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Originally Posted By Loochi⏩
Thanks for sharing brah, that's an interesting way of training!Yeah ofc. Bare with me with how I'm gonna share my routine.. If I have too many paragraphs it says "error" lol. I do 2 full body splits. (Keep in mind I've trained bro splits from 2007 to 2013, then did some strength training routines until 2018)WORKOUT A:BACK SQUAT, HIP BELT SQUAT, CG BENCH, SEAL ROW, SEATED DB SHOULDER PRESS, SEAL ROW DB REAR RAISES, INCLINE DB CURLS, LEG CURLS...WORKOUT B:CONVENTIONAL DEAD, STRICT OHP, SSB GOOD MORNINGS, PULL UPS, INC DB BENCH, SEATED LATERAL RAISES, SKULL CRUSHERS, LEG EXTENSIONS.
Every now and then I'd throw in sand bag carry or farmers walk depending how fatigued I am. I take TWO days off to recover both physically and mentally. Thus keeping kinks and niggles at bay while also allowing recovery for progress. My compoudn movements are ONE top set and my isolations are 2-3 sets depending. If I get bored I'd switch a lift out or if I have an upcoming comp (this march, strongman) I'll switch it up. So lately, I've been doing 'singles' with axle clean and push press rather than strict presses. Also, barbell compounds are 3-5 reps, other stuff like hip belt or good mornings, incline db etc is 8-10 reps, and isolations 12-15 reps. (no right and wrong but I prefer this way) - I went a full year doing 5's on compounds, now I'm doing 3's. When I completely plateau I'll switch back to 5's.. I think that's it ?
Every now and then I'd throw in sand bag carry or farmers walk depending how fatigued I am. I take TWO days off to recover both physically and mentally. Thus keeping kinks and niggles at bay while also allowing recovery for progress. My compoudn movements are ONE top set and my isolations are 2-3 sets depending. If I get bored I'd switch a lift out or if I have an upcoming comp (this march, strongman) I'll switch it up. So lately, I've been doing 'singles' with axle clean and push press rather than strict presses. Also, barbell compounds are 3-5 reps, other stuff like hip belt or good mornings, incline db etc is 8-10 reps, and isolations 12-15 reps. (no right and wrong but I prefer this way) - I went a full year doing 5's on compounds, now I'm doing 3's. When I completely plateau I'll switch back to 5's.. I think that's it ?
So in your current 2 x full body splits, how many days per week do you train? is it 2 x days on, two days Off? so 4 x days per week? or is it two days per week?
Did you make good gains with bro splits from 2007-2013? (muscle gains not strength gains)
And did you see much muscle gain growth when you did strength routines 2013-2018?
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OP is built like Ippo
Fuark when will it be mine turn to have an anime physique
Fuark when will it be mine turn to have an anime physique
01-09-2021, 04:18 AM
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Always mirin' the amount of effort you put into your physique
Good luck in the comp
Good luck in the comp
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01-09-2021, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Thanks mate - you got a solid one yourselfOP is built like Ippo
Fuark when will it be mine turn to have an anime physique
Fuark when will it be mine turn to have an anime physique
Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Thanks mate ! I'll update closer to the timeAlways mirin' the amount of effort you put into your physique
Good luck in the comp
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01-09-2021, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts⏩
Lol not sure if serious. No doubt op looks good but any natty who actually trained and dieted properly could look like this in a year or two easyFify
OP your legs looked insane in that pic from yesterday but your back looks freakin' wild here!
This is also why I laugh at the whole 2-3 years of lifting to reach your natty limit cope that's constantly thrown around here. Pretty sure OP can confirm that he looked nothing like that after 3 years. That's years and years of grinding. Honestly your muscles look 100 times better, harder and denser than the water inflated juicebags anyway.
OP your legs looked insane in that pic from yesterday but your back looks freakin' wild here!
This is also why I laugh at the whole 2-3 years of lifting to reach your natty limit cope that's constantly thrown around here. Pretty sure OP can confirm that he looked nothing like that after 3 years. That's years and years of grinding. Honestly your muscles look 100 times better, harder and denser than the water inflated juicebags anyway.
01-09-2021, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By mrdot⏩
Lmfao no.Lol not sure if serious. No doubt op looks good but any natty who actually trained and dieted properly could look like this in a year or two easy
Can't look like that natty, I'll never believe it.
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01-09-2021, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By mrdot⏩
Our perceptions may be biased. You might be relating this to black guys who tend to have better genetics for bodybuilding than the average white guy. No racist.Lol not sure if serious. No doubt op looks good but any natty who actually trained and dieted properly could look like this in a year or two easy
Even with top tier genetics though you ain't getting that kind of density and separation in anything close to a year. That takes time no matter your genetics. Most guys who don't have one on one instruction from someone more experienced will have garbage form on just about all exercises for more than a year nevernind how much other stuff you learn as you go.
01-09-2021, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
I'm in the Nate Diaz "everyone's on steroids" camp, but this time I actually think OP is natty.Lmfao no.
Can't look like that natty, I'll never believe it.
Can't look like that natty, I'll never believe it.
He's serious about his training and putting up some impressive compounds for his size yet still has a poverty chest. He'd definitely be juicier than 155 if he weren't natty.
Dude's a stocky 5'6 Persian mesomorph (great genetics for bodybuilding). His legs were just a question of dropping BF % and his upper body -- considering his height and genetics -- doesn't scream "fake natty".
He could definitely be running some clen or other fat burner but that still makes him natty in my book.


