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01-04-2021, 11:04 AM
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our politicians seem so worried about covid despite all their tweets about staying home and saving lives and not getting together with family for the holidays!!!
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- ignore wincel. hes a fat white *******.
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01-04-2021, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
But that's the thing; suppressing it and/or acting like it isn't the solution or that the vaccine itself is a "conspiracy" like a lot of the brahs here are doing... Ignores the fact that the vaccine is literally the thing that could stand in the way of putting a stop to the situation or allowing it to progress and do further unrepairable damage. That, we can absolutely agree on--even it the vaccine isn't ready for that scale of distribution.Vaccination to the extent that is required for that to be true is a long way away.
By the time this entire situation is over and done with, the damage will be severe ( heck it already is ), and we will see if it can be recovered from.
There are very few governments around the world that have treated the situation properly - most have been content with padding the pockets of those who control them.
By the time this entire situation is over and done with, the damage will be severe ( heck it already is ), and we will see if it can be recovered from.
There are very few governments around the world that have treated the situation properly - most have been content with padding the pockets of those who control them.
Essentially the vaccine is incredibly important specifically because it's the only thing that can even the playing field for the working class. If there is any merit to a conspiracy, it's that anti-vax conspiracies and beliefs would exist to keep the working class down by preventing them from believing in a thing that could potentially put power back into their hands. Once again, another example of class infighting amongst the working class.
We can also agree most governments have handled this poorly and that corporate interests are in control. I don't see it as an organized cabal or entity, but opportunists taking advantage of the situation.
01-04-2021, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Hmmm. Seems to me you think it does:The virus doesn't think. It doesn't have a brain. It can't know anything.
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
It's safer to go to Wal-Mart in bigger numbers, than somewhere else in a smaller numbers, because the virus knows which businesses are essential, and which ones aren't.Why is it safer to buy a TV at Wal-Mart, than to buy a TV at an electronics store ( to keep it apples to apples )? The TV store is nonessential.
Why is it safer to go to a Wal-Mart than to go to the local outdoor garden center? The garden center is nonessential as well.
Why is it safer to go to a Wal-Mart than to go to the local outdoor garden center? The garden center is nonessential as well.

Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
I'll be honest, if given a choice, I'm not going to get the first round of a vaccine that was developed in record time... And I'm the farthest from a conspiracy theorist, I'm not even anti-mask.But that's the thing; suppressing it and/or acting like it isn't the solution or that the vaccine itself is a "conspiracy" like a lot of the brahs here are doing... Ignores the fact that the vaccine is literally the thing that could stand in the way of putting a stop to the situation or allowing it to progress and do further unrepairable damage. That, we can absolutely agree on.
Essentially the vaccine is incredibly important specifically because it's the only thing that can even the playing field for the working class. If there is any merit to a conspiracy, it's that anti-vax would exist to keep the working class down.
We can also agree most governments have handled this poorly and that corporate interests are in control. I don't see it as an organized cabal or entity, but opportunists taking advantage of the situation.
Essentially the vaccine is incredibly important specifically because it's the only thing that can even the playing field for the working class. If there is any merit to a conspiracy, it's that anti-vax would exist to keep the working class down.
We can also agree most governments have handled this poorly and that corporate interests are in control. I don't see it as an organized cabal or entity, but opportunists taking advantage of the situation.
01-04-2021, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
No that's not right. Your interpretation is incorrect, and as expected of someone with low intelligence, you completely ignored the nature of the supply chain and how a large firm like walmart will involve fewer steps and interactions between individuals than the supply for small distributors. I'll let you think about it for a while. Then you can cry knowing I eviscerated your arguments yet again. Good day.Hmmm. Seems to me you think it does:
It's safer to go to Wal-Mart in bigger numbers, than somewhere else in a smaller numbers, because the virus knows which businesses are essential, and which ones aren't.
It's safer to go to Wal-Mart in bigger numbers, than somewhere else in a smaller numbers, because the virus knows which businesses are essential, and which ones aren't.

