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Thread: A lot of disinformation on covid on here

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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
wincel getting massacred in his own thread I hope he gets another mental breakdown and a mod finishes him off once and for all.
We shouldn't make fun of mental issues...

Regardless whose it is, yours or wincel's.
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Here is a video on the detailed structure of covid.

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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
You are naively taking a population death rate and then attempting to predict an expected death count without accounting for variance, obtaining results different from what you observed and then crying. You were also completely wrong about the number of deaths. I don't have the patience to sit here and teach biostatistics to you. If you think an error was made, publish your correction. Best of luck and fist yourself.
You are just upset you're getting your buttcheeks clapped right now. Not once did I say there were no COVID related deathsin the Modernastudy, that's factually incorrect and dishonest on your part.

I did account for variance using the data presented by thePFIZER study, used the data available, and generated a probability. I don't think you realize you're argument, the study wasn't reflective of the population!


84%chance of having least 1 death

WINCEL hates science ROFL
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Originally Posted By StyleGent⏩
You are just upset you're getting your buttcheeks clapped right now. Not once did I say there were no COVID related deathsin the Modernastudy, that's factually incorrect and dishonest on your part.

I did account for variance using the data presented by thePFIZER study, used the data available, and generated a probability. I don't think you realize you're argument, the study wasn't reflective of the population!


84%chance of having least 1 death

WINCEL hates science ROFL
I told you I'm not entertaining you further. If you think you have novel research that invalidates the study, publish it. I'm not going to sit here and waste my efforts trying to teach you statistics.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
So I thought I'd help you fukers out.

Here is an excellent introductory course on COVID-19.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...jjO2YFu9G8Iv-U

This is an MIT open course and has been constructed to inform the scientifically curious about covid. It does not require much in the way of prerequisites aside from some basic introductory biology. I strongly suggest you all watch this.

If you are curious for more technical details about biology, I recommend downloading "Molecular Biology of the Cell" by Alberts et al, and Janeway's "Immunobiology".
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
This is meant to be an informative thread. I will not engage in political debate with anyone here.
Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
None of this is about the virus. This describes ancient oversimplified epidemic math failing to account for virtually any social logistics of humans and a vaccine mechanism.

The truth is, this virus affects people a small degree worse than typical cold viruses, and the reaction is a total scam plenty of morons fall for.
this
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
While 90% of you are idiots beyond saving, I have received some positive feedback for this thread. As long as a few people found this helpful, it was worth doing. For the rest of you, fuk yourselves.
I will probably find the videos you posted helpful and supplemental to my medical education but I still find you kind of retarded. first, i recall an argument you an I had where your best position was "i know math therefore you are wrong".

As typically seen with actual incels, you are very arrogant and are therefore susceptible to premature conclusions. Here allow me to display this arrogance with one of your comments:
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
If you watch the videos, you will see the range of treatment options.The vaccine doesn't have questionable side effects.
In the past 20 years, how many medical interventions that were FDA approved and considered to be the "fronteir" of medicine, recently found to be either ineffective or harmful?

Now, do you think that this vaccine could be another one of these examples? Why or why not?

your conclusions are purely arrogance.

The medical field is plagued with this arrogance and has resulted in so many poor and downright harmful interventions being sold as "science". I see it all of the time in the hospital

Here is an article displaying this arrogance in the oncology world.https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...pe-vs-reality/
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Here is a video on the detailed structure of covid.

PCR test is a bacteria test. Do you understand that? the test does absolutely not tell if someone has a virus, or if someone is ill! Mullis is on record (video) stating this.
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Originally Posted By drFEEL⏩
this

I will probably find the videos you posted helpful and supplemental to my medical education but I still find you kind of retarded. first, i recall an argument you an I had where your best position was "i know math therefore you are wrong".

As typically seen with actual incels, you are very arrogant and are therefore susceptible to premature conclusions. Here allow me to display this arrogance with one of your comments:


In the past 20 years, how many medical interventions that were FDA approved and considered to be the "fronteir" of medicine, recently found to be either ineffective or harmful?

Now, do you think that this vaccine could be another one of these examples? Why or why not?

your conclusions are purely arrogance.

