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post 1627550193 01-05-2021, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
Would you agree to a vaccination bribe? A lot of economists have been saying if people don't take the vaccine that the govt should bribe them to take it.
I'm sure it would convince most people.

I think the 'treatment' clearly hurts people's overall health more than the increased risk of disease would with the lockdowns.

An interesting solution could give at risk people UBI in exchange for lockdowns and free up the market for younger people. Then, no one would complain.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Would you agree to a vaccination bribe? A lot of economists have been saying if people don't take the vaccine that the govt should bribe them to take it.
You spend so much energy in this thread trying to convince people that they shouldn't question the safety of the virus - if you tack a bribe onto it....it's not going to bring the results they are looking for
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Originally Posted By mesobuild
I'm sure it would convince most people.

I think the 'treatment' clearly hurts people's overall health more than the increased risk of disease would with the lockdowns.

An interesting solution could give at risk people UBI in exchange for lockdowns and free up the market for younger people. Then, no one would complain.
The virus doesn't care about that though. It will still spread around. Also, some younger folks DO die. It's rare, but it does happen.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
You spend so much energy in this thread trying to convince people that they shouldn't question the safety of the virus - if you tack a bribe onto it....it's not going to bring the results they are looking for
The goal is to get people to take the damn vaccine. If it's a bribe, at gunpoint, or w/e, I don't care. As long as they fuking take it.
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Originally Posted By wincel
The goal is to get people to take the damn vaccine. If it's a bribe, at gunpoint, or w/e, I don't care. As long as they fuking take it.
Fuk that vaccine
Ack...Ack
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
You spend so much energy in this thread trying to convince people that they shouldn't question the safety of the virus - if you tack a bribe onto it....it's not going to bring the results they are looking for
He spends so much energy in this thread to appear smarter than everyone else, nothing more.
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Originally Posted By wincel
The goal is to get people to take the damn vaccine. If it's a bribe, at gunpoint, or w/e, I don't care. As long as they fuking take it.
we're not taking it, get over it
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
we're not taking it, get over it
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Originally Posted By wincel
The goal is to get people to take the damn vaccine. If it's a bribe, at gunpoint, or w/e, I don't care. As long as they fuking take it.
Oh how freedom is a beautiful thing. Why would anyone want to see it disappear?
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Originally Posted By ramimotemem
Oh how freedom is a beautiful thing. Why would anyone want to see it disappear?
yup - that's why I don't wear a mask. I don't do that, I'm sure as heck not going to get a shot.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
yup - that's why I don't wear a mask. I don't do that, I'm sure as heck not going to get a shot.
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Originally Posted By wincel
A) I know what is in the McRib - pork product and regret
B) I don't have issues with the vaccine. If the case rate and/or the rate of extreme symptoms were higher, I would voluntarily take it. But like I said, I don't see the point - like masks.
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Not wearing a mask is the most insane thing of all. You don't lose anything or even really risk anything by wearing one. Just pretend you're an elite commando or ninja and go about your day.
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Originally Posted By wincel
The goal is to get people to take the damn vaccine. If it's a bribe, at gunpoint, or w/e, I don't care. As long as they fuking take it.
Can't I just get sick instead? I'd rather get sick than take the vaccine.
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Originally Posted By Glutebrahhh
Can't I just get sick instead? I'd rather get sick than take the vaccine.
That's completely irrational and insane.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Not wearing a mask is the most insane thing of all. You don't lose anything or even really risk anything by wearing one. Just pretend you're an elite commando or ninja and go about your day.
It's not about that, it's about the government not having the authority to mandate masks, shut down businesses, or tell you how many people you can have over your house.

The masks are just the easiest way to make a stand. I also dined in the last several weeks at my favorite places that defied the order and stayed open. Same with going to semi-large gatherings for holidays.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Not wearing a mask is the most insane thing of all. You don't lose anything or even really risk anything by wearing one. Just pretend you're an elite commando or ninja and go about your day.
what kind of mask do you sport?
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Originally Posted By wincel
That's completely irrational and insane.
how? You have to know that statistically - getting a bad reaction to the disease is very low. And despite vaccines being safe, some people do have negative reactions to vaccine ingredients. And there have been numerous medications that went through full trials and deemed safe that we found out later, were not.
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Originally Posted By exyl
what kind of mask do you sport?
I have some N95s from a while ago for some paint work, but I am saving them for my dad in case SHTF. I wear surgical masks. I also have a reusable cotton mask. I'm wearing surgicals until I run out, and then I will switch to the reusable one. The surgicals are more comfortable.
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Originally Posted By exyl
what kind of mask do you sport?
his mom's skirt
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
how? You have to know that statistically - getting a bad reaction to the disease is very low. And despite vaccines being safe, some people do have negative reactions to vaccine ingredients. And there have been numerous medications that went through full trials and deemed safe that we found out later, were not.
Yeah some do, but it's really rare. Even rarer than dying to covid. This vaccine isn't a medication. Medications have tons of metabolic byproducts and consequences. The vaccine is really simple. It gets cleared from your body within a few days.
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Originally Posted By wincel
The goal is to get people to take the damn vaccine. If it's a bribe, at gunpoint, or w/e, I don't care. As long as they fuking take it.
This is either roll bread or wincel is an actual insane person / totally irrational. Think it is time for him to be put on time out / this thread to be shutdown......
mo e
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Originally Posted By wincel
I have some N95s from a while ago for some paint work, but I am saving them for my dad in case SHTF. I wear surgical masks. I also have a reusable cotton mask.
lol n95s cost less than a dollar each

Are you that poor?
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Originally Posted By wincel
Yeah some do, but it's really rare. Even rarer than dying to covid. This vaccine isn't a medication. Medications have tons of metabolic byproducts and consequences. The vaccine is really simple. It gets cleared from your body within a few days.
Rarer than the overall death rate, or say the current death rate in your age group with your issues? I understand why people would want to get the vaccine. I also get why other people would rather wait.

Point being, things that have passed full clinical trials and deemed safe have been wrong.
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
lol n95s cost less than a dollar each

Are you that poor?
No. They aren't available for purchase anywhere or at least weren't last time I checked. Pretty much all N95s are going to the hospitals now.
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Originally Posted By wincel
That's completely irrational and insane.
Because the vaccine is FDA approved and the virus is a virus?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Rarer than the overall death rate, or say the current death rate in your age group with your issues? I understand why people would want to get the vaccine. I also get why other people would rather wait.

Point being, things that have passed full clinical trials and deemed safe have been wrong.
Even the death rate in the age group. This is all addressed in the videos I posted. They recommend the vaccine for everyone, including children who basically don't ever die from covid. It's about reducing the spread. We all need to do our part. A critical number of people need to be vaccinated to attain herd immunity.

Look, I get why people want to wait. My initial inclination was to wait too. But after reading more about it and realizing what is at stake, I know taking the vaccine is the right thing to do here.
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Because the vaccine is FDA approved and the virus is a virus?
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Originally Posted By wincel
No. They aren't available for purchase anywhere or at least weren't last time I checked. Pretty much all N95s are going to the hospitals now.
Trying leaving your parents' basement sometime - I have seen them getting restocked at the hardware stores
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Originally Posted By wincel
Not wearing a mask is the most insane thing of all. You don't lose anything or even really risk anything by wearing one. Just pretend you're an elite commando or ninja and go about your day.
Can't say I disagree with this.

Except for the part about pretending to be a ninja like a little kid.
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