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post 1628252623 01-11-2021, 12:53 PM
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My younger brother is im the ICU after eso****eal varices and alcohol withdrawals

And here I am on the other side of the country at work not skipping a beat because that’s what’s expected of me.

Mind is racing dunno how to respond to this.

None of it makes any sense to me.

No more relaxing drinks with my bro when i go visit even if he makes it through.

EDIT: I actually don’t know how to deal with something like this. Do i tell people or keep it all bottled up until i spaz out.

Im socially awkward as **** with this stuff
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post 1628252883 01-11-2021, 12:55 PM
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Very sorry to hear this and hope he pulls through. Whatever you do try to remain in positive spirits and get there to see him whenever possible.
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Originally Posted By DrumsNotDead
Very sorry to hear this and hope he pulls through. Whatever you do try to remain in positive spirits and get there to see him whenever possible.
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Fk sorry to hear bro. Hoping he has 100% recovery. Got two little bros myself that I love dearly
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I'm sorry to hear that. I hope he makes a full recovery. Hang in there.
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how does that happen? How old is he?

Feel like I'm on the verge of it srs, several multiple day benders and don't remember the past month srs every time I wake up I'm grateful to have done so

Praying he gets better
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My maternal uncle died from his alcoholism @ age 40 srs.

He had about 10 episodes like the one you've described before he finally succumbed to his poor choices and weakness.

I don't say that to be crass, I say that because it likely means your brother will survive and you and your family will have a chance to intervene in his lifestyle before his mistakes become life-ending.
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If he has varices he's ****ed.
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Good luck OP

Addiction is a nasty disease, hope your little bro pulls through
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Can’t you just stop or at least reduce? It’s so hard for me to understand addiction.
What would I do every day if I didn't drink?

I wouldn't ever meet girls, I wouldn't ever meet friends. I'd just be an incel loser complaining on the Misc.

Instead, I go out somewhere between 3pm-6pm. Have my first drink, and next you know it's the next morning 7am, everything is closed so I have to go to the strip club for a few hours until the bars start reopening. 40 hours later and my BAC is still dangerously high, I get home and pass out.

But I meet a lot of people, go home with another girl once a week or so, become very social and have an amazing time in the moment. Only time I'm not really drinking is when I'm passed out for 15-20 hours waking up every few hours in a puddle of sweat and night terrors.
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alcohol withdrawals are no joke. Saw it first hand with my inlaws.

IIRC Alcohol is one of the few drug withdrawals that can actually kill you.
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Originally Posted By xeron
What would I do every day if I didn't drink?

I wouldn't ever meet girls, I wouldn't ever meet friends. I'd just be an incel loser complaining on the Misc.

Instead, I go out somewhere between 3pm-6pm. Have my first drink, and next you know it's the next morning 7am, everything is closed so I have to go to the strip club for a few hours until the bars start reopening. 40 hours later and my BAC is still dangerously high, I get home and pass out.

But I meet a lot of people, go home with another girl once a week or so, become very social and have an amazing time in the moment. Only time I'm not really drinking is when I'm passed out for 15-20 hours waking up every few hours in a puddle of sweat and night terrors.
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Hope he pulls through OP.
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Originally Posted By xeron
What would I do every day if I didn't drink?

I wouldn't ever meet girls, I wouldn't ever meet friends. I'd just be an incel loser complaining on the Misc.

Instead, I go out somewhere between 3pm-6pm. Have my first drink, and next you know it's the next morning 7am, everything is closed so I have to go to the strip club for a few hours until the bars start reopening. 40 hours later and my BAC is still dangerously high, I get home and pass out.

But I meet a lot of people, go home with another girl once a week or so, become very social and have an amazing time in the moment. Only time I'm not really drinking is when I'm passed out for 15-20 hours waking up every few hours in a puddle of sweat and night terrors.
Brah I think you need to get some help srs. There is a middle ground between being an incel loser that stays home complaining on misc all day vs going on multi day benders. If you can't find that middle ground on your own, I'd strongly suggest sobriety srs. What you're doing now will kill you.
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Originally Posted By xeron
What would I do every day if I didn't drink?

I wouldn't ever meet girls, I wouldn't ever meet friends. I'd just be an incel loser complaining on the Misc.