The medical field is plagued with this arrogance and has resulted in so many poor and downright harmful interventions being sold as "science". I see it all of the time in the hospital

Here is an article displaying this arrogance in the oncology world.https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...pe-vs-reality/
It's not arrogance. The vaccine is safe. Seriously.
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wincel is denying science what a horrible person.
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Originally Posted By Paul
PCR test is a bacteria test. Do you understand that? the test does absolutely not tell if someone has a virus, or if someone is ill! Mullis is on record (video) stating this.
If you dispute the validity of scientific results, I suggest you contact the primary authors or publish your rebuttal.

BTW Mullis was completely wrong about HIV not causing AIDS. Probably not the best guy to join sides with. Good luck with your publication!
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
If you dispute the validity of scientific results, I suggest you contact the primary authors or publish your rebuttal.

BTW Mullis was completely wrong about HIV not causing AIDS. Probably not the best guy to join sides with. Good luck with your publication!
Do you know who created the PCR test?
Just LMAO.
we as humans have viruses in us already and if you take a person's genetic material and test it with PCR by amplifying it over and over, you are bound to find what you are looking for such as SARS COV 2. Which explains why so many people are asymptomatic because theres simply not enough of the virus in you for you to be affected by it, but because they find a trace of the virus, they say you have covid.

Mullis created the PCR test you dumbchit
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Originally Posted By Paul
Do you know who created the PCR test?
Just LMAO.
we as humans have viruses in us already and if you take a person's genetic material and test it with PCR by amplifying it over and over, you are bound to find what you are looking for such as SARS COV 2. Which explains why so many people are asymptomatic because theres simply not enough of the virus in you for you to be affected by it, but because they find a trace of the virus, they say you have covid.
Interesting hypothesis. Go ahead and form a study and publish your findings on this.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I told you I'm not entertaining you further. If you think you have novel research that invalidates the study, publish it. I'm not going to sit here and waste my efforts trying to teach you statistics.
Na, I publish in areas of interest.

You just salty someone based you with statistics

WINCEL hates science ROFL
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Interesting hypothesis. Go ahead and form a study and publish your findings on this.
Good thing the creator of the test already did that for us.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmZft4fXhQQ

Wanna try for round 2?
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Here is the CDC site collecting epidemiological data on covid.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ilytrendscases
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Originally Posted By Paul
Good thing the creator of the test already did that for us.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmZft4fXhQQ

Wanna try for round 2?
That video was shot in the 90's. There has been no published correction to any of the covid studies by Mullis. This is, in fact, because Mullis has been dead for quite some time now.

I'm not interested in a debate with you. As I said, this thread is meant to be informative. If you have novel scientific research, feel free to submit it to an esteemed journal. I am sure the referees will be thrilled by your work.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Here is the CDC site collecting epidemiological data on covid.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ilytrendscases
Thanks that's what I used for my based statistics

with 84% certainty, I can say there would be at least 1 death in the PFIZER study

WINCEL hates science ROFL
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Originally Posted By StyleGent⏩
Thanks that's what I used for my based statistics

with 84% certainty, I can say there would be at least 1 death in the PFIZER study

WINCEL hates science ROFL
That's not how statistics works but keep thinking that. Feel free to publish your analysis. I am sure the referees will be thrilled.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
That video was shot in the 90's. There has been no published correction to any of the covid studies by Mullis. This is, in fact, because Mullis has been dead for quite some time now.

I'm not interested in a debate with you. As I said, this thread is meant to be informative. If you have novel scientific research, feel free to submit it to an esteemed journal. I am sure the referees will be thrilled by your work.
You can’t be this retarded.. a virus in the 90’s would have the same testing processes of a virus today..the test did not change lol.

There are currently 36 known Coronavirus that have been present for 6 decades. It is an RNA virus, that means that each time someone gets sick & the virus goes through them, it morphs into a new subtype.
So they are either testing that an individual had CV 7 yrs ago (up to)
& now a possible anti-body or are they specifically isolating CoV-2, which is impossible to do, based on length of time it has been present as we know there are 30 sub strains of the virus, for we know the WuHan Virus was different from the strand in Italy, then again different in Iran, then morphed again in New York, & CA.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
It's not arrogance. The vaccine is safe. Seriously.
It probably is but your arrogance does not even acknowledge the fact that it very well could not be safe or at very least oversold/ineffective. Its like the thought never even crosses your mind and you ignore the history of medicine. I wonder why?
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Here is the CDC site collecting epidemiological data on covid.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ilytrendscases
Just curious, have you read what the CDC considers "a covid 19 case" and "a covid 19 death"?

case = includes unconfirmed cases
death = deaths with covid are grouped in the same category as deaths from covid

also, did you know that official death stats do not get published until approximately a year later? Official cause of death counts from 2019 are not even available yet last I checked. Only 2018.

