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Black holes
What is your understanding of what a black hole is?
What is a black hole? It’s a magnetic torus. Well, a magnetic torus is what? A big doughnut. That actually has two openings. North and south. And the field that is surrounding. You see quasars too. That same field is also replicated with smaller size bodies, people’s bodies, human bodies. The planet has a torus around it. And guess what? Right in the middle is what? The central force. That’s spinning. And basically, the core shoot their energy up and outwards, basically it goes in and out. One goes up and one goes down, right? But then, you see, it actually, because the torus, it goes both up and down, so what happens if it goes a full circle inside? Its going to spin something in the middle isn’t it? It spins up and outwards and inside, around the flow of itself. It’s a dynamo. But when it spins, that will, then the field will spin up, you know, in the spin, then there has to be a core central force in the middle there.
So just think of it. You draw a doughnut, then you do it sideways. And divide them up. What do you get? You get a central circle. Then you get two circles that match. You know what a torus is, right? What kind of movement can that doughnut make? It spins, not just spinning. It spins, but how many directions? If you draw it as a cross section, like say you look at it sideways, then you cut it down the middle, not flat. Sideways. What kind of shape do you get? You get two circles. If you cut a down right down the middle, you slice a doughnut in half, you cut at the cross section, you get two big ass circles. Then you draw a core in the middle. Between those two circles where they pass through.
What would a 3D torus look like? It would look something like an hour glass. That hole in the middle looks like an hour glass, isn’t it? Now draw a couple of those that goes from the top to the bottom in that curve, and from the bottom to the top of that curve. What do you think that movement will create on both sides? It will produce a spiral. That actually will shoot up and down while spinning whatever it is that is circular in the middle. Does that make sense to you? So you see, inside of the center of a torus, with all those energies flowing back and forth, up and down, things like that, while its also spinning sideways. Like the disc side. It is just a massive amount of an electrical field. In which case, when its doing that, its flowing both in and out, that’s the thing. And then, if you cut it sideways, you get the disc. Get it?
See, that’s why its such high energy, that the actual current of the field that is the torus itself fades its outer most, in which case, squashes whatever it is at its center that acts as the medium. You know, the point of movement, and squashes it together, while at the same time, draws the electrical current both north and south to shoot out, while at the same time, spins it with like an inertia where it produces a disc. Its like a spinning disc that goes sideways and in and out and all kinds of directions. If you see what a quasar looks like, in which case, is what? In which case, it is actually nothing more than a disc with a center with a big fat ball in the middle, shooting two beams both north and south. That is what a torus will do. That is also what your alternator will do. It produces an electric circuit. Same movement of the electricity.
So what is the electric field? It is electromagnetic. That is why the electric universe theory guys are onto something. They keep things so damn simple. Michael Faraday studied electromagnetics and made faraday cages, we are using his stuff, but we are actually discounting some of his ideas of cosmology. That electric force, but next thing you know, the thing goes is that they keep making gravity too big. Making gravity too important and not understanding that gravity is part of the electromagnetic effect. Because the way how you say that gravity only pulls things together instead of balancing itself in duality by pushing and pulling, that means you got it wrong. Because, if everything is moved by gravity, **** is going to fall apart. It would just coalesce into a simple ball. And not only that, think of this universe as a combustion engine, you freaking serious?
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What is a black hole? It’s a magnetic torus. Well, a magnetic torus is what? A big doughnut. That actually has two openings. North and south. And the field that is surrounding. You see quasars too. That same field is also replicated with smaller size bodies, people’s bodies, human bodies. The planet has a torus around it. And guess what? Right in the middle is what? The central force. That’s spinning. And basically, the core shoot their energy up and outwards, basically it goes in and out. One goes up and one goes down, right? But then, you see, it actually, because the torus, it goes both up and down, so what happens if it goes a full circle inside? Its going to spin something in the middle isn’t it? It spins up and outwards and inside, around the flow of itself. It’s a dynamo. But when it spins, that will, then the field will spin up, you know, in the spin, then there has to be a core central force in the middle there.
So just think of it. You draw a doughnut, then you do it sideways. And divide them up. What do you get? You get a central circle. Then you get two circles that match. You know what a torus is, right? What kind of movement can that doughnut make? It spins, not just spinning. It spins, but how many directions? If you draw it as a cross section, like say you look at it sideways, then you cut it down the middle, not flat. Sideways. What kind of shape do you get? You get two circles. If you cut a down right down the middle, you slice a doughnut in half, you cut at the cross section, you get two big ass circles. Then you draw a core in the middle. Between those two circles where they pass through.
