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01-03-2021, 12:29 PM
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Did you just link Youtube videos as factual information
Winny did you even go to college or have you been "internet taught" rotting in your childhood bedroom all this time
Winny did you even go to college or have you been "internet taught" rotting in your childhood bedroom all this time
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01-03-2021, 12:29 PM
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01-03-2021, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
Those videos were all created by university faculty and many are actual university lectures, including some nobel laureates. The first series I linked was from MIT.Did you just link Youtube videos as factual information
Winny did you even go to college or have you been "internet taught" rotting in your childhood bedroom all this time
Winny did you even go to college or have you been "internet taught" rotting in your childhood bedroom all this time
01-03-2021, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Thanks. Think I contributed the most by linking the actual creator of the PCR test & his own words of what the test was meant for. You continue to deny the facts thoughI'm not interested in a debate with you. As I said, this thread is meant to be informative. If you have novel scientific research, feel free to submit it to an esteemed journal. I am sure the referees will be thrilled by your work.
01-03-2021, 12:31 PM
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01-03-2021, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By StyleGent⏩
What are the chances your license plate is what it is? And is it what it is?In case you all have missed it.
There is only a 16% chance that the PFIZER study would obtain the results they did (0 covid related deaths)
WINCEL hates science, ROFL
There is only a 16% chance that the PFIZER study would obtain the results they did (0 covid related deaths)
WINCEL hates science, ROFL
Hmm.
01-03-2021, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
TLDW. But does your chit talk about how COVID still hasn't ever been isolated according to Koch's postulate?So I thought I'd help you fukers out.
Here is an excellent introductory course on COVID-19.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...jjO2YFu9G8Iv-U
This is an MIT open course and has been constructed to inform the scientifically curious about covid. It does not require much in the way of prerequisites aside from some basic introductory biology. I strongly suggest you all watch this.
If you are curious for more technical details about biology, I recommend downloading "Molecular Biology of the Cell" by Alberts et al, and Janeway's "Immunobiology".
Here is an excellent introductory course on COVID-19.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...jjO2YFu9G8Iv-U
This is an MIT open course and has been constructed to inform the scientifically curious about covid. It does not require much in the way of prerequisites aside from some basic introductory biology. I strongly suggest you all watch this.
If you are curious for more technical details about biology, I recommend downloading "Molecular Biology of the Cell" by Alberts et al, and Janeway's "Immunobiology".
01-03-2021, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
As I said, I'm not interested in a debate with you. As I said, this thread is meant to be informative. If you have novel scientific research, feel free to submit it to an esteemed journal. I am sure the referees will be thrilled by your work.Thanks. Think I contributed the most by linking the actual creator of the PCR test & his own words of what the test was meant for. You continue to deny the facts though
01-03-2021, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Conspirabrah⏩
https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2...bit-holes.htmlTLDW. But does your chit talk about how COVID still hasn't ever been isolated according to Koch's postulate?
In other words, viruses can’t be grown in pure culture as described by Koch’s postulates because they need a cell to grow in. Does that mean viruses don’t cause disease? No.
01-03-2021, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
OkayAs I said, I'm not interested in a debate with you. As I said, this thread is meant to be informative. If you have novel scientific research, feel free to submit it to an esteemed journal. I am sure the referees will be thrilled by your work.
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
“We aimed to develop and deploy robust diagnostic methodology for use in public health laboratory settings without having virus material available.”
TRANSLATION: We want to develop a test to detect the new COVID virus without having the virus.
01-03-2021, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Great link! This link details the process of PCR diagnostic testing.
01-03-2021, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
And look how they did that lolGreat link! This link details the process of PCR diagnostic testing.
01-03-2021, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
no, you are presenting your "beliefs" and saying everyone who doesn't believe them without question are stupid. You are ignoring any other possibility.I mean I can't do anything about it. You'll have to talk to them if you want to make a correction. I'm just presenting the information here.
It is all too prevalent in the medical world and the "intellectually elite".
I just love calling out illogical/irrational thinking patterns of those who consider themselves above others.
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01-03-2021, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By drFEEL⏩
No. I'm presenting peer reviewed scientific research and useful resources. Again, if you dispute that their work is valid, you can publish your findings.no, you are presenting your "beliefs" and saying everyone who doesn't believe them without question are stupid. You are ignoring any other possibility.
It is all too prevalent in the medical world and the "intellectually elite".
I just love calling out illogical/irrational thinking patterns of those who consider themselves above others.
It is all too prevalent in the medical world and the "intellectually elite".
I just love calling out illogical/irrational thinking patterns of those who consider themselves above others.
The FDA has reviewed the studies and deemed the vaccine to be safe. There is good scientific evidence that is safe. There are good theoretical reasons to believe it is safe as well.
01-03-2021, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
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wincel, you're a fuking retard. No one takes you seriously, you fat welfare sponge. Flush yourself you piece of chit.
wincel, you're a fuking retard. No one takes you seriously, you fat welfare sponge. Flush yourself you piece of chit.
