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post 1631026113 02-10-2021, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted By potatoe⏩
L210's are probably the best option for not shelling out a lot of money. Barely cost more than steel, with a lot more piece of mind, and lacking the weight. I think it really depends on the level 4 plates. The trade off is getting a cheap lvl4 plate for $100-$200, but weights 8-9lbs/plate (gross), or getting a light lvl4 plate at 5-5.5 lbs but shelling out $1200-$1300/plate (also gross). I went with level 3+ being that you get light weight, (mid low 4lbs range), and yet some full power rifle round coverage (7.62x54, 30.06 msc/jsp). Half the price of nice level 4 (yet still kinda pricey really...)
You went with 3810s or 210s? The 210s aren't rated to stop even .308...the 3810s are basically a level 4 plate minus the 30-06 AP round test.

L210 matrix:https://www.trex-arms.com/wp-content...L210_18110.jpg
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Anyone think that movie productions will have trouble sourcing firearms and ammunition for new movies?
I don't know whether blanks use the same primers as standard rounds but I understand there to be a shortage of primers among many other components.
I didn't notice anything different during other panics so I do not know whether this is any different. However it is something that crossed my mind lately.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
SGammo has had this the past week or so too at $1.20.

https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-5...o-made-israe-0
Is IMI any good? I have zero experience with their ammo. Some local guys I know are fine with it and with South Korean ammo but I have no personal experience with it.
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Originally Posted By NeckbeardKilla⏩
Anyone think that movie productions will have trouble sourcing firearms and ammunition for new movies?
I don't know whether blanks use the same primers as standard rounds but I understand there to be a shortage of primers among many other components.
I didn't notice anything different during other panics so I do not know whether this is any different. However it is something that crossed my mind lately.
They don't buy new guns every time they want to film...they hire companies with armories to provide firearms. Ammo (generally) may be expensive but it's available...it's a drop in the bucket for a movie budget.
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Originally Posted By NeckbeardKilla⏩
Anyone think that movie productions will have trouble sourcing firearms and ammunition for new movies?
I don't know whether blanks use the same primers as standard rounds but I understand there to be a shortage of primers among many other components.
I didn't notice anything different during other panics so I do not know whether this is any different. However it is something that crossed my mind lately.
In a word:

No
Originally Posted By NeckbeardKilla⏩
Is IMI any good?
Very
post 1631026683 02-10-2021, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted By NeckbeardKilla⏩
Is IMI any good? I have zero experience with their ammo. Some local guys I know are fine with it and with South Korean ammo but I have no personal experience with it.
Look up IMI 77 gr gel test on youtube
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Gun prices are hardly up at all though? Same for mags.

It's all about the ammo.

Ammo. Less __, more ammo...damn that sounds familiar
From my records, which are limited, magazines are slightly up in price but most firearms I follow have increased in price. For example: Glock G45 is up by $100 in most places. Marlin 1894 cowboy up by at least $100 in most places as well. Q Honey Badger doubled in price and resells for substantially more on gunbroker. Molot Veper 12 up by $150.00. CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S2 Micro up by $275. Maxim Defense PDX up by $300.00.
No change to the price of a CZ75 Tactical Sport Orange and Tommy Built tactical builds though.
I've bookmarked most of these from various online sellers at least one year ago and when bookmarking them I noted the price. Some of the prices are from more than one year ago. It's understandable that some production costs have increased.
I suppose it depends on what you are looking for in the long run. However, these increases do not compare to the increase in the cost of ammunition - except for the Honey Badger - that price increase is nuts.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I can't believe this is a question, but...where do you buy a 1k round case of 9mm for $500?

Also, just join GSSF already, you'll get the best Glock prices, basically it's new guns at used prices
This was in stock yesterday for a couple of hours.

https://www.natchezss.com/cci-blazer...oose-pack.html

The main problem has been just finding the glocks around here. You can find about anything on the used market, but prices are potato.

It has me looking at CZs again. I've seen P10-S and P10-C for almost normal prices recently.
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Originally Posted By NeckbeardKilla⏩
From my records, which are limited, magazines are slightly up in price but most firearms I follow have increased in price. For example: Glock G45 is up by $100 in most places. Marlin 1894 cowboy up by at least $100 in most places as well. Q Honey Badger doubled in price and resells for substantially more on gunbroker. Molot Veper 12 up by $150.00. CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S2 Micro up by $275. Maxim Defense PDX up by $300.00.
No change to the price of a CZ75 Tactical Sport Orange and Tommy Built tactical builds though.
I've bookmarked most of these from various online sellers at least one year ago and when bookmarking them I noted the price. Some of the prices are from more than one year ago. It's understandable that some production costs have increased.
I suppose it depends on what you are looking for in the long run. However, these increases do not compare to the increase in the cost of ammunition - except for the Honey Badger - that price increase is nuts.
Okay, but, the post I quoted to write that response was talking about paying college tuition from selling guns. Glocks going up $100 is, like, you can buy a really nice steak dinner with the profit lol
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Lmao at hawaii mailing legal threats to everyone on their lists for both ccw and medical marijuana. This is the type of chit that's just not constitutional.
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Bill proposition