What would a 3D torus look like? It would look something like an hour glass. That hole in the middle looks like an hour glass, isn’t it? Now draw a couple of those that goes from the top to the bottom in that curve, and from the bottom to the top of that curve. What do you think that movement will create on both sides? It will produce a spiral. That actually will shoot up and down while spinning whatever it is that is circular in the middle. Does that make sense to you? So you see, inside of the center of a torus, with all those energies flowing back and forth, up and down, things like that, while its also spinning sideways. Like the disc side. It is just a massive amount of an electrical field. In which case, when its doing that, its flowing both in and out, that’s the thing. And then, if you cut it sideways, you get the disc. Get it?
See, that’s why its such high energy, that the actual current of the field that is the torus itself fades its outer most, in which case, squashes whatever it is at its center that acts as the medium. You know, the point of movement, and squashes it together, while at the same time, draws the electrical current both north and south to shoot out, while at the same time, spins it with like an inertia where it produces a disc. Its like a spinning disc that goes sideways and in and out and all kinds of directions. If you see what a quasar looks like, in which case, is what? In which case, it is actually nothing more than a disc with a center with a big fat ball in the middle, shooting two beams both north and south. That is what a torus will do. That is also what your alternator will do. It produces an electric circuit. Same movement of the electricity.
So what is the electric field? It is electromagnetic. That is why the electric universe theory guys are onto something. They keep things so damn simple. Michael Faraday studied electromagnetics and made faraday cages, we are using his stuff, but we are actually discounting some of his ideas of cosmology. That electric force, but next thing you know, the thing goes is that they keep making gravity too big. Making gravity too important and not understanding that gravity is part of the electromagnetic effect. Because the way how you say that gravity only pulls things together instead of balancing itself in duality by pushing and pulling, that means you got it wrong. Because, if everything is moved by gravity, **** is going to fall apart. It would just coalesce into a simple ball. And not only that, think of this universe as a combustion engine, you freaking serious?
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This universe is magnetic, first and foremost. Everything comes from the magnetic forces. That is why attraction is like gravity. It draws things to it. And yet at the same time, you shift that polarity, its circuit changes, and it will repel. That is why electric anomalies in different places mean portals everywhere. You see, the interesting thing is that, the electric effect comes along with the whole plasma aspect. So there is plasma science, that the current science is not really caring about. The sun itself is electric. Its actually easier to think of it that way. Does that mean that the intelligence of consciousness pushes those electric forces or moves those forces? Well, just think about your own brain and how it works. Its electrochemicals.
You go and take a look of images on your computer of quasars and such. Stuff that shoots the beams. See the disc, then you superimpose a doughnut there. A really big one. Then it goes from a five disc to a multidimensional toroid. That goes to show how big the scale of that circuit actually is. Its gigantic. But directly inside is actually a plasmoid body that’s been squashed together, a plasmoid. Meaning its not really a black hole. Instead, inside that center is actually part of the core, in which case, is a plasmoid body. And then the stars that actually swing around it because of the movement of the energy current. Within the hourglass of that torus, you get it? Next thing you know, when its feeding off the gases and such, it shoots the energy because those gasses become ionically charged, electrically charged, when they become electrically charged, they act like lightning bolts, where it gets shot out as a plasma beam.
In which case, when that energy gets released, you get x-rays and you get gamma rays and all that ****. Because when you turn on electricity and turn it into light, doesn’t that produce light? Electricity produces light, radiation, heat, all kinds of other stuff. What is The All? It is all that is and everything between. More so everything in between, meaning the energy between all the particles that is there as that energy. The All is also the electric force as well. All the forces in between. The All is the atom, and the forces in between them. See, do you think the atom came first or the force came first? The force, so if your atom is born from a torus for example, doesn’t that mean The All with it's energy, it's unseen hand, produces that little torus, and next thing you know, it gathers up space, and turns space into particles. And those particles then became more apparent.
When those particles became more apparent and became matter, it became thicker and thicker, and guess what? It got a frequency, that frequency means what? A spin. The spin is actually a frequency. Its an oscillation, something like an oscillation. So therefore if you actually take a little bleep of light and all the things that naturally happen in the universe, you only get three things. You get a spiral, an ellipsoid, and an irregular shape. The three shapes of the galaxies. In which case is what? That’s how that works, that’s how the electric currents actually work. The problem with black holes is that why you cant see them is because they actually don’t exist. It’s the field of that toroidal energy, that plasmoid, it doesn’t shine.