Another issue is size of store. A large store has better ventilation and can reduce spread.
01-04-2021, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I don't see an issue with that.I'll be honest, if given a choice, I'm not going to get the first round of a vaccine that was developed in record time... And I'm the farthest from a conspiracy theorist, I'm not even anti-mask.
01-04-2021, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
our politicians seem so worried about covid despite all their tweets about staying home and saving lives and not getting together with family for the holidays!!!
word of advice:
- ignore politicians. they arent that worried about the virus.
- ignore wincel. hes a fat white *******.
He comes off as a CCP shill......that fuks chickens.
our politicians seem so worried about covid despite all their tweets about staying home and saving lives and not getting together with family for the holidays!!!
word of advice:
- ignore politicians. they arent that worried about the virus.
- ignore wincel. hes a fat white *******.
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01-04-2021, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I'm literally laughing at you grasping at straws as you think of them.No that's not right. Your interpretation is incorrect, and as expected of someone with low intelligence, you completely ignored the nature of the supply chain and how a large firm like walmart will involve fewer steps and interactions between individuals than the supply for small distributors. I'll let you think about it for a while. Then you can cry knowing I eviscerated your arguments yet again. Good day.
Did you find the study I asked for yet?
Or maybe the study that proves that the virus knows whether the store is essential or not?
Edit : Alternately, I will take a study that shows the reduced number of people involved in the supply chain of Wal-Mart vs. Best Buy.

01-04-2021, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
There's also point #2 which is also equally relevant here. Walmart is a bigger store and you have better ventilation. You don't need a study to know that fewer interactions and better ventilation leads to fewer cases of transmission.I'm literally laughing at you grasping at straws as you think of them.
Did you find the study I asked for yet?
Or maybe the study that proves that the virus knows whether the store is essential or not?
Edit : Alternately, I will take a study that shows the reduced number of people involved in the supply chain of Wal-Mart vs. Best Buy.
Did you find the study I asked for yet?
Or maybe the study that proves that the virus knows whether the store is essential or not?
Edit : Alternately, I will take a study that shows the reduced number of people involved in the supply chain of Wal-Mart vs. Best Buy.

Regarding the virus knowing things, epic straw man dude. But no, viruses don't have brains. Thanks for playing though. We're done. You're wrong as usual.

01-04-2021, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Grasping at straws - Wal-Mart has better ventilation than Best Buy.There's also point #2 which is also equally relevant here. Walmart is a bigger store and you have better ventilation. You don't need a study to know that fewer interactions and better ventilation leads to fewer cases of transmission.

Fewer interactions between hundreds of people in store vs. dozens.
Just LOL.
Edit : To keep track of the studies you need to find so far:
1. A study that shows you are less likely to catch Covid19 shopping for a TV in Wal-Mart than you are shopping for garden supplies at a local outdoor garden center,
2. A study that proves that the virus knows whether the store is essential or not,
3. A study that shows the reduced number of people involved in the supply chain of Wal-Mart vs. Best Buy,
4. A report that shows that the ventilation system of a Wal-Mart moves more cubic feet of air per minute per person than the ventilation system of a Best Buy.
Remember, I didn't come up with any of these, these are all things that you have said or implied.

01-04-2021, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Interestingly, nobody forced Best Buy to close.Grasping at straws - Wal-Mart has better ventilation than Best Buy.
Fewer interactions between hundreds of people in store vs. dozens.
Just LOL.