https://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...hoice=suppress

Background checks for ammunition
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Okay, but, the post I quoted to write that response was talking about paying college tuition from selling guns. Glocks going up $100 is, like, you can buy a really nice steak dinner with the profit lol
Oh - I did not read the post you were responding to. But I'm in agreement with you, paying college tuition from selling guns won't work (unless you are re-selling Q honey badgers).
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Okay, but, the post I quoted to write that response was talking about paying college tuition from selling guns. Glocks going up $100 is, like, you can buy a really nice steak dinner with the profit lol
The bubble burst months ago. Some of us were getting $2k+ for a franken-AR, or PSA that we had ~$400 into, at the height of the bubble. Beat up old shotguns were going for $1k. It was retarded.
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post 1631030973 02-10-2021, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Lmao at hawaii mailing legal threats to everyone on their lists for both ccw and medical marijuana. This is the type of chit that's just not constitutional.
Link to story please? Not that I do not believe you, I simply want to read more about this nonsense. I found a link on reddit to the bill proposed by the house banning anything over 50 caliber and shotguns:https://old.reddit.com/r/Hawaii/comm..._pass_sb307_a/
post 1631031043 02-10-2021, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Bill proposition


https://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...hoice=suppress

Background checks for ammunition
What is it...more red flag type prohibitions, all ammunition orders must go through FFL, restrictions on who can have/buy ammo, a felony to sell ammo to a prohibited person, cop exemptions...that kinda sum it up?
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
The bubble burst months ago. Some of us were getting $2k+ for a franken-AR, or PSA that we had ~$400 into, at the height of the bubble. Beat up old shotguns were going for $1k. It was retarded.
What if I told you that bubble had not truly even started yet
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
What if I told you that bubble had not truly even started yet
Like an AWB? Possible, but not yet here. If I wanted to replace what I sold, I could do it at cost today and have roughly the same amount of money in profit.
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post 1631032033 02-10-2021, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
Like an AWB? Possible, but not yet here. If I wanted to replace what I sold, I could do it at cost today and have roughly the same amount of money in profit.
That is what they will put forth and talk/voting on such a bill is what will drive firearms prices potato.

One day you'll be able to say you could replace at cost, the next day, not so much.

Can't say when, but sometime before the miderms in 2022
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Originally Posted By potatoe⏩
L210's are probably the best option for not shelling out a lot of money. Barely cost more than steel, with a lot more piece of mind, and lacking the weight. I think it really depends on the level 4 plates. The trade off is getting a cheap lvl4 plate for $100-$200, but weights 8-9lbs/plate (gross), or getting a light lvl4 plate at 5-5.5 lbs but shelling out $1200-$1300/plate (also gross). I went with level 3+ being that you get light weight, (mid low 4lbs range), and yet some full power rifle round coverage (7.62x54, 30.06 msc/jsp). Half the price of nice level 4 (yet still kinda pricey really...)
What'd you go with?
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How bad do you want .223?

$0.97 round

https://www.natchezss.com/federal-am...0-ct-case.html

$1.10 round

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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
You went with 3810s or 210s? The 210s aren't rated to stop even .308...the 3810s are basically a level 4 plate minus the 30-06 AP round test.

L210 matrix:https://www.trex-arms.com/wp-content...L210_18110.jpg
I went with the agilite Raider plates when I bough the k19, which are effectively 3810's. In fact they just hit my doorstep. The final piece of my agilite collection (got the AMAP as a Christmas gift).

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All those proposed bills are nothing to panic about. Wake me up when one of them passes in the house.

When that happens it’s time to panic. Until then all the fear mongerers can derelick ma balls.
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Originally Posted By potatoe⏩
I went with the agilite Raider plates when I bough the k19, which are effectively 3810's. In fact they just hit my doorstep. The final piece of my agilite collection (got the AMAP as a Christmas gift).

Awesome man. Let me know how you like the Agilite carrier. That whole setup (integrated pack) is very similar to what we ran in the IDF and I always liked it.
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[QUOTE=potatoe post_id=1631050343]I went with the agilite Raider plates when I bough the k19, which are effectively 3810's. In fact they just hit my doorstep. The final piece of my agilite collection (got the AMAP as a Christmas gift).

[img]https://i.imgur.com/8LTN7r9.jpg[mg][/QUOTE]I know absolutely nothing about carriers, but that looks pretty slick.
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
How bad do you want .223?

$0.97 round

https://www.natchezss.com/federal-am...0-ct-case.html

$1.10 round

https://www.natchezss.com/federal-xm...00-ct-can.html
One can limit at $1.10 a round. Wow
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[QUOTE=potatoe post_id=1631050343]I went with the agilite Raider plates when I bough the k19, which are effectively 3810's. In fact they just hit my doorstep. The final piece of my agilite collection (got the AMAP as a Christmas gift).

[img]https://i.imgur.com/8LTN7r9.jpg[img][/QUOTE]solid Christmas gift, real nice.
pic has me all horned up
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Is there a new thread?
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=179734073
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i dunno if ppl are in the new thread yet, so i'm gonna copy paste my post here too

just got my bcm ambi charging handle delivered to replace my old non-ambi bcm ch from several years ago.

I havent installed it yet, but first impressions are kinda meh. I might return it

I didn't know this until now, but they released new models out couple years ago. complete redsign in the latch system

on my old one, i could engage the latch with my finger, on this new one, it's actually pretty hard to have the ambi side even move the latch. Granted, it's not installed yet, so maybe when on the gun, the pulling angles will be different, but still find it odd. what i wanted was that buttery smooth release to just rip and rack it back. Seems i might have to muscle it

The other thing is I had a medium latch last time and its perfect, the medium on this new model seems to be way smaller. like the medium is now what the normal or small was, and a large might be what the medium used to be

Any of you have experience with the "new" bcm ambi's?
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