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post 1628871393 01-17-2021, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
I'd go $20 definitely if assigned just wheel it. I have 1500 commons of IPOE at 17.90 thinking it goes for a run, will trim 500 shares if it moons and hold the other 1k for long.

Hoping CCIV hits it big and gives me some massive put selling power
What’s the hype around IPOE?
I’ve had it on my watchlist for a week but haven’t bought any.

But seeing a lot of talk on it.
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post 1628871903 01-17-2021, 03:07 PM
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I've been running numbers today for the scenario of selling my house and moving into a rented apartment. I have 100% equity in my house, so I'd have ~550k available in my brokerage account if I sold it. I make low 6 figures in my job, but don't intend for doing it the next 20 years. Even if I can do half as well in the market with 550k as I've been doing with 100k, I'd be making some serious money when combined with my day job.

I'm struggling with making such a big move though. Got a nice house, right next to parents, and don't have to worry about a mortgage. At the same time, I feel like if I don't ever take any additional risks, that I'll be continuing to slave away in my 9-5 for the next 25 years.
post 1628878983 01-17-2021, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted By FL_Z32⏩
I've been running numbers today for the scenario of selling my house and moving into a rented apartment. I have 100% equity in my house, so I'd have ~550k available in my brokerage account if I sold it. I make low 6 figures in my job, but don't intend for doing it the next 20 years. Even if I can do half as well in the market with 550k as I've been doing with 100k, I'd be making some serious money when combined with my day job.

I'm struggling with making such a big move though. Got a nice house, right next to parents, and don't have to worry about a mortgage. At the same time, I feel like if I don't ever take any additional risks, that I'll be continuing to slave away in my 9-5 for the next 25 years.
I think there’s many opportunities for you to be successful and make more trading.

ESP with strategies like selling calls and such that I see here. And OptimusPrime11 does it full time.

I think with 550k you’d be able to make solid income to support for needs as you build up. I dread working for a corporation for the next 40
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post 1628879073 01-17-2021, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By FL_Z32⏩
I've been running numbers today for the scenario of selling my house and moving into a rented apartment. I have 100% equity in my house, so I'd have ~550k available in my brokerage account if I sold it. I make low 6 figures in my job, but don't intend for doing it the next 20 years. Even if I can do half as well in the market with 550k as I've been doing with 100k, I'd be making some serious money when combined with my day job.

I'm struggling with making such a big move though. Got a nice house, right next to parents, and don't have to worry about a mortgage. At the same time, I feel like if I don't ever take any additional risks, that I'll be continuing to slave away in my 9-5 for the next 25 years.
Interest rates are extremely low bro 2.5%. Keep your house take out a home equity loan (tax free money). Invest that money in the market or buy a rental. Take advantage of those rates while they last. Free money
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post 1628879703 01-17-2021, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Travis99⏩
Interest rates are extremely low bro 2.5%. Keep your house take out a home equity loan (tax free money). Invest that money in the market or buy a rental. Take advantage of those rates while they last. Free money
Heads up, you won’t be getting a cash out refi anywhere near 2.5%
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post 1628887303 01-17-2021, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Heads up, you won’t be getting a cash out refi anywhere near 2.5%
My neighbor just got his home refinanced for 2.2% at 30 years.
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post 1628890903 01-17-2021, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By FL_Z32⏩
I've been running numbers today for the scenario of selling my house and moving into a rented apartment. I have 100% equity in my house, so I'd have ~550k available in my brokerage account if I sold it. I make low 6 figures in my job, but don't intend for doing it the next 20 years. Even if I can do half as well in the market with 550k as I've been doing with 100k, I'd be making some serious money when combined with my day job.

I'm struggling with making such a big move though. Got a nice house, right next to parents, and don't have to worry about a mortgage. At the same time, I feel like if I don't ever take any additional risks, that I'll be continuing to slave away in my 9-5 for the next 25 years.
There’s no benefit to having a paid off mortgage if you have the cashflow to support paying one, might as well see what rate you can refinance at and put that equity into stocks IMO
post 1628892073 01-17-2021, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted By _zman⏩
My neighbor just got his home refinanced for 2.2% at 30 years.
Ah cool. You should read up on the differences between a cash out refi and a refi. Good luck!
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There’s no benefit to having a paid off mortgage if you have the cashflow to support paying one, might as well see what rate you can refinance at and put that equity into stocks IMO
100% this. Cash out refis are around 3.5% if you’re lucky but let’s say even 4%. If you can’t meet or beat 4% in some other investment, I got some bad news. Even boring ass VOO averages nearly double that.

Paying chit off early only makes sense if your interest rate exceeds your potential ROI
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post 1628893723 01-17-2021, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Lb54TG⏩
This is some solid DD on GME.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetb...tm_name=iossmf

Feeling good about my 222 shares.

Hiyooo you still in on this?
That's one of the best DD threads I've ever seen on WSB lol. My money is tied in a bunch of other places otherwise I would have tossed some money at it.
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post 1628894493 01-17-2021, 06:41 PM
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What are us plebs supposed to do during a closed market tomorrow, work or something?
post 1628895053 01-17-2021, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
100% this. Cash out refis are around 3.5% if you’re lucky but let’s say even 4%. If you can’t meet or beat 4% in some other investment, I got some bad news. Even boring ass VOO averages nearly double that.