Instead, I go out somewhere between 3pm-6pm. Have my first drink, and next you know it's the next morning 7am, everything is closed so I have to go to the strip club for a few hours until the bars start reopening. 40 hours later and my BAC is still dangerously high, I get home and pass out.

But I meet a lot of people, go home with another girl once a week or so, become very social and have an amazing time in the moment. Only time I'm not really drinking is when I'm passed out for 15-20 hours waking up every few hours in a puddle of sweat and night terrors.
This is the behavior of a lush or a drunk, not an alcoholic.

A lush/drunkard uses alcohol as a means to an end. For an alcoholic, the booze is the end in and of itself.

My uncle stopped going to his job that my grandfather got him so that he could stay home and drink. He was eventually reduced to living in a public housing facility in Inglewood and scraping together enough spare change to hit up the licka sto and buy a cheap bottle of some paint thinner tier liquor-- I forgot what his brands were already, he died almost a decade ago.

He would show up to family dinners so drunk he would have pissed himself before he came in and not even realized it/forgotten that it happened. He would drink so much that he would pass out on the toilet when he was visiting. On the rare occassion he was sober, his hand would shake so much that he would stumble and fall as the cane he has to use to walk (for no reason other than CNS damage) would slide from under him and he would collapse.

Be an adult and stop drinking for 2-3 days. Most likely you will experience some minor headaches but no major physical consequences. That is how you know that your "addiction" is a mental issue and not a physical one (as alcoholism is). Now you have the tools to solve it, so solve it.

BTW I say all this as a major fan of the drink.
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Yup sounds about right. Alcohol is poison, glad I quit while I was ahead. Your bro will recover and wish him the best. Hopefully this is his rock bottom
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Originally Posted By RaibeartBruis
If he has varices he's ****ed.
Not necessarily. It is definitely an extreme medical emergency but can be treated
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varices ..damn i had to google that sht.

that all sounds terrible. hopefully he can make it through. hopefully he wants more out of life
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ICU? Hope he has health insurance.

Dat chit is gon' be fukkin expensive.
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sounds pretty serious - hope he pulls through and gets some help.
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He's pretty much going to be phucked if he doesn't quit.

Also, had an uncle die from those.
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Originally Posted By mycorona
Not necessarily. It is definitely an extreme medical emergency but can be treated
I meant long term, if he survives

It will be a revolving door of hospital visits for varices and all the other complications of liver cirrhosis
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Originally Posted By xeron
how does that happen? How old is he?

Feel like I'm on the verge of it srs, several multiple day benders and don't remember the past month srs every time I wake up I'm grateful to have done so

Praying he gets better
Hes 29 which is what doesn’t make sense to me and what angers me so much.

Eso****eal varices is a late finding of cirrhosis as far as i know and he had no other symptoms. How the **** does that happen???

He isn’t a text book addict either. He has quit cold turkey with no problem but goes back in times of stress.

The worst part is I know him. I lf he had any worry signs he would have quit asap
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Damn hope your brother pulls through. Hopefully this is his rock bottom and will get clean and sober. He needs to go see a therapist for his issues. He's just trying to drink his demons away and thats not how it works.
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Originally Posted By drFEEL
Hes 29 which is what doesn’t make sense to me and what angers me so much.

Eso****eal varices is a late finding of cirrhosis as far as i know and he had no other symptoms. How the **** does that happen???

He isn’t a text book addict either. He has quit cold turkey with no problem but goes back in times of stress.

The worst part is I know him. I lf he had any worry signs he would have quit asap
I'm going to guess he was drinking waaaaaay more than you knew. Alcoholics are very good at covering their drinking. Cirrhosis is notorious for not showing symptoms until it is too late.
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I wouldnt be doing chit. Serious.

Most of what you would be doing without gaining some knowledge first is enabling him.

My mom is an alcoholic(in recovery) and did some dumb **** multiple times, I never dropped a thing to go visit her. That was her choice to put herself there and I wasnt going to let her get the ability of having me feel sorry for her for a second or effecting my life. It just enables them in so many ways to keep doing what they do. They need to learn to become RESPONSIBLE for their own actions and emotions. It isnt your job. Their behavior negatively impacting your life is like a hard on for addicts. Gives them so much more reason to keep doing what they do.

Notice how I said she is now in recovery and has been for over half a decade now.
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