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post 1631105053 02-11-2021, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
^ This.

Mind is still blown at the people who believe the grossly inflated infection count and death count numbers. Covid is a superflu. That's it. It's very contagious because the Chinese created it in a lab to be very contagious, but otherwise it's just a superflu bug. It kills the same people that any superflu bug would kill. It has some weird complications that go along with it and outside of a very small percentage of people who just have a bad reaction to it, for the most part we know the people who are most susceptible to it and can protect them without keeping the country and economy partially shutdown.

There is no way I'm getting a vaccine for a superflu bug that 1) isn't fully understood, 2) was rushed through development in record time, and 3) whose manufacturers have been given legal indemnity. No fkn way. (Ded fkn srs).
You're a decent poster (unless I'm confusing you for someone else lol). It's a "corona virus" which is a generic name for several viruses in the family. Influenza is different, in a totally different group of viruses. It's hard to take you seriously when you make a statement like this that's easily proven wrong. I'm anti-COVID vax as it gets, keep your facts straight so assfuks in charge can't pin you on these things.
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Originally Posted By Johnez
So if I get this right...
COVID death with comorbidity: doesn't count
Vax death with comorbity and likely no investigation yet: schit yer pants!

Come on, at least hold onto some sort of consistency. The problem with people like you is you actively take any and all "information" you get to push your point and ignore any context or the complete picture. The danger is idiots like you are easy to bat down as conspiratards/extremist/ignorant and hold up as a reason to go along with something questionable. I don't want a vax, I don't intend to get it, and fuk forcing it. But if the TPTB are able to use people like you to ridicule skeptics like me we are all fukked.
Exactly this! I'm not planning on getting the vaccine, there are too many unknown variables. But guys like Kreul are so blatant in their stupidity and ignorance, it makes those who are being prudent on their vaccine stance get jumbled and tossed into the basket of Conspiratards.
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reminder this vaccine is "voluntary"

They endlessly shill the vaccine, peer pressure you, guilt trip you, what if you kill grandma with covid ect

but the minute you have ANY health problems from the vaccine

- you volunteered to get it
- it was optional
- cant file workers comp
- cant sue Pfiser
- cant sue fed government
- cant sue local government

You have to pay out of pocket for your own medical costs if anything goes wrong. They are quick to tell you how safe it is, how you should rush to get the experimental emergency vaccine, but these people telling you this accept ZERO LIABILITY in the event your health is affected. That is all on you and your problem.


These people that bleed to death from the vaccine? better have insurance because its getting billed and that copay is coming from their estate. They kill you with the vaccine then charge you for it. Remember you "opted" to get it.
post 1631105343 02-11-2021, 12:18 AM
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Who is “chiting” their pants?
Taking a vaccine for something far less deadly than the flu..I’ll think I’ll pass
post 1631105453 02-11-2021, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Who is “chiting” their pants?
Taking a vaccine for something far less deadly than the flu..I’ll think I’ll pass
Depends on the circumstance really.
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post 1631105473 02-11-2021, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Johnez
Lol. Every death from flu is without comorbidity now.

Ok den.

Go look up the age of flu deaths. Lol. 2/3 over 65. No comorbity tho. LMAO.
60,000 die with no comorbidities from the flu..According to the CDC, the 2017-2018 influenza season saw 61,000 deaths directly related to influenza, and not attributed to any other disease.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden.../2017-2018.htm

However, this article states influenza and complications killed 80,000 Americans in 2018.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/...deaths-winter/

330k “COVID” American deaths in 2020 (minus the 94% that had comorbidity) is 20k American deaths due to COVID without co-morbidity. 20k deaths compared to even half the 2018 influenza deaths still makes influenza far deadlier

https://www.jems.com/coronavirus/cdc...vid-19-deaths/
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
reminder this vaccine is "voluntary"

They endlessly shill the vaccine, peer pressure you, guilt trip you, what if you kill grandma with covid ect

but the minute you have ANY health problems from the vaccine

- you volunteered to get it
- it was optional
- cant file workers comp
- cant sue Pfiser
- cant sue fed government
- cant sue local government

You have to pay out of pocket for your own medical costs if anything goes wrong. They are quick to tell you how safe it is, how you should rush to get the experimental emergency vaccine, but these people telling you this accept ZERO LIABILITY in the event your health is affected. That is all on you and your problem.