Paying chit off early only makes sense if your interest rate exceeds your potential ROI
What you're saying makes complete sense when you look at it purely from a mathematical perspective. However, there's something to be said about being truly debt free and the sense of security that comes with that. I didn't owe too much on my mortgage in the first place, so it wasn't a big deal to just be done with it completely.
post 1628896423 01-17-2021, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted By FL_Z32⏩
What you're saying makes complete sense when you look at itpurely from a mathematical perspective. However, there's something to be said about being truly debt free and the sense of security that comes with that. I didn't owe too much on my mortgage in the first place, so it wasn't a big deal to just be done with it completely.
And here we are in an investing thread ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I’m gonna go all logical again and say if you do a cash out at 4% and can make 7% on ETFs but for some reason that’s stressing you out, you can always just pay it all off at any point in time.

If you have money or access to money, it’s foolish to not make it work FOR you.
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post 1628900013 01-17-2021, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
What are us plebs supposed to do during a closed market tomorrow, work or something?
my pleb company doesn't give us a holiday tomorrow, so I will be working
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post 1628900613 01-17-2021, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
my pleb company doesn't give us a holiday tomorrow, so I will be working
Not a holiday up here in Canuckistan. Surprising the SJWs up here havent called it racist that we don't acknowledge it.
post 1628906513 01-17-2021, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Travis99⏩
Interest rates are extremely low bro 2.5%. Keep your house take out a home equity loan (tax free money). Invest that money in the market or buy a rental. Take advantage of those rates while they last. Free money
This.

Property is a strategic asset cause long term it goes up in value, provides a yeild in the form of rent and you can borrow against it at super low rates cause its a relatively stable asset.
post 1628906693 01-17-2021, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
And here we are in an investing thread ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I’m gonna go all logical again and say if you do a cash out at 4% and can make 7% on ETFs but for some reason that’s stressing you out, you can always just pay it all off at any point in time.

If you have money or access to money, it’s foolish to not make it work FOR you.
We are in an investing thread, which is why it would be retarded to not take risk tolerance into consideration when making financial decisions. You're assuming that an ETF that has an average return of 7% annually is a sure thing. Granted, the odds are dramatically in your favor for that average of 7% to continue, but there's always some element of risk when buying into anything on the market.

Lets say I leverage my home equity for a loan, then I get laid off from my job and then we have another March crash. I'd be pretty f*cked. Again, I realize the odds are against me for that to happen, but you're acting like it could never happen.
post 1628908163 01-17-2021, 09:09 PM
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FL_Z32 my vote is keep the paid off house and just invest 100% of your disposable income from your job but change your attitude toward work (especially if you do not like your job) nothing better then knowing you can quit anytime you want knowing you got a place to live and can probably pay the property tax with min wage job lol. or just downgrade to a cheaper house paid for?
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post 1628908703 01-17-2021, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By FL_Z32⏩
We are in an investing thread, which is why it would be retarded to not take risk tolerance into consideration when making financial decisions. You're assuming that an ETF that has an average return of 7% annually is a sure thing. Granted, the odds are dramatically in your favor for that average of 7% to continue, but there's always some element of risk when buying into anything on the market.

Lets say I leverage my home equity for a loan, then I get laid off from my job and then we have another March crash. I'd be pretty f*cked. Again, I realize the odds are against me for that to happen, but you're acting like it could never happen.
Nah you’re right. Just sit on cash and don’t make it work for you.
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post 1628909113 01-17-2021, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Nah you’re right. Just sit on cash and don’t make it work for you.
Investing 101
Dude I feel like you're missing my point entirely.
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Originally Posted By SipNPiz⏩
FL_Z32 my vote is keep the paid off house and just invest 100% of your disposable income from your job but change your attitude toward work (especially if you do not like your job) nothing better then knowing you can quit anytime you want knowing you got a place to live and can probably pay the property tax with min wage job lol. or just downgrade to a cheaper house paid for?
Honestly, that's my inclination.
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Dumb question - I wasn't invested in the market (beyond 401k) in March of last year. Did every single stock just plummet instantly?

If tomorrow we have a similar crash (for example purposes, I know market is closed) and I'm staring at my portfolio, will I be able to react quickly enough to close all my positions (I only hold a few)?
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post 1628909253 01-17-2021, 09:19 PM
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A lot of people fail to realize how expensive some benefits are particularly health insurance. Then there's the HSA/401k match which I think ended up being like $13k for me.

@tug everything insta sold off at open. What do you think you could react to in time? When markets open -5% are you gonna sell or hold and hope?
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post 1628910213 01-17-2021, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
A lot of people fail to realize how expensive some benefits are particularly health insurance. Then there's the HSA/401k match which I think ended up being like $13k for me.

@tug everything insta sold off at open. What do you think you could react to in time? When markets open -5% are you gonna sell or hold and hope?
So even SPACS got sold off? I only hold BFT, GHIV, CCIV, and PLTR right now. I can understand PLTR selling off immediately, but you're saying even smaller stocks like the SPACs go through the same thing?

