Noone cares what you post OP

(((Coronavirus))) is the 2nd biggest hoax in history. Can you guess what the first one is? Hint - they both involve disinformation and massively inflating numbers, and they both benefit a certain group of people.

Funny how you covidiots criticize actual reputable sources as disinformation but u link twitter, Russian propaganda sites, and bitchute.

Some really useful and informative links, thanks OP.

At least the mouth breathing retards on this thread stand little chance of procreating and spreading their retardness to the next generation lol

Why are you kunts giving an unemployed loser who lives in his dad's basement attention

thx bruh

Spare us your bullchit, nobody wants to be part of your cult OP.

I personally know 9 people who have had it.....including my wife....ranging in age from 22-64. I've heard, through extended family, of 2 who've died from it....they were both in their late 70's and apparently 1 of them was already in rough shape.

Other than being told not to leave the house for 10-14 days, they were all completely fine in 3-4 days, most of them just ended up doing stuff around the house.

-Headache
-Fatigue
-Loss of taste and smell

That's it. My wife had 2 days where she couldn't taste anything and another day where she pretty much just slept all day. Other than that she was normal. Most of the people I've known with it, didn't even know they had it until they got to the "I cant taste or smell" part and went and got tested. Up until that point they all have said the same thing, I felt fine but was maybe a little more tired and had a slight headache but nothing really to even think about.

I also work from home and was here the whole time my wife had it, slept in the same bed, sat on the same couch and I didn't get it....didn't wear a mask.
I also also, sat in the truck with a guy who had it (unknowingly at the time) for 35 minutes on the way to a small wedding where 4 people there got it, one of which I sat next to at the table for most of the night and I didn't get it...no masks there either.

Yeah most aren't going to die. That's obvious. But you did hear of 2 deaths. Some will die. That's the entire issue here is about 350k ppl have died.

If we let the virus spread without restrictions, a large number of people will die all at once and it will lead to excess preventable deaths becuse our healthcare system will be overrun.

This has been explained. Thousands of times.

Lol at the irony.

The progressive, leftist retards who buy into this covid nonsense the most also reproduce the least. Especially as even if they could get laid they would refrain because their public health idols have told them not to.

Wincel, who is an atheist virgin as most likely are you, will have infinitely fewer children (none) than a fundamentalist or traditionalist of any sort, who tend have the most children of anyone.

B-but muh Darwin awards, muh evolution.

I mean. There are ways for people like me to have kids with your women. There are also ways for people like me to ensure that people like you don't have kids. We have the technology. I actually believe we should induce such selection pressures, but that's a topic for another thread and perhaps left not elaborated on, friendo.

Fat old people with pre existing conditions died. Shut it down!!

If enough of them die, you won't be able to save young people in car accidents, cancer patients, or OD victims, etc.

Aa far as policy, I actually am rather fond of just letting the boomers (especially those in red states) kick the bucket. But that's an issue worth discussing in another thread.

Send in the robot legions of Science!TMto sieze all the womonz for the glory of the bugmen race!

^Re: virus.

I know plenty of people who have gotten it. My SO, who is a pretty healthy person and is younger than me, was practically stuck in bed for two weeks.

Her grandfather got it and was hospitalized. Dude's a tough mfer and got shot in the leg while being robbed. No health problems. He survived this too.

A mutual friend of my SO and I lost both his father and grandfather to the virus. His mother too. However you swing it, that's incredibly unfortunate.

One thing that kind of bothers me about the crowd who downplays the virus is such that they talked all this chit about how "false positives, people re-testing, etc" contributed to the increase in cases... But then don't want to acknowledge how that also skews the ratio of deaths to cases.

Look, I'm all for you not taking the vaccine if you don't think it's worth it. I don't feel like you should be required to take it. If you don't think the virus is a legitimate threat to your well being, and that it's just the flu, that's fine. I've gotten the flu before and it sucked. I don't want to get it again, and I'm sure you don't either.

As young, healthy individuals, it's fair to go "I will likely survive" and that's most likely true.

It's when the discussion goes from "I will likely survive, I'm a healthy young individual who has decided not to vaccinate and am aware of how this decision may affect me" to conspiracy theories, that we have to address the elephant in the room.

And the elephant in the room is that there's a growing population of people who genuinely think that this is all the result of some secret cabal planning to take over the world... But zero of the theories hold up to scrutiny. Seriously, I've read through a decent amount of them and zero of them hold up or are congruent with each other. And still, miscers will present two opposing conspiracy theories as a congruent thought at times, without even acknowledging it.

In times of uncertainty, public interest in conspiracy theories increases.

Plus, it's even weirder to me that 90% of the people yammering about how the death percentage isn't even that high are also pro-lifers which is the most ironic thing in the world because these SAME people use arguments in the opposite context "All these liberals are talking about how 350K lives matter, but kill babies by the million!" Are you using this argument in favor of letting 350K people die? Because it's like, that's not a pro life argument at all.

And it's like, look, zero of these thoughts are congruent anymore.

They've been brainwashed by propaganda and lies, and it started at the very top. If our dear leader had any shred of decency and intelligence, he would have taken this virus seriously, communicated what his advisors told him accurately to the public, and made recommendations to benefit the safety of Americans. But he didn't, and now it is a disaster. Half the misc would change their tune if Trump took a firm stance on the virus and told the truth about it.