These people that bleed to death from the vaccine? better have insurance because its getting billed and that copay is coming from their estate.
As far as I know you can still file a claim with that vaccine injury board and if the damage is great enough get up to a quarter million. They cap it due to the fact that companies don't make jack for profit and need some sort of protection. Do you have any info stating you forfeit any claim if you voluntarily take the vaccine?
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Originally Posted By GnomeSaiyanBruh
Depends on the circumstance really.
Death rate by age group:
0-19yrs is 0.00003%
20-39yrs is 0.0002%
40-59yrs is 0.005%
70+ yrs is 0.054%
post 1631105603 02-11-2021, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Death rate by age group:
0-19yrs is 0.00003%
20-39yrs is 0.0002%
40-59yrs is 0.005%
70+ yrs is 0.054%
Age isn’t the only factor tho boyo.
Nah bro I’m sweet.
post 1631105643 02-11-2021, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted By GnomeSaiyanBruh
Age isn’t the only factor tho boyo.
Sure..which is why it’s still less deadly than the flu
post 1631105723 02-11-2021, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Umm..no. 60,000 die with no comorbidities from the flu..According to the CDC, the 2017-2018 influenza season saw 61,000 deaths directly related to influenza, and not attributed to any other disease.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden.../2017-2018.htm

However, this article states influenza and complications killed 80,000 Americans in 2018.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/...deaths-winter/

330k “COVID” American deaths in 2020 (minus the 94% that had comorbidity) is 20k American deaths due to COVID without co-morbidity. 20k deaths compared to even half the 2018 influenza deaths still makes influenza far deadlier
Bruh.

Nowhere does it state in the CDC article that all those flu deaths were without comorbidity.

Also:
Older adults also accounted for 83% of deaths, highlighting that older adults are particularly vulnerable to severe disease with influenza virus infection.
There are comorbities there. Unless the flu kills only the healthiest of geezers. Come on man, you cannot be this dense.

Also, I'm not even looking at your other article. The fact that you are using one article's number against another to deduce the fact that there are hardly any comorbities is laughable. Try harder.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
^ This.

Mind is still blown at the people who believe the grossly inflated infection count and death count numbers. Covid is a superflu. That's it. It's very contagious because the Chinese created it in a lab to be very contagious, but otherwise it's just a superflu bug. It kills the same people that any superflu bug would kill. It has some weird complications that go along with it and outside of a very small percentage of people who just have a bad reaction to it, for the most part we know the people who are most susceptible to it and can protect them without keeping the country and economy partially shutdown.

There is no way I'm getting a vaccine for a superflu bug that 1) isn't fully understood, 2) was rushed through development in record time, and 3) whose manufacturers have been given legal indemnity. No fkn way. (Ded fkn srs).
I agree that the Covid death statistics are most likely inflated, but to compare it as the same as regular flu deaths is ridiculous. What we can say for certain is that there were 3.1 million deaths in the U.S. in 2020, which is an increase of 12% compared to 2019, that's 334,000 more than in 2019. That's not even including Jan and Feb of 2021.

