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post 1628929253 01-18-2021, 05:12 AM
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As far as home equity, etc.... Different strokes for different folks. There's a million ways to skin a cat, but most Americans use stonks to retire in some way/shape/form... Ira/401/Sep-ira etc.

If you stop working, will you really be more profitable in the market?

I work and have loads of time to look at the market. (No kids crew)

I'm currently reading Edward Thorp's autobiography, and he challenges people actively trading vs indexing. Eddie thorp is literally one of the greatest and most profitable hedge fund managers who ever lived lmao.... Yet he advises towards indexing.

He also shows how looking at the increase in net worth y/y is your "return" as a functional human in the economy. You should look at your assets, income, investments, and decide where to put more of your time, and where to put less, depending on your return %
Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
What are us plebs supposed to do during a closed market tomorrow, work or something?
Crypto! LINK coin was on the move this weekend.
post 1628935823 01-18-2021, 07:36 AM
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Any brahs trading on the TSX today?

Been doing well with SCR since the single game gambling announcement was confirmed in Ontario (jfl @ how long that has taken). Up over 50% in the last couple weeks.
post 1628937603 01-18-2021, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
A lot of people fail to realize how expensive some benefits are particularly health insurance. Then there's the HSA/401k match which I think ended up being like $13k for me
Yup insurance is hella expensive. Good luck with ok-ish coverage for less than $300/month
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Dumb question - I wasn't invested in the market (beyond 401k) in March of last year. Did every single stock just plummet instantly?

If tomorrow we have a similar crash (for example purposes, I know market is closed) and I'm staring at my portfolio, will I be able to react quickly enough to close all my positions (I only hold a few)?
In short, no. But the bigger question is do you think you could determine if this was a catastrophic crash like in March or if it’s a sharp sell off like June or September? Imagine seeing -5-10% and then selling because you think it’s a crash, only for it to rebound in a week or three and now you’re fooked lol
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post 1628939223 01-18-2021, 08:21 AM
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Why is BB and GME gaining bigly?
post 1628939903 01-18-2021, 08:29 AM
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Lmao people are now tracking the Lucid CEOs private jet online wtf is happening.
post 1628940313 01-18-2021, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Yup insurance is hella expensive. Good luck with ok-ish coverage for less than $300/month
Fuark.

I REALLY need to find a way to reduce this expense. I'm already high deductible, and my premiums are a tax write-off, but it's still fuarkin overpriced and I never use it.

In b4 I get cancer.
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Originally Posted By TheUniBrah⏩
Any brahs trading on the TSX today?

Been doing well with SCR since the single game gambling announcement was confirmed in Ontario (jfl @ how long that has taken). Up over 50% in the last couple weeks.
I'm in on TSCRF but way deeper in FUNFF which on the TSX as FAN.CA

I'm a little confused how that works. How does TSCRF relate to SCR.CA? Is it the same stock, out of the same share pool just converted over to the other currency?

SCR.CA Looking good today but now sure what that means for TSCRF tomorrow
post 1628944553 01-18-2021, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Yup insurance is hella expensive. Good luck with ok-ish coverage for less than $300/month



In short, no. But the bigger question is do you think you could determine if this was a catastrophic crash like in March or if it’s a sharp sell off like June or September? Imagine seeing -5-10% and then selling because you think it’s a crash, only for it to rebound in a week or three and now you’re fooked lol
So the only way to eliminate that risk is to not hold overnight? Or not hold your entire portfolio in the market (maybe stay 50% cash, 50% investments)?
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post 1628944893 01-18-2021, 09:38 AM
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Since I’m mostly in oil and gas and their prices are still down a lot compared to pre March I’m not worried about a crash, if I was in options or tech/bio/growth I’d be worried about a crash because those overbought non profitable “battery idea” companies have a long way to fall
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post 1628945343 01-18-2021, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Fuark.

I REALLY need to find a way to reduce this expense. I'm already high deductible, and my premiums are a tax write-off, but it's still fuarkin overpriced and I never use it.

In b4 I get cancer.
Yeah it’s crazy how expensive it gets for good full coverage. People take benefits for granted when it comes to job pay vs job value.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
So the only way to eliminate that risk is to not hold overnight? Or not hold your entire portfolio in the market (maybe stay 50% cash, 50% investments)?
Only way to avoid risk in the market is not to invest in the market lol.