Its like trying to see the electric field. Can you ever see the electric field? No. You can measure it, its gonna be really dang close to measure it. You can visualize the structure but not see it with your physical eyes. But when its actually interacting with things, then you're getting lightning bolts, the plasma. And therefore it starts shining. You measure its effect when it interacts with something else and produces light. But before any of that, all it is just potential ready and waiting for something to activate. Its just waiting to be moved and expressed. Therefore your thought is like that current or actually your soul is like that current and all it takes is just your thought to activate the interaction. And that releases different chemicals in the brain producing different feelings. How do you think the ancients knew some of this stuff? Its because they understood its spiritual touch. So they understand that they are electric by nature.
This universe is magnetic, first and foremost. Everything comes from the magnetic forces. That is why attraction is like gravity. It draws things to it. And yet at the same time, you shift that polarity, its circuit changes, and it will repel. That is why electric anomalies in different places mean portals everywhere. You see, the interesting thing is that, the electric effect comes along with the whole plasma aspect. So there is plasma science, that the current science is not really caring about. The sun itself is electric. Its actually easier to think of it that way. Does that mean that the intelligence of consciousness pushes those electric forces or moves those forces? Well, just think about your own brain and how it works. Its electrochemicals.
You go and take a look of images on your computer of quasars and such. Stuff that shoots the beams. See the disc, then you superimpose a doughnut there. A really big one. Then it goes from a five disc to a multidimensional toroid. That goes to show how big the scale of that circuit actually is. Its gigantic. But directly inside is actually a plasmoid body that’s been squashed together, a plasmoid. Meaning its not really a black hole. Instead, inside that center is actually part of the core, in which case, is a plasmoid body. And then the stars that actually swing around it because of the movement of the energy current. Within the hourglass of that torus, you get it? Next thing you know, when its feeding off the gases and such, it shoots the energy because those gasses become ionically charged, electrically charged, when they become electrically charged, they act like lightning bolts, where it gets shot out as a plasma beam.
In which case, when that energy gets released, you get x-rays and you get gamma rays and all that ****. Because when you turn on electricity and turn it into light, doesn’t that produce light? Electricity produces light, radiation, heat, all kinds of other stuff. What is The All? It is all that is and everything between. More so everything in between, meaning the energy between all the particles that is there as that energy. The All is also the electric force as well. All the forces in between. The All is the atom, and the forces in between them. See, do you think the atom came first or the force came first? The force, so if your atom is born from a torus for example, doesn’t that mean The All with it's energy, it's unseen hand, produces that little torus, and next thing you know, it gathers up space, and turns space into particles. And those particles then became more apparent.
When those particles became more apparent and became matter, it became thicker and thicker, and guess what? It got a frequency, that frequency means what? A spin. The spin is actually a frequency. Its an oscillation, something like an oscillation. So therefore if you actually take a little bleep of light and all the things that naturally happen in the universe, you only get three things. You get a spiral, an ellipsoid, and an irregular shape. The three shapes of the galaxies. In which case is what? That’s how that works, that’s how the electric currents actually work. The problem with black holes is that why you cant see them is because they actually don’t exist. It’s the field of that toroidal energy, that plasmoid, it doesn’t shine.
Its like trying to see the electric field. Can you ever see the electric field? No. You can measure it, its gonna be really dang close to measure it. You can visualize the structure but not see it with your physical eyes. But when its actually interacting with things, then you're getting lightning bolts, the plasma. And therefore it starts shining. You measure its effect when it interacts with something else and produces light. But before any of that, all it is just potential ready and waiting for something to activate. Its just waiting to be moved and expressed. Therefore your thought is like that current or actually your soul is like that current and all it takes is just your thought to activate the interaction. And that releases different chemicals in the brain producing different feelings. How do you think the ancients knew some of this stuff? Its because they understood its spiritual touch. So they understand that they are electric by nature.
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Its been a while since I have seen anyone talking about this theory. It does not have much support because it doesn't make any sense.
A black hole isn't magic or special. Its just a region of space where the collapse of space-time exceeds the speed of light.
A black hole isn't magic or special. Its just a region of space where the collapse of space-time exceeds the speed of light.
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Originally Posted By Gt3x24x7⏩
Jakes on you *******.Its because you are stupid. You're not showing me intelligence. Intelligence is there, but the million dollar question. Why aren't you using it?
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Lol not a single serious physics or astronomy brah present in the thread yet. I even gave western textbook format examples with concepts! C'mon, man! Showing you guys a glimpse of the knowledge of physics and chemistry that the ancient and modern Hermetic masters know! There's got to be some souls here who are not this dumb or dim!