https://usafacts.org/articles/prelim...virus-age-flu/
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Originally Posted By Johnez
You're a decent poster (unless I'm confusing you for someone else lol). It's a "corona virus" which is a generic name for several viruses in the family. Influenza is different, in a totally different group of viruses. It's hard to take you seriously when you make a statement like this that's easily proven wrong. I'm anti-COVID vax as it gets, keep your facts straight so assfuks in charge can't pin you on these things.
Do you understand why there has never been a Covid vaccine until now?
Yes, there are many Coronavirus. There are currently 36 known Coronavirus that have been present for 6 decades. It is an RNA virus, that means that each time someone gets sick & the virus goes through them, it morphs into a new subtype.
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Originally Posted By Dukelord
I agree that the Covid death statistics are most likely inflated, but to compare it as the same as regular flu deaths is ridiculous. What we can say for certain is that there were 3.1 million deaths in the U.S. in 2020, which is an increase of 12% compared to 2019, that's 334,000 more than in 2019. That's not even including Jan and Feb of 2021.

https://usafacts.org/articles/prelim...virus-age-flu/
It was all dem car accidents from people rushing home to get in quarantine.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Do you understand why there has never been a Covid vaccine until now?
Yes, there are many Coronavirus. There are currently 36 known Coronavirus that have been present for 6 decades. It is an RNA virus, that means that each time someone gets sick & the virus goes through them, it morphs into a new subtype.
There have been vaccines in trial. They either could not be carried out due to the virus going away (no test subjects) or being failures. Yes, I know. That is why I'm not getting the vax. You don't have to convince me of anything, I'm with you there. I'd prefer if people against the vax would stick with cold hard facts and not employ easily disproven forms of logic or simple bad info.
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Originally Posted By Johnez
As far as I know you can still file a claim with that vaccine injury board and if the damage is great enough get up to a quarter million. They cap it due to the fact that companies don't make jack for profit and need some sort of protection. Do you have any info stating you forfeit any claim if you voluntarily take the vaccine?
Needs to be a "covered vaccine"

https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compens...nes/index.html

I dont see it on the list.

They updated it december 2020 and dont mention covid, likely intentionally.

They list multiple vaccines which are not covered, so it appears it is common to not cover various vaccines for whatever reason and state most "routine" vaccines are covered.

Being covid is "emergency approved" and not listed, its reasonable to assume it is Not covered.

So you get injured or die from it, its on you buddy boyo.
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Originally Posted By Dukelord
I agree that the Covid death statistics are most likely inflated, but to compare it as the same as regular flu deaths is ridiculous. What we can say for certain is that there were 3.1 million deaths in the U.S. in 2020, which is an increase of 12% compared to 2019, that's 334,000 more than in 2019. That's not even including Jan and Feb of 2021.

https://usafacts.org/articles/prelim...virus-age-flu/
You are assuming those extra deaths were Covid deaths..
Let me clue you in.. For every 1% unemployment increases roughly 30,000 deaths occur. Excess deaths in 2020: One study saying 20% excess for months March thru July 2020, and 1/3 of deaths were not related to COVID. The other 2/3 of recorded deaths were likely related to CSTE guidance to list all deaths as COVID, and/or the unnecessary lockdowns, which caused more deaths erroneously labeled as COVID due to CSTE guidance.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/

It's been estimated there will be an additional 1.4 million tuberculosis deaths from the disruptions caused by lockdowns, 500k additional deaths related to HIV, 335k from malaria. So from these 3 diseases alone, that's 3.2 million lockdown deaths. COVID is at 1.9 million...& we know we can subtract 94% off of that number.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/h....co/UMSXByMKox
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
Needs to be a "covered vaccine"

https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compens...nes/index.html

I dont see it on the list.

They updated it december 2020 and dont mention covid, likely intentionally.

They list multiple vaccines which are not covered and state most "routine" vaccines are covered.

Being covid is "emergency approved" and not listed, its reasonable to assume it is Not covered.

So you get injured or die from it, its on you buddy boyo.
Good to know. Def not getting this chit now unless specifically covered.
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Originally Posted By GnomeSaiyanBruh
Age isn’t the only factor tho boyo.
Those are death rates of all people across age groups. That accounts for people with health issued.