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His chest actually isn't poverty anymore. I guess his AVI is old. Now I'm skeptical of natty status with that juicy veiny chest and back:

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First Aussiecels internationally mog
Now offbrand kangaroocels are too
Cot dam wood/10
That show & song are sick
Now offbrand kangaroocels are too
Cot dam wood/10
Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Quoting to rep off R/COP is built like Ippo
Fuark when will it be mine turn to have an anime physique
Fuark when will it be mine turn to have an anime physique
That show & song are sick
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Originally Posted By Loochi⏩
Do you sell custom noodles?AMA
Need to confirm whether or not you just made me ghey
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01-09-2021, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted By mrdot⏩
Lol. Come on dude. NoLol not sure if serious. No doubt op looks good but any natty who actually trained and dieted properly could look like this in a year or two easy
Originally Posted By Coal
Lmao it's not that impressive tbhLmfao no.
Can't look like that natty, I'll never believe it.
Can't look like that natty, I'll never believe it.
Originally Posted By JoeDelts⏩
AgreeOur perceptions may be biased. You might be relating this to black guys who tend to have better genetics for bodybuilding than the average white guy. No racist.
Even with top tier genetics though you ain't getting that kind of density and separation in anything close to a year. That takes time no matter your genetics. Most guys who don't have one on one instruction from someone more experienced will have garbage form on just about all exercises for more than a year nevernind how much other stuff you learn as you go.
Even with top tier genetics though you ain't getting that kind of density and separation in anything close to a year. That takes time no matter your genetics. Most guys who don't have one on one instruction from someone more experienced will have garbage form on just about all exercises for more than a year nevernind how much other stuff you learn as you go.
Originally Posted By LooksMaximus⏩
Dude. Lol. Clen ? I haven't touched a single illegal drug lol. Poverty chest ? It's one of my best body parts. Arms being my worst. Don't just assume and act like a no it all.. Trust me, you don't know what you're talking about rofl. I know you mean well but nothing irks me more than some wanna be know it all. Btw the pic u posted of me with your suspicions is redic. I could post a pic that'll topple that. Means nothing. Come on man lol.I'm in the Nate Diaz "everyone's on steroids" camp, but this time I actually think OP is natty.
He's serious about his training and putting up some impressive compounds for his size yet still has a poverty chest. He'd definitely be juicier than 155 if he weren't natty.
Dude's a stocky 5'6 Persian mesomorph (great genetics for bodybuilding). His legs were just a question of dropping BF % and his upper body -- considering his height and genetics -- doesn't scream "fake natty".
He could definitely be running some clen or other fat burner but that still makes him natty in my book.


