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No one should mess with these things"srs" if u stay away from them they stay away from you...if u start poking and u open a window....thats bad....once they see u...ur locked.

Good thing is.... none will mess ur life up if u dnt invoke them.

Thats a landmine territory ..nothing good comes from it
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
No one should mess with these things"srs" if u stay away from them they stay away from you...if u start poking and u open a window....thats bad....once they see u...ur locked.

Good thing is.... none will mess ur life up if u dnt invoke them.

Thats a landmine territory ..nothing good comes from it
I think that's why most people instinctively deny these things after - to protect themselves. I don't go out looking for things, but **** has happened and I'm not going to pretend it didn't to make myself or anyone else feel better.
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Originally Posted By Km2019
I think that's why most people instinctively deny these things after - to protect themselves. I don't go out looking for things, but **** has happened and I'm not going to pretend it didn't to make myself or anyone else feel better.
Things like this dont "happen" on themselves...they need a catalyst.

What ur having or did have is psychological
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
Yeah. Had a demonic sleep paralysis experience and it vanished as soon as I said Jesus help me or something... srs

obviously people will say it's a hallucination but i knew it was real
I think it's pretty common to hallucinate during sleep paralysis.

I've seen some weird things during sleep paralysis as well. One time, I suddenly woke up from sleep but was completely paralyzed. Only thing I could move were my eyes and I could see 3 aliens in front of my bed. 2 of them were actually running towards me, because they realized I had "woken up".
It all went by pretty fast and I could suddenly move again after I woke up a second time. This happened when I was a kid and it freaked me out for a bit, but I later found out that it's common to see things while you're in sleep paralysis.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
Things like this dont "happen" on themselves...they need a catalyst.

What ur having or did have is psychological
For it to be psychological, that would mean that I've only ever had these psychological issues at these specific times, and the rest of my life has been unaffected in any way. How convenient an explanation. And that doesn't explain how other people were there and experienced the same things along with me (I was alone during the event I described on the first page though).
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Originally Posted By Km2019
For it to be psychological, that would mean that I've only ever had these psychological issues at these specific times, and the rest of my life has been unaffected in any way. How convenient an explanation. And that doesn't explain how other people were there and experienced the same things along with me (I was alone during the event I described on the first page though).
Then record and post it here
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No, I don't.

But I believe in Djinn, creation by God created from fire which pre-existed man and still exist. They're able to take many forms and can trick people to think their dead loved ones are roaming the earth which is not possible.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
Then record and post it here
It's hard because I obviously don't control when these things are going to happen, and I'm not going to go looking for them. And like I said, when it's happening, you aren't thinking about **** like that. The fear takes over and you just want to get away or for it to stop.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
No, I don't.

But I believe in Djinn, creation by God created from fire which pre-existed man and still exist. They're able to take many forms and can trick people to think their dead loved ones are roaming the earth which is not possible.
Djin = demons...... or children of.... i guess ur a muslim...so confirmed by the quraan,old and new test.
Originally Posted By Km2019
It's hard because I obviously don't control when these things are going to happen, and I'm not going to go looking for them. And like I said, when it's happening, you aren't thinking about **** like that. The fear takes over and you just want to get away or for it to stop.
Dude srsly...stfu..youre a donkey
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
No, I don't.

But I believe in Djinn, creation by God created from fire which pre-existed man and still exist. They're able to take many forms and can trick people to think their dead loved ones are roaming the earth which is not possible.
That's similar to what I was thinking about. Dark matter/exotic matter beings or energy beings that haven't yet been explained by science. I know that's from the Quran, but you have to remember that those texts were written for people to understand thousands of years ago, they have to be taken figuratively. Some parts more than others.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
Djin = demons...... or children of.... i guess ur a muslim...so confirmed by the quraan,old and new test.



Dude srsly...stfu..youre a donkey
GTFO then bitch.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
Djin = demons...... or children of.... i guess ur a muslim...so confirmed by the quraan,old and new test.



Dude srsly...stfu..youre a donkey
Ya done ****ed up now lol. Enjoy.
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Originally Posted By aceroa
I think it's pretty common to hallucinate during sleep paralysis.