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01-03-2021, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
So you are telling me we have sound theoretical bases to believe it will be safe in the long-term and should trust in that theory, even though the theories are not backed up by any empirical data at all? So in other words, what you are describing isfaith, not science?Can you show me empirical data that gravity will make things fall down a year from now? No? Hmm...it's almost as if having a sound theoretical basis based on current empirical evidence and predictive models might suffice, you sarcastic piece of dogchit. There is no reason for this vaccine to be any more harmful than the virus itself, first of all. Second of all, we understand the nature of this vaccine very well. There is not going to be any long term issue. The vaccine literally just codes for the spike protein.
Now I really feel like an a$$, OP. I have been posting "#ibelieveinscience" and have been extremely condescending to my friends and family. But it turns out I am basically a dangerous dogmatic zealot and there is not any real difference between me and the "because god said so" crew?
brb going to reevaluate my life
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01-03-2021, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
We are just supposed to accept some random's opinion and stuff away our doubt. We are retarded and wincel is smart. Obey your overlords.lmao at this tard. total deaths are the same for 2020. they test dead bodies from heart attacks and cancer for covid and if it was positive call it a covid death. they use ultra sensative tests, they use a higher amplification cycle than neccesary to intentionally pump up the numbers. someone could get a positive on cycle 40, not even be contagious and for all intents and purposes have been done with covid, then drop dead of a heart attack and that is called a covid death.
You realize if we made a 40 amp cycle PCR test for the seasonal flu and tested every dead body for it, we could get 300k deaths a year from the flu, then if we talk about it on the media 24/7 we could cause the same mass hysteria.
these people play to the narcissistic personalities of people like you, they tell you if you trust in us and believe in us then you are smart, you eat that chit up. then you go online and do their dirty work for them and spread the propaganda. youre a useful idiot to them
You realize if we made a 40 amp cycle PCR test for the seasonal flu and tested every dead body for it, we could get 300k deaths a year from the flu, then if we talk about it on the media 24/7 we could cause the same mass hysteria.
these people play to the narcissistic personalities of people like you, they tell you if you trust in us and believe in us then you are smart, you eat that chit up. then you go online and do their dirty work for them and spread the propaganda. youre a useful idiot to them
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01-03-2021, 12:56 PM
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It was nice to know I already had a ton of virus fighting compounds in my cupboard of supplements like Vitamin D, Quercetin + zinc, resveratrol, and then there's NAC which helps prevent organ damage from inflammatory cytokines. I also have medicinal mushrooms like Turkey Tail and Chaga mushroom extracts, which are great for the immune system beyond just viral infections. Govt sending everyone Vitamin D and some magnesium to help absorption would've saved thousands of the old folks that have died prematurely, and stopped organ damage in many thousands more.
OP is a fear porn addict though. With zero medical background. Psst, it helps if you have a biochemistry or biology background. Also helps to look into things like how many deaths we'd have had absent Covid. Unfortunately media and even the CDC are looking back at previous years for comparison, even though we average 40,000 more deaths every succeeding year. Can't look back at 2018 or 2017 without adding in the extra 40K deaths we have to add in for each year since. But that's what they are doing. So when you hear 'excess death compared to previous year' remember we'd have 40,000 more each year since if Covid never existed. The deception is in the framing. Why are we comparing to 2015-2019 when the deaths were rising 40K each year and then pretending those 40K extra yearly deaths stopped when Covid hit? The question is "HOW MANY DEATHS IN 2020 WITHOUT COVID?" Period. 2.92 million. How many all cause mortality deaths? 3.12 -3.13 million. So 200-210 extra deaths more than without Covid. The American Medical Association said 3 months ago 75K of the extra deaths were not directly Covid related. All basic stats, all verifiable.
OP is a fear porn addict though. With zero medical background. Psst, it helps if you have a biochemistry or biology background. Also helps to look into things like how many deaths we'd have had absent Covid. Unfortunately media and even the CDC are looking back at previous years for comparison, even though we average 40,000 more deaths every succeeding year. Can't look back at 2018 or 2017 without adding in the extra 40K deaths we have to add in for each year since. But that's what they are doing. So when you hear 'excess death compared to previous year' remember we'd have 40,000 more each year since if Covid never existed. The deception is in the framing. Why are we comparing to 2015-2019 when the deaths were rising 40K each year and then pretending those 40K extra yearly deaths stopped when Covid hit? The question is "HOW MANY DEATHS IN 2020 WITHOUT COVID?" Period. 2.92 million. How many all cause mortality deaths? 3.12 -3.13 million. So 200-210 extra deaths more than without Covid. The American Medical Association said 3 months ago 75K of the extra deaths were not directly Covid related. All basic stats, all verifiable.
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01-03-2021, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
No. I'm saying the spike protein doesn't randomly cause cancer or any other "long term effects". Because it's just a piece of the spike protein. It's harmless.So you are telling me we have sound theoretical bases to believe it will be safe in the long-term and should trust in that theory, even though the theories are not backed up by any empirical data at all? So in other words, what you are describing isfaith, not science?