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His chest actually isn't poverty anymore. I guess his AVI is old. Now I'm skeptical of natty status with that juicy veiny chest and back:

He's serious about his training and putting up some impressive compounds for his size yet still has a poverty chest. He'd definitely be juicier than 155 if he weren't natty.
Dude's a stocky 5'6 Persian mesomorph (great genetics for bodybuilding). His legs were just a question of dropping BF % and his upper body -- considering his height and genetics -- doesn't scream "fake natty".
He could definitely be running some clen or other fat burner but that still makes him natty in my book.


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His chest actually isn't poverty anymore. I guess his AVI is old. Now I'm skeptical of natty status with that juicy veiny chest and back:

Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
Ty i thinkFirst Aussiecels internationally mog
Now offbrand kangaroocels are too
Cot dam wood/10
Quoting to rep off R/C
That show & song are sick
Now offbrand kangaroocels are too
Cot dam wood/10
Quoting to rep off R/C
That show & song are sick
Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
LooolDo you sell custom noodles?
Need to confirm whether or not you just made me ghey
Need to confirm whether or not you just made me ghey
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01-09-2021, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Twistur⏩
I can't prove my status sir but for what it's worth, 100% natty.what bodyfat is the last pic? 10%?
I believe natty but respect regardless
I believe natty but respect regardless
Pic.. maybe 13 or 14% ?
Here's 10%ish. Weighed 149 or 150 i think. Back in 2019. Was gonna compete but life got in way so did in 2020. Obviously if I competed in 2019 I would've looked hella better