I've seen some weird things during sleep paralysis as well. One time, I suddenly woke up from sleep but was completely paralyzed. Only thing I could move were my eyes and I could see 3 aliens in front of my bed. 2 of them were actually running towards me, because they realized I had "woken up".
It all went by pretty fast and I could suddenly move again after I woke up a second time. This happened when I was a kid and it freaked me out for a bit, but I later found out that it's common to see things while you're in sleep paralysis.
Have had it before and it sucks ass. never seen anything though. glad i never see anything either. wife has actually seen me have it and freaked her out, she thought i was broke lol...

takes a few mins but i got pretty good at breaking it.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
Djin = demons...... or children of.... i guess ur a muslim...so confirmed by the quraan,old and new test.
That's not true at all. Djinn are a race of creation pre-existing men. There are good and bad Djinn. "Satan" or Iblis was one of those creations. What elevated him to become satan was his objection to bowing down to the creation of man when God told them to bow down.

He then came back with a challenge to corrupt mankind.

But the true essence is balance. Good must need bad to exist in order for balance to occur. Just like night follows day - both are complementary and necessary.
Originally Posted By Km2019
That's similar to what I was thinking about. Dark matter/exotic matter beings or energy beings that haven't yet been explained by science. I know that's from the Quran, but you have to remember that those texts were written for people to understand thousands of years ago, they have to be taken figuratively. Some parts more than others.
I don't understand. Djinn exist today and there is proof of their existence.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
That's not true at all. Djinn are a race of creation pre-existing men. There are good and bad Djinn. "Satan" or Iblis was one of those creations. What elevated him to become satan was his objection to bowing down to the creation of man when God told them to bow down.

He then came back with a challenge to corrupt mankind.

But the true essence is balance. Good must need bad to exist in order for balance to occur. Just like night follows day - both are complementary and necessary.



I don't understand. Djinn exist today and there is proof of their existence.
Ok so if Iblis is necessary for balance, why is it his fault?
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
That's not true at all. Djinn are a race of creation pre-existing men. There are good and bad Djinn. "Satan" or Iblis was one of those creations. What elevated him to become satan was his objection to bowing down to the creation of man when God told them to bow down.

He then came back with a challenge to corrupt mankind.

But the true essence is balance. Good must need bad to exist in order for balance to occur. Just like night follows day - both are complementary and necessary.



I don't understand. Djinn exist today and there is proof of their existence.
I have read all the ibrahimic books and the quraan specially 9 times due to a thesis i was doing/working on .... the djin are the bad individuals of satan/devil/iblis/shaytan. I can get u the verse if u want.

And theres no such thing as true balance...theres good and theres bad. Period



And on a seperate note..u gained weight... 10,12 pounds?? Tits and hips are hnngggg...u gave birth??? Ur husband must be on cloud #9

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Copied this from an older thread but itโ€™s worth sharing. In short, yes.

When I was a kid I would see ghosts in my bedroom and other rooms I slept in. I don't remember any faces or anything, just the shadows of these spirits and sometimes outlines of them floating around the room. I would see them almost every single night.

The creepiest was the shadow man who stood on a ladder. He would be in the hallway outside of my room fixing something on the ceiling, patching a hole or some chit. He looked like this but with a an old style suit and hat on:



One night while he was working on his ladder, a bunch of ghost bats flew out of that hole and into my room and just started flying around dead srs. Creepy chit. Thank god I don't see any of that anymore.

Also my grandmother is VERY in touch with the supernatural world. Sheโ€™s told me things like her father visiting her when he died. If not for knowing and trusting her word, I would think 90% of paranormal experiences are a bunch of horse chit. But hereโ€™s another good one: my momโ€™s father abandoned her as a child. One night many years ago both my mother and grandmother started having recurring dreams of a woman scolding them for not reaching out to him to reconnect. They decided to Google him out of curiosity and found his obituary. He died the night the dreams started.
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Originally Posted By Km2019
Any good stories? Has anything happened to you that you can't explain? I've had some ****ed up things happen that there are no explanations for.
Love the idea of the existence of this chit. But there's never any evidence for it.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
That's not true at all. Djinn are a race of creation pre-existing men. There are good and bad Djinn. "Satan" or Iblis was one of those creations. What elevated him to become satan was his objection to bowing down to the creation of man when God told them to bow down.