Fewer interactions between hundreds of people in store vs. dozens.
Just LOL.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/busin...ics/index.html
You can see here he chose to close his stores in response to the pandemic.
In fact, can you show me who is being forced to close? Aside from the most obvious offenders for spreading, like dining in bars and restaurants, clothing stores, cinemas, etc? I'm actually surprised garden stores are closed by order of the government. Are you sure they didn't just go out of business? Maybe you can link something showing the CDC ordered garden stores to close? Or maybe you're just a bullchitter?
01-04-2021, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
it knows not to infect people at BLM rallies. I have BLM posters all over my house to avoid infection. its science. it also doesnt infect while youre eating. i kept my mask off my entire 8 hour flight but made sure to eat a peanut every 120 seconds so the virus knew not to infect me while im eating.The virus doesn't think. It doesn't have a brain. It can't know anything.
01-04-2021, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Someone needs to look up strawman.Interestingly, nobody forced Best Buy to close.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/busin...ics/index.html
You can see here he chose to close his stores in response to the pandemic.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/busin...ics/index.html
You can see here he chose to close his stores in response to the pandemic.

01-04-2021, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
i have no doubt that cases have been on the rise and that you could find an example of a city where there would be potential for the healthcare system to be overwhelmed. however, just because there is a rise in cases doesn't mean that the healthcare system is on the verge of being overwhelmed everywhere. you can't draw that conclusion without conjecture.They are. I mean I can try to find hospitalization data for a specific city if you want me to, but almost every major city in the US is seeing increased hospitalizations and cases. There's been a recent surge. Things were looking a bit better in the summer in some parts, but it's made a comeback and almost every major city is seeing issues now.
Originally Posted By you
that's not enough to warrant a shutdown in these areasShould rural areas be as strict? Probably not. But the virus is so widespread now, and rural areas also often lack enough testing resources that it is hard to tease out which can be open and which need restrictions.
Originally Posted By you
i don't doubt the virus is real. thing is, this paragraph you wrote could easily apply to mental illness, suicides, bankruptcies, loss of livelihoods, etc. people don't generally oppose the lockdowns because the virus isnt real and because they dont think people arent dying from it. they oppose the lockdowns for all the reasons just stated, and more.All the information is there. The people who died are real. It's all real and available for everyone to read about and investigate. You can look. That's why I posted all these videos. So people can see this virus is real, it is causing damage, and people need to take it seriously. They should know the science behind it rather than what their favorite politican tells them.
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im not debating the vaccine. i'll likely be taking it because of my family members who are vulnerable. but that's not what we are debating.I will remind you that most of our medical community, essential workers, military, etc are all taking this vaccine. Our leaders are taking the vaccine. Dr. Fauci has taken the vaccine. If it weren't safe, they wouldn't take it. Everything carries with it some degree of risk, but it's theoretically irrational for this vaccine to have any long term effects that the virus wouldn't, and it is also highly unlikely you will have an allergic reaction. It's safe for almost everyone. And given the circumstances, it is definitely recommended.
01-04-2021, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Lastro⏩
What exactly are we debating here? And more importantly, why am I debating anyone? This thread is about information on covid. Period. Also tell me wtf is a lockdown according to you people?i have no doubt that cases have been on the rise and that you could find an example of a city where there would be potential for the healthcare system to be overwhelmed. however, just because there is a rise in cases doesn't mean that the healthcare system is on the verge of being overwhelmed everywhere. you can't draw that conclusion without conjecture.
that's not enough to warrant a shutdown in these areas
i don't doubt the virus is real. thing is, this paragraph you wrote could easily apply to mental illness, suicides, bankruptcies, loss of livelihoods, etc. people don't generally oppose the lockdowns because the virus isnt real and because they dont think people arent dying from it. they oppose the lockdowns for all the reasons just stated, and more.
im not debating the vaccine. i'll likely be taking it because of my family members who are vulnerable. but that's not what we are debating.
that's not enough to warrant a shutdown in these areas
i don't doubt the virus is real. thing is, this paragraph you wrote could easily apply to mental illness, suicides, bankruptcies, loss of livelihoods, etc. people don't generally oppose the lockdowns because the virus isnt real and because they dont think people arent dying from it. they oppose the lockdowns for all the reasons just stated, and more.
im not debating the vaccine. i'll likely be taking it because of my family members who are vulnerable. but that's not what we are debating.
01-04-2021, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
You understand that the correct thing would be a quarantine right? They made all these compromises BECAUSE American people can't handle it. It's a fuking virus. Rallies spread the disease. Eating with others spreads the disease. Pretty much everything involving you interacting with someone spreads the disease. Masks help. Distancing helps.it knows not to infect people at BLM rallies. I have BLM posters all over my house to avoid infection. its science. it also doesnt infect while youre eating. i kept my mask off my entire 8 hour flight but made sure to eat a peanut every 120 seconds so the virus knew not to infect me while im eating.
01-04-2021, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Now we're getting somewhere, so you're saying if people only went out for the strictest of essentials, that would be beneficial?You understand that the correct thing would be a quarantine right? They made all these compromises BECAUSE American people can't handle it. It's a fuking virus. Rallies spread the disease. Eating with others spreads the disease. Pretty much everything involving you interacting with someone spreads the disease. Masks help. Distancing helps.