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01-09-2021, 10:24 PM
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Edit:
His chest actually isn't poverty anymore. I guess his AVI is old. Now I'm skeptical of natty status with that juicy veiny chest and back:
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/v8K2FdRm/Screenshot-20190911-075855-Instagram.jpg[/mg][/QUOTE]
First of all, to address general comments
"Oh he's ONLY 156" - Sure that's a low number but people seem to forget that a very shredded 156 on a shorter guy is quite big in real life. Most people on this forum don't even realise how much fat their bodies can drop.
"If he took he'd definitely be bigger" - maybe he just doesn't want to be bigger? Maybe he has a certain weight limit in mind? Maybe he takes lower doses and less variety of fruit juices?
"This chest is small he can't be on anything" - some people just have genetically weak parts that will always remain a weak part. There's top 10 olympia competitors that have calves with less girth than my dink.
Again, no accusations, just general thoughts. Also, in my opinion there's a certain hardness and roundness to the muscle at a very low bodyfat that natties just don't have.
This is how a nattygraham looks before and after a cut. Anyone who has done this knows wtf I'm talking about lol. It's actually disgusting how much muscle is lost.
[img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nBrAO9t0cnI/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]
[img]https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9bde85b356317c37a99df7141deaa325[/img]
Anyways OP looks fantastic, best of luck in your show brah.
Edit:
His chest actually isn't poverty anymore. I guess his AVI is old. Now I'm skeptical of natty status with that juicy veiny chest and back:
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/v8K2FdRm/Screenshot-20190911-075855-Instagram.jpg[/mg][/QUOTE]
First of all, to address general comments
"Oh he's ONLY 156" - Sure that's a low number but people seem to forget that a very shredded 156 on a shorter guy is quite big in real life. Most people on this forum don't even realise how much fat their bodies can drop.
"If he took he'd definitely be bigger" - maybe he just doesn't want to be bigger? Maybe he has a certain weight limit in mind? Maybe he takes lower doses and less variety of fruit juices?
"This chest is small he can't be on anything" - some people just have genetically weak parts that will always remain a weak part. There's top 10 olympia competitors that have calves with less girth than my dink.
Again, no accusations, just general thoughts. Also, in my opinion there's a certain hardness and roundness to the muscle at a very low bodyfat that natties just don't have.
This is how a nattygraham looks before and after a cut. Anyone who has done this knows wtf I'm talking about lol. It's actually disgusting how much muscle is lost.
[img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nBrAO9t0cnI/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]
[img]https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9bde85b356317c37a99df7141deaa325[/img]
Anyways OP looks fantastic, best of luck in your show brah.
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Originally Posted By Loochi⏩
I went in as delicately and reasonably and with as much lube as possible. If I were to behave like a "no it all" I would have simply stated "fuark no way he's natty" instead of just being "skeptical" and actually taking the time to find pics of you and even editing my post about your chest.Dude. Lol. Clen ? I haven't touched a single illegal drug lol. Poverty chest ? It's one of my best body parts. Arms being my worst. Don't just assume and act like a no it all.. Trust me, you don't know what you're talking about rofl. I know you mean well but nothing irks me more than some wanna be know it all. Btw the pic u posted of me with your suspicions is redic. I could post a pic that'll topple that. Means nothing. Come on man lol.
I've been around OJ and gyms for almost 10 years now. Never met a single natty in my life who looks like you.
If you showed me 100 men with your physique and gave me the following 50-50 bet that pays 2-to-1:
A: natty
B: not natty
I'd bet B 100/100 times and I'd win at least 95 times. With you and a couple of other genetic freaks being my only losses.
Not hating, just stating facts and probability. As Coal Man above me stated, "there's a certain hardness and roundness to the muscle at a very low bodyfat that natties just don't have."
But we've actually got people out there who believe that Simeon Panda, Lazar Angelov and Mike O'Hearn are natty and $100 of OJ a month will turn you into an IFBB pro.
Edit:
Actually come to think of it one my regular clients was built similar to you in his prime. He's a little taller than you and has got freak genetics. His calves were already the size of footballs before he even started training. And he was doing crossfit as opposed to classic bodybuilding. If he did bodybuilding he'd probably be identical to you or maybe even bigger. So there you go. One guy out of all the dudes I've met. Still betting 100/100. The odds are definitely on my side.
Take any skepticism as the ultimate compliment, boyo.
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I can dealift 5 plates for reps, why doesn't my back look like yours, pls repsornd!
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Originally Posted By verymuchalpha⏩
*******, i can do infinity pullupsPullups
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Originally Posted By Twistur⏩
I know this is kind of a side topic, but I remember seeing his vid years ago when he made the switch to the dark side. It looks like in 3 years he aged 10 ho lee fuark.Lol somewhat true
This is a guy I follow and you can really see the difference in size at the end clip
Its a close to 40lb cut. he shows each interval of the cut
This is another cut a year after
This is a guy I follow and you can really see the difference in size at the end clip
Its a close to 40lb cut. he shows each interval of the cut
This is another cut a year after
Also habibi op always mirin everytime
watchout your comments boyo ↓
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Originally Posted By Coal
That hard dense look is from heavy low rep training, which you rarely ever see anyone doing especially your typical gym bros that make up 95% of gym goers. OP has posted videos and has stated that he's been doing that type of training for years and lifting for 14 years overall. That's why that look is so eye catching and looks so sick when you see it. It's super rare and makes me want to start lifting heavy but frankly I've always been to much of a pussy like pretty much everyone else.Again, no accusations, just general thoughts. Also, in my opinion there's a certain hardness and roundness to the muscle at a very low bodyfat that natties just don't have.
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Thanks for being such an inspiration to us all.
Stay safe and strong, brother.

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Originally Posted By Loochi⏩
Thanks brotha! Looking forward to seeing you keep crushing it.Thanks mate - you got a solid one yourself
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