He then came back with a challenge to corrupt mankind.

But the true essence is balance. Good must need bad to exist in order for balance to occur. Just like night follows day - both are complementary and necessary.



I don't understand. Djinn exist today and there is proof of their existence.
Listen to yourself. It's 2021. Time to grow up!

"I believe there's a magical lamp out there I can rub and the genie will give me three wishes!" Imagine actually believing that. You'd think they were mad.

Where is the proof of Djinn's existence, please?
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Originally Posted By Km2019
Ok so if Iblis is necessary for balance, why is it his fault?
Bad would have existed rather or not Iblis vowed to corrupt mankind. I'm not sure it is. The Qur'an says God forgives. There's a possibility he will be forgiven even before you or I are. Who knows. I don't speculate on God's reasonings or justice.

All I know is everything on Earth has a balance. Having good without evil would be an imbalance that doesn't match this planet's objective.
Originally Posted By MEDITATE
I have read all the ibrahimic books and the quraan specially 9 times due to a thesis i was doing/working on .... the djin are the bad individuals of satan/devil/iblis/shaytan. I can get u the verse if u want.

And theres no such thing as true balance...theres good and theres bad. Period
Lol, and I can find verses from the Qur'an that state the opposite.
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And on a seperate note..u gained weight... 10,12 pounds?? Tits and hips are hnngggg...u gave birth??? Ur husband must be on cloud #9
Yea, I'm a fatty.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
Bad would have existed rather or not Iblis vowed to corrupt mankind. I'm not sure it is. The Qur'an says God forgives. There's a possibility he will be forgiven even before you or I are. Who knows. I don't speculate on God's reasonings or justice.

All I know is everything on Earth has a balance. Having good without evil would be an imbalance that doesn't match this planet's objective.



Lol, and I can find verses from the Qur'an that state the opposite.



Yea, I'm a fatty.
Post ur verses so i could refute them..... cause im sure ur wrong....post them in any language you feel comfortable with....im pentalingual i understand arabic.

ur thiccc just about right but a couple more pounds and itll suck.... time to off that vacation weight :-)
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Originally Posted By Km2019
I'll tell a few things that happened to me and we'll see what people think could explain it.

First one:

One time I went to stay at my dad's house when he didn't live there. He took a job in another part of the country, so his house was sitting empty for most of the year. His house is in a rural area near the mountains and forest. I thought I'd go stay there for a night or two to just make sure everything was ok with the house and what not.

It was June or July. I got there around 7pm and just went inside and watched TV or movies or something. After it got dark, I decided to got to bed and figured I'd take a shower before hand. While I was in the shower, the power went out. That freaked me out kind of, but I didn't think much of it. I turned the shower off and fumbled my way out of the shower and into the bedroom. With it being in a remote area, it was pitch black and I couldn't see anything - there's no street lights, other houses, or anything.

So I climbed into bed and went to sleep. After a few hours, I wake up for seemingly no reason. The power is still out. I check my phone and it has no reception. It's just before 3am. I had the bedroom window open to let in air. All of a sudden I start to hear what sounds like a group of people laughing and talking and stuff from outside. I can't make anything out because it sounds close, but muffled at the same time. I start trying to think of why anyone would be here and who it could be. I quietly look out the window and I can't see anything and once I get to the window the noise stops. I sneak back to the bed and try to think of what I should do.

The noise starts up again, and it starts alternating between sounding close and far away. This goes on for a few more minutes and then I hear loud banging coming from inside the house, out in the the hall/entrance area by the living room. I had the bedroom door closed and locked because the power being out had me on edge to begin with. The noise outside has now stopped. I hear the banging again - 3 loud bangs, like someone is slapping the half wall by the stairs as if they were trying to get someone's attention. Like a knocking tempo, but really loud. By now I know something is ****ed up because I locked and deadbolted all the doors and all the rest of the windows in the house are closed and locked. The banging happens one more time and I don't know what to do, so I just throw the blankets over my head and lay there. There is no way I'm going out into the hallway to see what it is. My plan is that if something/someone comes in, I will attack, but otherwise just stay put. Eventually I fall back asleep. I wake up and the sun is rising and I can hear birds chirping.