Now I really feel like an a$$, OP. I have been posting "#ibelieveinscience" and have been extremely condescending to my friends and family. But it turns out I am basically a dangerous dogmatic zealot and there is not any real difference between me and the "because god said so" crew?
brb going to reevaluate my life
Now I really feel like an a$$, OP. I have been posting "#ibelieveinscience" and have been extremely condescending to my friends and family. But it turns out I am basically a dangerous dogmatic zealot and there is not any real difference between me and the "because god said so" crew?
brb going to reevaluate my life
01-03-2021, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Hmm. Well it just so happens I DO have a molecular biology background. I actually did very well in biochemistry. It does help, buddy.It was nice to know I already had a ton of virus fighting compounds in my cupboard of supplements like Vitamin D, Quercetin + zinc, resveratrol, and then there's NAC which helps prevent organ damage from inflammatory cytokines. I also have medicinal mushrooms like Turkey Tail and Chaga mushroom extracts, which are great for the immune system beyond just viral infections. Govt sending everyone Vitamin D and some magnesium to help absorption would've saved thousands of the old folks that have died prematurely, and stopped organ damage in many thousands more.
OP is a fear porn addict though. With zero medical background. Psst, it helps if you have a biochemistry or biology background. Also helps to look into things like how many deaths we'd have had absent Covid. Unfortunately media and even the CDC are looking back at previous years for comparison, even though we average 40,000 more deaths every succeeding year. Can't look back at 2018 or 2017 without adding in the extra 40K deaths we have to add in for each year since. But that's what they are doing. So when you hear 'excess death compared to previous year' remember we'd have 40,000 more each year since if Covid never existed. The deception is in the framing. Why are we comparing to 2015-2019 when the deaths were rising 40K each year and then using then pretending those 40K extra yearly deaths stopped when Covid hit? The question is "HOW MANY DEATHS IN 2020 WITHOUT COVID?" Period. 2.92 million. How many all cause mortality deaths? 3.12 -3.13 million. So 200-210 extra deaths more than without Covid. The American Medical Association said 3 months ago 75K of the extra deaths were not directly Covid related. All basic stats, all verifiable.
OP is a fear porn addict though. With zero medical background. Psst, it helps if you have a biochemistry or biology background. Also helps to look into things like how many deaths we'd have had absent Covid. Unfortunately media and even the CDC are looking back at previous years for comparison, even though we average 40,000 more deaths every succeeding year. Can't look back at 2018 or 2017 without adding in the extra 40K deaths we have to add in for each year since. But that's what they are doing. So when you hear 'excess death compared to previous year' remember we'd have 40,000 more each year since if Covid never existed. The deception is in the framing. Why are we comparing to 2015-2019 when the deaths were rising 40K each year and then using then pretending those 40K extra yearly deaths stopped when Covid hit? The question is "HOW MANY DEATHS IN 2020 WITHOUT COVID?" Period. 2.92 million. How many all cause mortality deaths? 3.12 -3.13 million. So 200-210 extra deaths more than without Covid. The American Medical Association said 3 months ago 75K of the extra deaths were not directly Covid related. All basic stats, all verifiable.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Publish your findings!!!!No. I'm presenting peer reviewed scientific research and useful resources. Again, if you dispute that their work is valid, you can publish your findings.
The FDA has reviewed the studies and deemed the vaccine to be safe. There is good scientific evidence that is safe. There are good theoretical reasons to believe it is safe as well.
The FDA has reviewed the studies and deemed the vaccine to be safe. There is good scientific evidence that is safe. There are good theoretical reasons to believe it is safe as well.
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WINCEL hates science ROFL
01-03-2021, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By StyleGent⏩
I did well in statistics. I also have a rigorous understanding of probability and measure theory. Anyway, this thread isn't about me and none of this is my opinion. I have posted credible sources. If you dispute the science, feel free to take it up with them. Thanks.Just not statistics obviously
01-03-2021, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By StyleGent⏩
I mean if your independent research is valid, you should have no trouble getting it published. I am sure everyone will be excited to see your result and your correction could prove valuable for humanity. So please submit your paper, and do post the reply for us all to read here. I eagerly await the result. Best of luck!Publish your findings!!!!
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WINCEL hates science ROFL
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WINCEL hates science ROFL
01-03-2021, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Yet your inability to understand that Corona is the common cold is still prevalentHmm. Well it just so happens I DO have a molecular biology background. I actually did very well in biochemistry. It does help, buddy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK7782/
01-03-2021, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Hey man cool resource and go fuk yourself!Yet your inability to understand that Corona is the common cold is still prevalent
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK7782/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK7782/
This thread is about covid 19 specifically. Thanks.
01-03-2021, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
understanding, just not application. Got it thanksI did well in statistics. I also have a rigorous understanding of probability and measure theory. Anyway, this thread isn't about me and none of this is my opinion. I have posted credible sources. If you dispute the science, feel free to take it up with them. Thanks.
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