin yet that old piece of chit is still king. Why? Because first mover advantage
Eth is more akin to a profit yield company with a utility basis for value where the first mover doesn't enjoy a significant advantage if any. Look at the failure in online market places compared to Amazon, look at the failures in search engines before google.
First mover advantage doesn't mean sqaut for layer 1 smart contract protocols. I'd also argue PoW is far better than PoS or the non-work related variants for a store of value. You want the guaranteed security of PoW where blocks are buried by energy + mining capital with immutable and predictable monetary policy over nascent staking based consensus that is vulnerable to future attacks + weak subjectivity.
01-02-2021, 07:28 PM
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01-02-2021, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By sdmk⏩
If it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen now.alt season when sirs?
01-02-2021, 10:02 PM
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01-02-2021, 10:11 PM
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01-02-2021, 10:27 PM
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01-02-2021, 10:39 PM
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01-02-2021, 10:39 PM
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We are about to hit 35k. This means grinners will have to take another 5% profit in how many days?
The lesson here is that in a parabolic run in a nascent emerging market that is just beginning to attain institutional adoption, this may severely reduce you unrealized gains.
The lesson here is that in a parabolic run in a nascent emerging market that is just beginning to attain institutional adoption, this may severely reduce you unrealized gains.
01-02-2021, 10:39 PM
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01-02-2021, 10:51 PM
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This is a bubble. This ain't it. Totally unhealthy price action.
01-02-2021, 10:53 PM
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01-02-2021, 11:11 PM
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01-02-2021, 11:11 PM
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#2569
Originally Posted By Serenadium⏩
Bitcoin is literally garbage ancient tech with a cult following. Store of value is literally a meme the community came up with to cope with how bad bitcoin actually is at doing whats its original purpose was, yet it was the first blockchain so thats why its still being โusedโ. Thereโs literally no other reason bitcoin is the biggest other than it was the first coin, most used for a while, and most famous.Bitcoin has a different value proposition. Its a dominant non-sovereign store of value that competes with gold + foreign reserves with a bull case for monetary value.
Eth is more akin to a profit yield company with a utility basis for value where the first mover doesn't enjoy a significant advantage if any. Look at the failure in online market places compared to Amazon, look at the failures in search engines before google.
First mover advantage doesn't mean sqaut for layer 1 smart contract protocols. I'd also argue PoW is far better than PoS or the non-work related variants for a store of value. You want the guaranteed security of PoW where blocks are buried by energy + mining capital with immutable and predictable monetary policy over nascent staking based consensus that is vulnerable to future attacks + weak subjectivity.
Eth is more akin to a profit yield company with a utility basis for value where the first mover doesn't enjoy a significant advantage if any. Look at the failure in online market places compared to Amazon, look at the failures in search engines before google.
First mover advantage doesn't mean sqaut for layer 1 smart contract protocols. I'd also argue PoW is far better than PoS or the non-work related variants for a store of value. You want the guaranteed security of PoW where blocks are buried by energy + mining capital with immutable and predictable monetary policy over nascent staking based consensus that is vulnerable to future attacks + weak subjectivity.
I can promise you with 100% satisfaction guarantee that Ethereum will have the same story in 10 years since it was the first smart contract blockchain, the most used smart contract blockchain by an enormous amount, and the most famous smart contract blockchain.
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01-02-2021, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Serenadium⏩
The problem is you understand this while normies don't. Accumulate cheap future tech and ride the ETH wave until this cycle is over.Can you guys steelman ETH for me? Not fudding my own bags (I have in the order of ~$100,000 ETH) but it is becoming harder and harder to see the value prop.
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Polkadot XCMP + parachains will ship 2021 and Cosmos ICM + main hub is ready for use. Both will take market share from ETH ultimately given users will have no loyalty to the layer 1. Imagine you are using an exchange (uniswap) through a web browser; as an end-user, why would you care what it is running on?, as long as it works for you as intended it doesnt matter. One could even argue even the application layer doesn't retain a loyalty moat, someone can build a front-end that connects to it and the best UI/UX front-end actually retains a loyalty moat - this further obviates loyalty at the layer 1 level.