The power is back on and I unlock the bedroom door. When I head into the hallway, I notice that all the pictures on the walls are now on the floor. None of them are smashed or broken - they are all just on the floor, leaned up against the walls. All of them are like this - in the hallway, the living room, the kitchen. I check the doors and they are still deadbolted and locked. All the windows are still shut. I go outside to check things out and nothing is out of the ordinary. The garage is still locked and my car is normal. Now I just want to GTFO, so I go back inside to clean up before I leave.

When I told this to my dad, I could tell he was scared, but he didn't want to let on. He started trying to say that the sounds outside was coyotes and that maybe I had the windows open and a breeze blew the pictures down. I told him there was no way that's what it was - I know what coyotes sound like, and all the windows were closed and that doesn't explain the banging and how the pictures weren't broken. Then he started saying maybe I dreamt the other stuff and took the pictures down myself and don't remember. I tell him what he's saying is ridiculous and he can tell himself whatever he wants to make himself feel better.
From that story it sounds like someone broke into the house. Maybe a bunch of trouble-making kids thought it was abandoned and broke in.
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Post ur verses so i could refute them..... cause im sure ur wrong....post them in any language you feel comfortable with....im pentalingual i understand arabic.

ur thiccc just about right but a couple more pounds and itll suck.... time to off that vacation weight :-)
How did you become pentalingual? Other than actually studying all the languages of course
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How did you become pentalingual? Other than actually studying all the languages of course
Parents are part german / french- American...arabic and aramiac i studied and learned in college " i did a double major ...computer science/ psychiatric theology in the arab world.. the later i travelled to few middle eastern countries for my thesis
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
No, I don't.

But I believe in Djinn, creation by God created from fire which pre-existed man and still exist. They're able to take many forms and can trick people to think their dead loved ones are roaming the earth which is not possible.
What makes you believe Djninn are real? Me personally, I've never seen or experienced anything supernatural. Not ghosts or demons or anything at all. I'm an atheist. I would have to see or experience it myself in order to believe it's real.

I remember reading a story a long time ago about some haunted place in Iraq that had Djinn there, I can't remember the story though.
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Originally Posted By Briangumble
From that story it sounds like someone broke into the house. Maybe a bunch of trouble-making kids thought it was abandoned and broke in.
The doors and windows were all still locked in the morning. The doors were still deadbolted. Even if someone had a key, they could lock the doors when they left, but not the deadbolts. Those can only be done from the inside.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
Parents are part german / french- American...arabic and aramiac i studied and learned in college " i did a double major ...computer science/ psychiatric theology in the arab world.. the later i travelled to few middle eastern countries for my thesis
Mirin. Did you only travel to the middle eastern countries in Asia or did you visit the "arabic" countries in North Africa?

I am currently studying a fourth language (french) on my own. If it goes well, I will probably tackle a fifth. It's just a hobby sort of
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Originally Posted By felixthedog
the pictures were already down when you got there you just didnt notice.
I've known that house since I was a kid. There is no way I wouldn't have noticed. Just impossible. There are pictures at the top of the stairs, in the living room, in the kitchen, and down the hallways. I was in the house for 4-5 hours before the power went out while I was in the shower.
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Yes, I have seen two people astral project in real life (srs). Like the confronted the 'demons' in their subconscious and made them conscious

There is definitely evil shadow to every human that can be integrated, most people are just oblivious and not awake to their full being
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Originally Posted By Celsus
Mirin. Did you only travel to the middle eastern countries in Asia or did you visit the "arabic" countries in North Africa?

I am currently studying a fourth language (french) on my own. If it goes well, I will probably tackle a fifth. It's just a hobby sort of
No, never been to africa... no need to... the arab speaking countries are 3 with different dialects ..the other "muslim" countries are what you call a monophyly . Been to malta though... arabic is a sub combination language ...a monophyl to.

What languages do you speak? Which one will you be learning?
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