If so then it seems like the only way to avoid a crash is to either not invest, or just day trade. That sucks. An older acquaintance of mine was telling me how in a previous crash, he knew of traders who lost 80% of their portfolio overnight.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
So even SPACS got sold off? I only hold BFT, GHIV, CCIV, and PLTR right now. I can understand PLTR selling off immediately, but you're saying even smaller stocks like the SPACs go through the same thing?

If so then it seems like the only way to avoid a crash is to either not invest, or just day trade. That sucks. An older acquaintance of mine was telling me how in a previous crash, he knew of traders who lost 80% of their portfolio overnight.
No. Spacs especially near NAV typically have kinda pumped as a "safe haven". Others like BFT or GHIV drop too, but not as hard as overall markets typically, but that could change
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Why you think IPOE moons harder?

Sofi primarily refinances student loans... imo their bread and butter has probably gotten crushed with student loan forbearance extended to infinity. I'd be scared to own it right now. How much further you think it can pump?
They're a broker. So they do a lot. They have a really nice clean app. They advertise an f load in the u.s.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
So even SPACS got sold off? I only hold BFT, GHIV, CCIV, and PLTR right now. I can understand PLTR selling off immediately, but you're saying even smaller stocks like the SPACs go through the same thing?

If so then it seems like the only way to avoid a crash is to either not invest, or just day trade. That sucks. An older acquaintance of mine was telling me how in a previous crash, he knew of traders who lost 80% of their portfolio overnight.
Were they from WSB? Must have been jacked to the tits on some sick 30% OTM weeklies
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
No. Spacs especially near NAV typically have kinda pumped as a "safe haven". Others like BFT or GHIV drop too, but not as hard as overall markets typically, but that could change
Absolutely incorrect. The whole market in March sold off. I was there. Nothing was immune from the sell off. It happened fast and circuit breakers were hit. Pull up any ticker except volatility and bear stocks and you'll see.

Also that's why you hedge your bets. You own a heavy position in SPY and concerned about a crash? Use puts and calls on volatility.
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Originally Posted By ReyDelMundo⏩
Holy fuk, the GME hype may be more than just a pump...

Read a discussion on GME pivoting to have more of a focus on custom pc builds. This could be genius, they made their business before off of offering a wide range of games and accessories, but they made their money off of buying and selling used games. High end pc gamers are constantly chasing the newest equipment and there is billions of desirable hardware sitting around unused because someone upgraded and didn't sell it.

GME would make this process extremely easy. A lot of people complain about having to drive hundreds of miles to get to their nearest microsystem. I'm not getting in on it, especially at these prices, but still interesting.
Yes, I can see this working but most will disagree. It's like pcpartpicker irl. PC gaming and esports markets keep growing, demand is there. It's a good move imo.
Originally Posted By chino3⏩
3) lol at GME trying to compete with the likes of new egg, micro center, etc.
They will be fine imo because their target audience will be different, most likely console bros and youths. It's like why buy ps5 over PC when PC is superior in every way, different consumers. I can see them partnering with streamers and esports to advertise similar to what Intel/Nvidia did. Gaming brands, they are bigger than we think e.g. Alienware, Razor, ROG, etc, all these gimmicky gaming chairs, mouse, keyboards, etc.. they sell like hotcakes... Most of us don't understand because we simply aren't teens anymore. I mean esports & streamers have a lot of influence over gaming peripherals and sales of games in general. Amazon bought Twitch for a reason... Imo newegg & microcenter is mostly for older ppl, young adults like us who want the best bang for our buck and PC master race enthusiasts who need to max their epeen benchmarks and fps.
Originally Posted By Lb54TG⏩
This is some solid DD on GME.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetb...tm_name=iossmf

Feeling good about my 222 shares.

Hiyooo you still in on this?
100% my man, I got weeklies + earnings calls + shares on this bitch, <10% of my porfolio. If the squeeze doesn't happen, I still plan to hold long term (years) srs. I see potential in their vision and roadmap but bLoCkbUstEr, yeah we all know that and the company knows that. It's adapt or perish, their plan looks legit to me. Adaptation takes time and only time will tell.
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Originally Posted By Lb54TG⏩
This is some solid DD on GME.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetb...tm_name=iossmf

Feeling good about my 222 shares.

Hiyooo you still in on this?
alright...GME has my attention now...can't argue a lot of this thread (a lot i didnt realize about who's now involved with GME)....i've also been bearish on GME for years...definitely an interesting read and good points made
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Not really true. Spacs that has announced deals but hadn’t gone though merger- they dipped but didnt seem like they went under NAV in March. Both NKLA and Dkng stayed above 10 during the crash so hypothetically if you are near NAV should be much safer.
Originally Posted By SolidPaul⏩
Absolutely incorrect. The whole market in March sold off. I was there. Nothing was immune from the sell off. It happened fast and circuit breakers were hit. Pull up any ticker except volatility and bear stocks and you'll see.

Also that's why you hedge your bets. You own a heavy position in SPY and concerned about a crash? Use puts and calls on volatility.
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