ETH's utility basis for value also incentivizes applications built on top to use competitors, ETH value appreciates from higher rent collected through transaction fees but that is passed on to the end user. Its a vicious cycle like our beautiful capital economy where the end users and sales migrate to the most cost effective.
Cosmos is particularly impressive with terra money and thorchain (rune) running on top. Terra money is actually seeing real adoption in Korea. Rune has positioned itself as the cross chain decentralised exchange of choice. It also suffers the fate of ETH in that rent extraction makes it less competitive.
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Polkadot XCMP + parachains will ship 2021 and Cosmos ICM + main hub is ready for use. Both will take market share from ETH ultimately given users will have no loyalty to the layer 1. Imagine you are using an exchange (uniswap) through a web browser; as an end-user, why would you care what it is running on?, as long as it works for you as intended it doesnt matter. One could even argue even the application layer doesn't retain a loyalty moat, someone can build a front-end that connects to it and the best UI/UX front-end actually retains a loyalty moat - this further obviates loyalty at the layer 1 level.
ETH's utility basis for value also incentivizes applications built on top to use competitors, ETH value appreciates from higher rent collected through transaction fees but that is passed on to the end user. Its a vicious cycle like our beautiful capital economy where the end users and sales migrate to the most cost effective.
Cosmos is particularly impressive with terra money and thorchain (rune) running on top. Terra money is actually seeing real adoption in Korea. Rune has positioned itself as the cross chain decentralised exchange of choice. It also suffers the fate of ETH in that rent extraction makes it less competitive.
01-02-2021, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted By BDSMBBW⏩
I just can't see 40k being the top of this cycle. Unless the cycles are shortening due to some new factor. We should be going closer to 6 figs. Bull market until summer 2021.rsi can stay above 90 forever..doesnt really mean much
01-02-2021, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted By entropy91⏩
Yea ETH isn't a keeper. I'll hold it as long as people irrationally allocate into it on the basis btc is too expensive.The problem is you understand this while normies don't. Accumulate cheap future tech and ride the ETH wave until this cycle is over.
The top will be when an alternate cross chain protocol starts seeing high adoption. Compound's plan to migrate off ethereum onto its own chain is an ominous sign. That's probs when I seriously think of exiting.
01-02-2021, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted By entropy91⏩
its very hard to predict where price will top or in general its very hard to predict longer term price movement.I just can't see 40k being the top of this cycle. Unless the cycles are shortening due to some new factor. We should be going closer to 6 figs. Bull market until summer 2021.
for growth stocks like tesla or amazon, i feel holding outperforms.. I am unsure what will happen with btc..
charts do look like its the start of another bull run.. we will see, hope fully no bad fundamental news comes out.
01-02-2021, 11:52 PM
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How can this price action be sustainable? 1k a day? gtfo.
That being said I can't seem to sell very much.
That being said I can't seem to sell very much.
01-03-2021, 12:29 AM
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01-03-2021, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Icanlift⏩
Normally I would say wait, but what are we actually seeing right now? Are we seeing institutions and big money cats taking all the bitcoin away from all of us normies? It kind of feels like it.Me still waiting to buy the next Bitcoin dip but it just keeps going up

What do brahs, buy it out or wait?
What do brahs, buy it out or wait?
01-03-2021, 12:35 AM
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01-03-2021, 12:40 AM
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#2578
This is... unhealthy
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01-03-2021, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
It's a bubble man, gotta be a 30-40% correction soon, maybe even worse. People are gonna be crying and bloody after this. This wasn't supposed to be another f*cking bubble. Crypto is screwed.This is... unhealthy
01-03-2021, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
People were saying that at levels of 25k, 30k and now we are approaching 35kIt's a bubble man, gotta be a 30-40% correction soon, maybe even worse. People are gonna be crying and bloody after this. This wasn't supposed to be another f*cking bubble. Crypto is screwed.
It can burst sure, but it can just go up to 50k just as easily without any sign of slowing down
Waiting on a dip is generally advisable, but id say what we are seeing can be just the start of this already outrageous run, it can go either way at this stage but right now it seems unstoppable
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