01-04-2021, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10⏩
Yep.Cliffs: its just a cold
GF tested positive for it yesterday. Started feeling like she had a head cold on Monday of last week. I was with her several times over that period. She can’t smell or taste much.
For me other than a runny nose which I perpetually have due to sinuses, I feel fine. I’ve changed my oil and detailed my car today I’m so sick lmao.
Total joke
01-04-2021, 11:43 AM
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New news on the Moderna vaccine:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/04/mode...his-year.html\
"Moderna is upping the minimum number of doses it expects to make to 600 million, the company said Monday."
"The company said it’s working to produce up to 1 billion doses of its Covid vaccine this year. The U.S. is on track to secure 100 million shots of Moderna’s vaccine by the end of March and additional 100 million by June, the Massachusetts-based company said in a statement"
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/04/mode...his-year.html\
"Moderna is upping the minimum number of doses it expects to make to 600 million, the company said Monday."
"The company said it’s working to produce up to 1 billion doses of its Covid vaccine this year. The U.S. is on track to secure 100 million shots of Moderna’s vaccine by the end of March and additional 100 million by June, the Massachusetts-based company said in a statement"
01-04-2021, 11:46 AM
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its def not just a cold for people with underlying health issues. my own mother got it was hospitalized but came back home 4 days later. their treatment like i said countless times, has improved drastically since march.
wincel is just a loser that wants everyone else to be depressed along with him. ignore wincel, and live your life while he sits at home and talks to himself on his 20 alts.
wincel is just a loser that wants everyone else to be depressed along with him. ignore wincel, and live your life while he sits at home and talks to himself on his 20 alts.
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01-04-2021, 11:54 AM
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01-04-2021, 12:07 PM
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The impact of misinformation on covid response:
https://www.brookings.edu/research/h...and-behaviors/
https://www.brookings.edu/research/h...and-behaviors/
01-04-2021, 12:11 PM
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The impact of misinformation on covid response:
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=179523953
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=179523953
01-04-2021, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
fixd
01-04-2021, 12:37 PM
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01-04-2021, 12:44 PM
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01-04-2021, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
$1000.How much?
$200 up front for the shot, and an additional $800 to everyone once a certain number of people have been vaccinated.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...id-19-vaccine/
01-04-2021, 12:46 PM
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01-04-2021, 12:48 PM
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01-04-2021, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
LOL your own MOTHER was hospitalized for 4 days! How can you keep comparing it to the cold you f'ing moron. Your mother was one of the lucky ones. 350k other souls were not so lucky. Be thankful if she doesn't develop long term symptoms like millions of others have, or a premature heart attack/stroke from the way the virus fuks with your vascular system. Also, glad you finally stopped posting about murdering liberals on this forum. Did you get a visit from the g-men yet?its def not just a cold for people with underlying health issues. my own mother got it was hospitalized but came back home 4 days later. their treatment like i said countless times, has improved drastically since march.
wincel is just a loser that wants everyone else to be depressed along with him. ignore wincel, and live your life while he sits at home and talks to himself on his 20 alts.
wincel is just a loser that wants everyone else to be depressed along with him. ignore wincel, and live your life while he sits at home and talks to himself on his 20 alts.
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