You can hedge with puts on large long positions, or you can sell covered calls. One costs money and the other caps potential profit but that’s how you mitigate loss.
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post 1628945843 01-18-2021, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By SipNPiz⏩
Since I’m mostly in oil and gas and their prices are still down a lot compared to pre March I’m not worried about a crash, if I was in options or tech/bio/growth I’d be worried about a crash because those overbought non profitable “battery idea” companies have a long way to fall
Same. My O&G leaps are good till next Jan so I'm set. I'll probably sell them in May/June anyway.


@Tug just ride the ride homie. Trend is currently very much so our friend.
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post 1628950513 01-18-2021, 10:42 AM
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Im using TD now to get on more stocks. I'm still confused about "bid" and "ask", compared to just buying market. I don't see why any of that matters if there's hundreds of thousands, if not millions of shares available. I'm about to just try and buy at whatever the current market price is.
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post 1628951393 01-18-2021, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted By HairyWBush⏩
Im using TD now to get on more stocks. I'm still confused about "bid" and "ask", compared to just buying market. I don't see why any of that matters if there's hundreds of thousands, if not millions of shares available. I'm about to just try and buy at whatever the current market price is.
spreads can be huge and especially if something is trading thinly you can accidentally pay a 5-10% premium to buy with a market order. ALWAYS use a limit order imo.
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post 1628951743 01-18-2021, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By SipNPiz⏩
Since I’m mostly in oil and gas and their prices are still down a lot compared to pre March I’m not worried about a crash, if I was in options or tech/bio/growth I’d be worried about a crash because those overbought non profitable “battery idea” companies have a long way to fall
Have you checked out RECAF?

You may be interested in that if you’re an oil guy. I picked up 100 shares a $2.70
There is no they…
post 1628958783 01-18-2021, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Travis99⏩
Have you checked out RECAF?

You may be interested in that if you’re an oil guy. I picked up 100 shares a $2.70
nice gains, looks like that stonk is not supported on robinhood tho so i cannot purchase any
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post 1628960563 01-18-2021, 12:50 PM
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Did you bros know you can look up all the senators financial disclosures? As in how much money they are investing in what; including their spouse.

Probably some good info on what to invest in considering they probably have a good idea, of what to invest in


https://efdsearch.senate.gov/
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post 1628969803 01-18-2021, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Yup insurance is hella expensive. Good luck with ok-ish coverage for less than $300/month



In short, no. But the bigger question is do you think you could determine if this was a catastrophic crash like in March or if it’s a sharp sell off like June or September? Imagine seeing -5-10% and then selling because you think it’s a crash, only for it to rebound in a week or three and now you’re fooked lol
Not sure if any of you guys watched the Fed meeting last week. JPow basically said they'll support a market that crashes too fast (like March and Feb) but they won't do anything about a slowly declining market. They'll also let the world "know" when they begin to taper off asset purchases. I did see some big whales hedge recently with SPY December 17 325P so who knows.
post 1628977403 01-18-2021, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By SolidPaul⏩
Not sure if any of you guys watched the Fed meeting last week. JPow basically said they'll support a market that crashes too fast (like March and Feb) but they won't do anything about a slowly declining market. They'll also let the world "know" when they begin to taper off asset purchases. I did see some big whales hedge recently with SPY December 17 325P so who knows.
This is definitely the biggest risk factor. Hopefully we can get at least another year of huge gains, but who knows.
post 1628981233 01-18-2021, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
spreads can be huge and especially if something is trading thinly you can accidentally pay a 5-10% premium to buy with a market order. ALWAYS use a limit order imo.
ok can you clarify the use of them?
example:
stock xxx
50m volume
Bid: $2
Market: $2.50
Ask: $3
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post 1628981743 01-18-2021, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By HairyWBush⏩
Im using TD now to get on more stocks. I'm still confused about "bid" and "ask", compared to just buying market. I don't see why any of that matters if there's hundreds of thousands, if not millions of shares available. I'm about to just try and buy at whatever the current market price is.
Here's an example from this week and I'll use Rob as an example, he's in CCIV trading at $20 per share, the ask is 20.01 and the bid is 19.99 but Rob puts his bid in at $17, the stock prices plummets, Rob gets his order filled at $17 and the stock goes back up to $19. Now Rob owns the stock for $3/share less than if he did a market order.