Dr. Fauci brings up an excellent point that in the 40's, NYC had a small number of cases of smallpox emerge, and they were able to vaccinate 6 million people in a single week. Our country is absolutely capable of better than this. We can do better than this, and we should.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/18/n...x-vaccine.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/fauc...per-day-2021-1

"I was a six-year-old boy who was one of those who got vaccinated," Fauci said. "So if New York City can do 5 million in two weeks, the United States could do a million a day."

- then shutdown only in places where the healthcare system is expected to be overrun
- the cure should not be worse than the poison (which it currently is)

The CDC has already made such recommendations. The restriction guidelines are tied to case counts. It's just the recent surge nationally has meant very few places are close to meeting the guidelines. At one point in the summer, a lot of places looked like they were safe to reopen, but people got complacent and careless and here we are again.

The cure is most certainly not worse than the disease in this case. We will all see what bad looks like if measures aren't taken and if most of the country rejects the vaccine.

In 2018, there was a measles outbreak in the Hasidic community where I used to live that spread into NYC.

Measles is a third-world country disease. It's a disease we pretty much eliminated in the states many years ago. But there were entire communities who decided that they were not interested in taking the vaccine, which, again, that's fine by me.

If, individually, you aren't interested in vaccinating that's fine. However, when a large enough community who isn't interested in vaccinating appears... Chit like that happens.

Conspiracy theories aside, I don't think anyone can argue that the "response to the pandemic" is not politically motivated.

Yep. That's exactly where the conflict between liberty and public health emerges. Where do we draw the line? I think the majority have deemed requiring vaccines to go to school, etc as a reasonable middle ground between having the govt strap you down and stick you vs just letting everyone have total autonomy (and freely avoid the vaccine).

While people who hate Trump have milked this (rightly so, as this is his greatest failure in policy), this certainly is a public health disaster. It certainly should be taken seriously, and had Trump been the one to make the recommendations his advisors brought him, we'd have been in a much better situation right now. There will always be whiners and people angry about the situation. But it is the job of a leader to make the best policy to protect his people.

Trump's greatest flaw is he cares too much what people think of him to the point where he will do almost anything to be popular and loved.

This virus is actually not a partisan issue. It is killing Republicans and Democrats just the same. It's something that needs to be taken seriously.

So many words, so little substance.

Do you, or do you not agree that the current "response to the pandemic" is politically motivated?

Simple yes or no, wincel. Simple yes or no.

No. I think the media milked it a bit, but absolutely not. If you think the recommendations of our medical community are politically motivated, that's insane unless you consider trying to promote the public health of American citizens a political goal. People like Dr. Fauci and Birx tried their hardest to work with Trump to do right for the American people. They tried to keep the politics out of it as much as they could. They stood by as he and much of the GOP basically flouted their advice.

There are tons of people working in our medical community right now trying to help save lives. They take this very seriously. My brother is one of those people. And if you think this is all politics, you are sadly mistaken, and you will learn that soon enough as the death toll continues to mount and as cases continue to rise. This is a fuking plague and it needs to be treated that way. It has brought many countries to their knees, including countries that are not fans of the US or any Democrat agenda. To think this is all political is ridiculous when you realize it is a global crisis.

I mean, to live in society you may have to do some things you don't like.

So yeah, you're free to not take the vaccine but then also have to acknowledge that it may affect your life in other ways.I don't disagree completely. If that is the case, it's much more likely to be a result of the desire to make the inbound president appear to navigate the virus much better.

However, the current administration is not without their merited fault.

You had a standing president downplay the virus multiple times. Surely there can be fault reserved for how that impacted the response on both ends.

Troll thread confirmed. I expected more from you, wincel. You are certainly not as smart as you appear to be.

Or alternatively even if you do argue it's not politically motivated, that it's proportional to the severity of the virus.

i havent kept up closely with how things are in the US but do you you have any sources that say that very few places are not close to be overrun? i could see potential for the healthcare system in new york, for example, to be overrun, but i have a very hard time believing that this is the case for vast majority of cities in the US

Cases in Travis county have increased. But most things here are still open.

I don't think places should shut down indefinitely. This has gone on too long, IMO and I'm not about to watch small business go under while corporations get bailed out... Again.

They are. I mean I can try to find hospitalization data for a specific city if you want me to, but almost every major city in the US is seeing increased hospitalizations and cases. There's been a recent surge. Things were looking a bit better in the summer in some parts, but it's made a comeback and almost every major city is seeing issues now.

Should rural areas be as strict? Probably not. But the virus is so widespread now, and rural areas also often lack enough testing resources that it is hard to tease out which can be open and which need restrictions. This is another area where our medical community made recommendations for more testing, and their pleas were largely ignored. In fact, Trump and Scott Atlas decided less testing was preferred (mainly because the numbers were making Trump look bad for the election). It really boggles the mind how people can act like the recommendations are politically motivated, when it is the suppression of our medical community and the interference with medical science that is politically motivated.

All the information is there. The people who died are real. It's all real and available for everyone to read about and investigate. You can look. That's why I posted all these videos. So people can see this virus is real, it is causing damage, and people need to take it seriously. They should know the science behind it rather than what their favorite politican tells them. And I hope I have at least reassured some people about the safety of the vaccine.

I will remind you that most of our medical community, essential workers, military, etc are all taking this vaccine. Our leaders are taking the vaccine. Dr. Fauci has taken the vaccine. If it weren't safe, they wouldn't take it. Everything carries with it some degree of risk, but it's theoretically irrational for this vaccine to have any long term effects that the virus wouldn't, and it is also highly unlikely you will have an allergic reaction. It's safe for almost everyone. And given the circumstances, it is definitely recommended.