The official truth about all of this will only come out once everyone forgets about covid.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
That's not how statistics works but keep thinking that. Feel free to publish your analysis. I am sure the referees will be thrilled.
sure it is! let me ask what did your p(0) for the pfizer study come out to?

WINCEL hates science, ROFL

or you just going to keep hitting us with the, publish your results then! baseless attack
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Originally Posted By drFEEL⏩
It probably is but your arrogance does not even acknowledge the fact that it very well could not be safe or at very least oversold/ineffective. Its like the thought never even crosses your mind and you ignore the history of medicine. I wonder why?



Just curious, have you read what the CDC considers "a covid 19 case" and "a covid 19 death"?

case = includes unconfirmed cases
death = deaths with covid are grouped in the same category as deaths from covid

also, did you know that official death stats do not get published until approximately a year later? Official cause of death counts from 2019 are not even available yet last I checked. Only 2018.

The official truth about all of this will only come out once everyone forgets about covid.
If you dispute the safety of the vaccine or the accuracy of the data, I suggest you contact the FDA and the CDC, respectively. I am sure they will be happy to address your concerns. Best of luck!
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Originally Posted By Paul
You can’t be this retarded.. a virus in the 90’s would have the same testing processes of a virus today..the test did not change lol.

There are currently 36 known Coronavirus that have been present for 6 decades. It is an RNA virus, that means that each time someone gets sick & the virus goes through them, it morphs into a new subtype.
So they are either testing that an individual had CV 7 yrs ago (up to)
& now a possible anti-body or are they specifically isolating CoV-2, which is impossible to do, based on length of time it has been present as we know there are 30 sub strains of the virus, for we know the WuHan Virus was different from the strand in Italy, then again different in Iran, then morphed again in New York, & CA.
I'm not interested in a debate with you. As I said, this thread is meant to be informative. If you have novel scientific research, feel free to submit it to an esteemed journal. I am sure the referees will be thrilled by your work.
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Here is the JHU coronavirus resource center with helpful information about covid.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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Thank you for this thread OP. My family is a bunch of republitards who don't believe in science and are afraid of taking the vaccine because of potential "unknown long term effects" -- LMAO stupid hicks. Anyways, I believe in science and know you do to OP so any chance you can point me to some empirical data on studies done on the effects of the vaccine on test subjects 1+ years after administration?

I want to shut my stupid republitard family up and this would be very helpful. Thanks!
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
Thank you for this thread OP. My family is a bunch of republitards who don't believe in science and are afraid of taking the vaccine because of potential "unknown long term effects" -- LMAO stupid hicks. Anyways, I believe in science and know you do to OP so any chance you can point me to some empirical data on studies done on the effects of the vaccine on test subjects 1+ after administration?

I want to shut my stupid republitard family up and this would be very helpful. Thanks!
don't ask wincel he hates science and denies it.
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Here is the probability of being at least 1 COVID related deaths in the PFIZER study

84%
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
Thank you for this thread OP. My family is a bunch of republitards who don't believe in science and are afraid of taking the vaccine because of potential "unknown long term effects" -- LMAO stupid hicks. Anyways, I believe in science and know you do to OP so any chance you can point me to some empirical data on studies done on the effects of the vaccine on test subjects 1+ years after administration?

I want to shut my stupid republitard family up and this would be very helpful. Thanks!
Can you show me empirical data that gravity will make things fall down a year from now? No? Hmm...it's almost as if having a sound theoretical basis based on current empirical evidence and predictive models might suffice, you sarcastic piece of dogchit. There is no reason for this vaccine to be any more harmful than the virus itself, first of all. Second of all, we understand the nature of this vaccine very well. There is not going to be any long term issue. The vaccine literally just codes for the spike protein.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
don't ask wincel he hates science and denies it.
WINCEL hates science ROFL
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
If you dispute the safety of the vaccine or the accuracy of the data, I suggest you contact the FDA and the CDC, respectively. I am sure they will be happy to address your concerns. Best of luck!
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