op you must clap those cheeks at all costs. **** her after the gym in the parking lot or something

lol from the way this is going I’ll be impressed if he even gets a kiss on the cheek.

LOL last older chick I bagged I literally told her "the only reason younger guys go after older women is to have some "fun" with no commitments".

Her response was "I like you because you're so honest" LMAO.

Point being is regardless of what I said as long as I didn't do anything to mess it up I was already in.

But you also have to realize you're not gonna bag (especially) an older broad who's been around the block a few times by tip-toeing around the topic of sex.

For future reference OP you need to let her know, if you wanna be less aggressive pose it as a question: "I hear that women of a certain age are only interested in younger men because their sex drive is high and younger men have the energy to satisfy them. Is that true?"

We all know that's true, you're just indirectly getting the point across to her that you know "what's up" without being like "hurr, you're a dirty old sloot".

In case what?

In case he wanted to make some balloon animals?

There’s a lot of dudes who are “alpha” (read: try hards, not naturally alpha at all) with other men and complete betas with women

Not saying that’s OP, but it is pretty common

One of the most bruta threads I’ve seen in my Misc career lol

It just seems so weird to be a completely assertive, take no shhit type of personality in one area of life and the complete opposite of that in another area but you're probably right that there are guys like that.

Given the way this thread has turned around I’m fully expecting OP to come out of the closet around page 15 or so.

Hope I’m wrong but not pursuing a woman with clear interest (with 3 condoms in your own pocket lmao!) is about as autistic as yogurtbrah thinking female discharge was another mans semen.

you know you chit the bed when the entire misc comes together to say you fked up.

read page 1 and 13. seems to be all I need.

I handle business at work, no chit taken.

Women are another matter entirely for me

how do you handle drunken hot sloots at work?

ma'am would you please comply and put these cuffs on yourself if that makes you feel comfortable

When that uniform is on, it’s all business. I joke with my squadmates not the public

what's your game plan? i would hate a gym date. drinks after the gym is a different story. pumped and sweaty with hormones and pheromones jumping. mix in a little tequila and tacos and you've got all of the makings of a great time.

Also it’s not a fake nice guy persona, I am who I am srs I was single all through middle and high school. I didn’t even lose my virginity till I was 21. So I missed out on a lot of social experiences with women.

So I’m already this deep in the hole I may as well tell you guys I got a text a 10-15 minutes ago saying she decided not to go to the gym today RIP

It’s whatever if anything I was thankful just to get a date with someone. Asking girls my age is like pulling teeth they’re so flaky so y’know it was cool just to spend time with someone.

what might have happened - which is no fault of your own is this - this woman, near age 50, looked at you at some point in the night and said to herself - WTF am i doing? i'm damn near 50 years old and i'm sitting here with this young baby-faced 20-something year old kid that looks like he could be my son. he's a nice kid, maybe could be a friend, but there's no romantic future here for me. it sounded great for her on paper a few days ago, but when reality set in, she realized it's not what she wanted. i'm not saying this is absolutely what she was thinking, but it's possible. so don't beat yourself up too much if this thing fizzles out.

Life goes on my friend

yeah man don't sweat it. like in my other post i said there's a huge age difference. contrary to what people here say, many women - especially older women - actually want a real relationship and not just smash. she doesn't see that with you because of the age gap and the future distance thing. you can't take this stuff personally.

Brutal. Ask if you can come over to watch a movie? Send dick pic? Nothing to lose at this point