Another example would be that the stock is trading at $20 with an ask of 1000 shares for $20.01, you put in a market order for 6000 shares and by the time it starts climbing up the ask ladder you're into paying $22 for the shares .
post 1628981833 01-18-2021, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
have a buy order of $10k into $BB at openSRS
What's the hype behind BB?
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post 1628982293 01-18-2021, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By skinnyntall⏩
What's the hype behind BB?
Partnership with Amazon announced in December, lawsuit with ******** settled in January.
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
Partnership with Amazon announced in December, lawsuit with ******** settled in January.
They actually sold shiitload of patents to Huawei as well.


Those patents are worth $3+ billion apparently.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busi...ey-smartphone/
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
Here's an example from this week and I'll use Rob as an example, he's in CCIV trading at $20 per share, the ask is 20.01 and the bid is 19.99 but Rob puts his bid in at $17, the stock prices plummets, Rob gets his order filled at $17 and the stock goes back up to $19. Now Rob owns the stock for $3/share less than if he did a market order.

Another example would be that the stock is trading at $20 with an ask of 1000 shares for $20.01, you put in a market order for 6000 shares and by the time it starts climbing up the ask ladder you're into paying $22 for the shares .
This I completely understand, although what's stopping you from putting in any share price limit you want? What's deciding those numbers? You can put in an order for xxx shares at $X.xx and it sounds like it does the exact same thing. What's the difference?
Robinhood is a breeze, this TD is more technical lol.
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains⏩
This is definitely the biggest risk factor. Hopefully we can get at least another year of huge gains, but who knows.
One stock I saw that 100% applies to what Paul is talking about slowly pulling back.

Fedex.

After it hit $302 it has been red every single day little by little.

Now trading at $252.




...............

anyone playing anything earnings this week

key words from any of these will be 'guidance' 'operating cost' will drop if they mention it


I think Intel will fail again.


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Originally Posted By SolidPaul⏩
Not sure if any of you guys watched the Fed meeting last week. JPow basically said they'll support a market that crashes too fast (like March and Feb) but they won't do anything about a slowly declining market. They'll also let the world "know" when they begin to taper off asset purchases. I did see some big whales hedge recently with SPY December 17 325P so who knows.
intredasting.. so I don't have to be worried about waking up one random morning and seeing all my stonks go down

I'm curious how this is even possible - do they just do a liquidity injection into the largest index funds?

What about companies outside of any large index fund?
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
Partnership with Amazon announced in December, lawsuit with ******** settled in January.
And WSB autists pumping it
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Originally Posted By HairyWBush⏩
This I completely understand, although what's stopping you from putting in any share price limit you want? What's deciding those numbers? You can put in an order for xxx shares at $X.xx and it sounds like it does the exact same thing. What's the difference?
Robinhood is a breeze, this TD is more technical lol.
So in the case of Robs example, someone sold 2M shares on a market order so it climbed down the bid order ladder until those 2M shares sold and thus tanked the price. But as far as what you can bid, you can absolute put in whatever price you want, your order just may not fill if there is nobody selling at that price whereas a market order will always fill.
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Originally Posted By HairyWBush⏩
This I completely understand, although what's stopping you from putting in any share price limit you want? What's deciding those numbers? You can put in an order for xxx shares at $X.xx and it sounds like it does the exact same thing. What's the difference?
Robinhood is a breeze, this TD is more technical lol.
Pretty good video on order types from TD

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9lMHnK9eqQw
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
One stock I saw that 100% applies to what Paul is talking about slowly pulling back.

Fedex.

After it hit $302 it has been red every single day little by little.

Now trading at $252.




...............

anyone playing anything earnings this week

key words from any of these will be 'guidance' 'operating cost' will drop if they mention it


I think Intel will fail again.


Only one I might consider is NFLX. they’ve been range bound between $470-520 for the past two quarters. Not sure if I want to kid first thing in the morning and do covered calls, or sell puts and cash in on the pumped premiums and then wheel if assigned...


I’ve been trying spend today thinking about what to do this week but I keep getting too risky feelings. At least for the stocks I’m interested in (due to decently high IV). Not to mention I still have until the 29th until my first TSLA conundrum settles, and would like to stay as liquid as possible until then.

That said, PLTR is still very attractive but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a continued pull back. That ARK news was a great pump but damn that sell off could be a sign of more to come. If I do anything, I’ll be going big on 1/22 $30csp...
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