01-12-2021, 09:42 PM
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Here's your serious physics response. You're dumb and wrong. Pick up a copy of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler's Gravitation. But don't read it. Take it and bash yourself in the head with it until you lose the ability to post.
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Originally Posted By Gt3x24x7⏩
Stupid doesn't mean lack of intelligence, brainiac. Stupid means slow learner, ignorance would be closer to the word you were looking for.Its because you are stupid. You're not showing me intelligence. Intelligence is there, but the million dollar question. Why aren't you using it?
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Originally Posted By Kawhilights⏩
So a stupid person could be very smart over time? Smart, but still stupid? What a time to be alive.Stupid doesn't mean lack of intelligence, brainiac. Stupid means slow learner, ignorance would be closer to the word you were looking for.
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Interesting perspective, good post. Question also: what factors come into play when determining the force came before the atom?
To answer the original question, Leonard Susskind successfully won me over with his arguments described in his "The Black Hole War" book.
To answer the original question, Leonard Susskind successfully won me over with his arguments described in his "The Black Hole War" book.
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This is what I meant when I said to draw it on paper with yourself in the middle and described the movements. Same field as black holes, galaxies, stars, planets, and you.


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I’m sitting on the pot and can’t stop laughing. My chicks thinking I’ve gone nuts lmfaoHere's your serious physics response. You're dumb and wrong. Pick up a copy of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler's Gravitation. But don't read it. Take it and bash yourself in the head with it until you lose the ability to post.
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Originally Posted By TryingBB⏩
I’m sitting on the pot and can’t stop laughing. My chicks thinking I’ve gone nuts lmfao
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This wtf
Why are these learned threads allowed on the misc?
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Originally Posted By Rattelsnake⏩
Interesting perspective, good post. Question also: what factors come into play when determining the force came before the atom?
To answer the original question, Leonard Susskind successfully won me over with his arguments described in his "The Black Hole War" book.
To answer the original question, Leonard Susskind successfully won me over with his arguments described in his "The Black Hole War" book.
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Didn't read, but a black hole is a point in spacetime where gravity overwhelms all other forces to the extent that they don't exist there.
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All you guys are doing is just showing me, the internet and the world that your attention spans and mental capabilities are like that of a fly's. Constantly buzzing and landing on whatever tiny little thing that interests you. You can't even direct your own focus and attention into doing a short few minutes long reading on a physics concept. Of course you're not going to recognize anything I post. Let alone even understand what the **** I am talking about. lolPrefer this explanation
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Originally Posted By Gt3x24x7⏩
Ok Sheldon. Can I sit in your spot now?All you guys are doing is just showing me, the internet and the world that your attention spans and mental capabilities are like that of a fly's. Constantly buzzing and landing on whatever tiny little thing that interests you. You can't even direct your own focus and attention into doing a short few minutes long reading on a physics concept. Of course you're not going to recognize anything I post. Let alone even understand what the **** I am talking about. lol
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Originally Posted By Gt3x24x7⏩
It's fine looking at your drawings. I see you put yourself as observer in the middle, so this is consistent with the observer-induced collapse of the wave function. However, if what you drew is what you see as the full probability distribution, the act of observation causes the set of probabilities to reduce to only one of those possible values. This explains why many different observations of the same event seem radically different according to the observer. Such as two blind guys feeling an elephant, one feels the trunk, the other feels the leg. They're convinced it's not the same animal, but in reality it is, they only have a limited snapshot (limited wave-collapse) of the bigger picture.This is what I meant when I said to draw it on paper with yourself in the middle and described the movements. Same field as black holes, galaxies, stars, planets, and you.


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Originally Posted By Rattelsnake⏩
OMG. Can you people refrain from commenting on physics pls? Macroscopic observations like those of feeling an elephant have dick to do with wavefunction collapses. A fuking elephant is not a quantum particle. At those scales, there is virtually no uncertainty in the "state" of the elephant. The reason one feels a trunk and the other feels a leg is they are feeling different parts of the fuking elephant.It's fine looking at your drawings. I see you put yourself as observer in the middle, so this is consistent with the observer-induced collapse of the wave function. However, if what you drew is what you see as the full probability distribution, the act of observation causes the set of probabilities to reduce to only one of those possible values. This explains why many different observations of the same event seem radically different according to the observer. Such as two blind guys feeling an elephant, one feels the trunk, the other feels the leg. They're convinced it's not the same animal, but in reality it is, they only have a limited snapshot (limited wave-collapse) of the bigger picture.
Also that drawing looks like Dr. Strange concept art.
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