The Player’s Proverbs - The Player

1. A lesson learned keeps you from getting burned. Always learn from your experiences and never forget about the consequences of your actions in order to prevent repeating the same mistakes. Also, never turn away from someone who takes the time to give you advice - especially when it comes from his or her own experience.
2. If the fish gets eaten by another shark, don’t waste time fighting him for it, move forward like a great white shark hunting other bait as you move along.
3. Use music and wine to keep things spicy.
4. Be friends with as many girls as possible.
5. Stop judging other people based on their gender, and start judging them as individuals.
6. It only hurts if both your puppy and mother reject you. Never treat a woman you just met better than you would your mother or sister. Only when she proves her worth to you should you worry about her holiness’ happiness. Until then, she’s just a bird. Treat her with respect, but don’t worry if she flies away.
7. Like anything in life, the more you practice doing a particular stressful task, the easier it becomes to perform. Rejection can be hard to accept, but once you learn not to take things personally, you will see that it becomes easier.
8. If you want to eat the cookie, you’re going to have to put your hand in the cookie jar. A lot of men go through life expecting things to come to them. But if you want something in life, then you’re going to have to work hard and go after it.
9. Good players are honest about their intentions: it’s good for the ego.
10. Dress and Groom well and Stay Fit. Buy the best clothes/shoes/belt/watch that you can afford. Make sure your clothes are classic, modern, timeless, and flattering. If you’re out of shape, then hit the gym, gain some muscle mass and lose the gut. Eat healthy. White teeth provoke deep thoughts with a smile. Get a good, modern haircut regularly.
11. The best way to “close a deal” is through your kissing abilities. Just like you need a key to start your car, a passionate kiss is the secret to igniting her body. Keep it natural, passionate, simple, and sexy.
12. Make a woman feel beautiful when she is around you, and she will always want to be with you, or will at least cherish the moments when she is in your presence. Women love to be around men who make them feel good and special. If you want a woman who wants to hang out with you more often, then you have to be friendly and charming. Don’t be grumpy or negative in her presence.
13. A match is hot until the flame goes out; be sure to leave while the fire is burning bright, otherwise your spark will die. Just because you’re having a good conversation, doesn’t mean you have to keep going at it for hours. At one point, the excitement of your conversation will die down. The trick is to always leave with your head up. If she’s into you, leave on a high note -- it’ll leave her wanting more.
14. Don’t drink too much when on the hunt or on a date. When you do, you are almost always sloppy and obnoxious. Limit your drinks to one per hour to a maximum total of 6 for the night. Mix in some waters and switch to only waters at the end of the night.
15. Always ask open-ended questions and look into their eyes. Women want to be the center of attention.
16. Always get her number. Never ask for it - Go with the “Assumption Close”. Always EXCHANGE numbers. Wait a few days to text, text late - at around 8-9pm, and keep the first text short and sweet – set up the time/place of date and that’s it. No Dinners! Meet for a drink at happy hour. Keep it light and casual!
17. Hesitation leads to masturbation. If you’re scared of rejection or you hesitate about approaching women, you will be spending a lot of lonely nights with your dominant hand. The best time to approach a woman after getting the right buying signals is to follow “The Three-Second Rule”. All successful players abide by it. The rule states that once a man spots a woman who meets his standards and gives him eye contact or a smile (buying signals), he has three seconds to walk up to her and say, “Hi I’m Steve, can I join you for a drink?” If he waits any longer -- because of his hesitation -- he shouldn’t even bother. He missed his window of opportunity of coming across as a sincere man who’s approaching a woman because she caught his eye, rather than looking like a scavenger prowling to pick up the first woman who’ll say “yes” to him. The next time you’re out with the boys, remember three words: three, two, one... and it will be game over. Until next time, keep batting and soon you’ll have plenty of women wanting to play balls.

What’s your game plan for your next date with a different woman OP?

The following text was posted in 2013 in one of the first Tinder threads, I've always kept it with me to motivate myself. I still read it sometimes when I'm feeling down. The guy who wrote it was a genius regarding women:

At the moment you're living your life for others, worrying how your actions look to others and worrying that you're not doing good enough for them. One of the sayings that really struck with me was, "don't be concerned about being in people's way or are disturbing them, take up as much space as you want and let them tell you if they have a problem with it." Live your life for yourself, be selfish until given a reason not to be....

Don't intentionally bring people down, but NEVER intentionally bring yourself down FOR other people. It's a whole mindset that you need to fix, and it's very, very possible.

Most people who seem to have "have it all together" aren't naturally like that, they were right where you are now and have climbed out of it by learning to respect, appreciate and love themselves. If you don't live your life with the directive to make it as happy, enjoyable, pleasureable, and meaningful as it can be - no one else will.

Everyone is playing their own game, and you're playing into their hand for absolutely no reason.

The moment you begin to be happy in your own skin is like a breathless air just washes over you and everything just becomes easier. Social interactions become a breeze when people have to prove themselves to you rather than you proving yourself to them. I know anxiety is not something you can magically cure, but at least know where you're trying to go so you can get there easier.

OP ask her if she wants to stay friends

I feel you. I feel once you fall behind your peers socially it's really hard to make up for lost time. The gains in social skills they made compound over time, making the rift bigger. Then when you're in your twenties you're just so fukkin far behind with no real way to make up for the missed experience. I definitely sympathize as this is something I deal with.
Furak, hate to say it but misc was right again. I think a lot of people are being overly-abrasive calling you names and chit, but there's definitely some kernels of truth in what they're saying. In this situation, the chick just wanted to be ravaged, bro. I don't think treating her as you would a contemporary was the right approach. In this case it would've been better to be a real creep and strike out than to be too conservative. Save that for girls you actually want to date long-term. Anyway, don't stress. Take it as a learning experience. At least you went out with her and could hold a decent convo for a while.

Of course. All of the sex appeal is gone on her end.

She wanted a young stud(no homo) that would take charge and fuk her better than the other men her age. She’ll find someone else with high test at that gym

Holy fail

I’ll be more aggressive with the physical touch next time try to hold hands or have my arm around her or something

Although since I’m Autismo when it comes to dating they’ll feel uncomfortable probably lol

You sure that you're not trying to justify what actually happened here? What you said might be true or maybe she really just wanted to have sex with alot of young athletic/muscled up blokes and OP didn't quite fit the mark when she showed indications of interest of which he responded by doing absolute **** all.

None of us are perfect when it comes to chicks, some just have more experience so they're obviously more confident and have the 'dont give a **** attitude, i just want sexors'

All in all, it is what it is, learn and never repeat i guess

Well there you go. Hate to say it OP, but if you had treated her like she wanted to be treated - like a desirable woman who wants to get laid - that wouldn't have happened. Some other guy is going to not fumble the football next time and have fun with her.