That 0.054% death rate for over 70 oldcels? that is including the ones with cancer and chit in that number.


literally just a flu bro
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Originally Posted By Johnez
There have been vaccines in trial. They either could not be carried out due to the virus going away (no test subjects) or being failures. Yes, I know. That is why I'm not getting the vax. You don't have to convince me of anything, I'm with you there. I'd prefer if people against the vax would stick with cold hard facts and not employ easily disproven forms of logic or simple bad info.
It’s because every time they tried a Coronavirus vaccine, it made the test group have an inability to fight off the following Coronavirus..as this vaccine will do. It’s called Cytokine storm
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
Those are death rates of all people across age groups. That accounts for people with health issued.

That 0.054% death rate for over 70 oldcels? that is including the ones with cancer and chit in that number.


literally just a flu bro
These geezers probably have a higher death rate per year driving...
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Originally Posted By Paul
It’s because every time they tried a Coronavirus vaccine, it made the test group have an inability to fight off the following Coronavirus..as this vaccine will do. It’s called Cytokine storm
Cytokine storm is the immune system over-reaction, is it not?
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Originally Posted By Johnez
Cytokine storm is an over-reaction is it not?
Which is exactly what this mRNA vaccine will do
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Originally Posted By Paul
Which is exactly what this mRNA vaccine will do
I'm not encouraged by the deletion of the Fox article... The vaccine is barely being given out and people are going on about it only being 36 in 40+ million doses......uh....medium/long term....???? The description of that death is fukking frightening.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
Those are death rates of all people across age groups. That accounts for people with health issued.

That 0.054% death rate for over 70 oldcels? that is including the ones with cancer and chit in that number.


literally just a flu bro
What I’m talking about, is people that have pre existing conditions that choose to get the vaccine. I know not everyone dies from it. My dad is 70 and had it, got fuked up, but lived. My gf and her family got it, and were fine, but her aunt died of it. It varies obviously person to person. What I want to know is, why anyone gives a chit if someone decides to get the vaccine? I get some people don’t think it’s necessary, and that’s fine, but some people feel it is, and that’s also fine.
Nah bro I’m sweet.
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Originally Posted By Johnez
It was all dem car accidents from people rushing home to get in quarantine.
lol, anything's possible. The one thing I like about quarantine is no heavy traffic. Quarantine is the time they should work on the freeways. Those bastards always worked on it during rush hour.
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Originally Posted By Dukelord
lol, anything's possible. The one thing I like about quarantine is no heavy traffic. Quarantine is the time they should work on the freeways. Those bastards always do worked on it during rush hour.
Agreed. That’s the only good thing that came out of all of this.
Nah bro I’m sweet.
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Originally Posted By Johnez
So if I get this right...
COVID death with comorbidity: doesn't count
Vax death with comorbity and likely no investigation yet: schit yer pants!

Come on, at least hold onto some sort of consistency. The problem with people like you is you actively take any and all "information" you get to push your point and ignore any context or the complete picture.The danger is idiots like you are easy to bat down as conspiratards/extremist/ignorant and hold up as a reason to go along with something questionable.I don't want a vax, I don't intend to get it, and fuk forcing it. But if the TPTB are able to use people like youto ridicule skeptics like mewe are all fukked.
Originally Posted By Dukelord
Exactly this! I'm not planning on getting the vaccine, there are too many unknown variables. But guys like Kreul are so blatant in their stupidity and ignorance,it makes those who are being prudent on their vaccine stance get jumbled and tossed into the basket of Conspiratards.
You two shouldn't worry so much about how you're perceived by people who aren't going to listen to you anyway. People who want to label people as "conspiratards" already have their minds set, why try to pander to them? They're mostly idiots anyway.

It sucks we're all in the situation we're in because of them, but they've already bought into something completely ridiculous because it makes them feel smart. You think that if you can reason in your perfect (according to you) intelligent way, they'll see the light? They won't unless "TPTB" tell them to.

They're not "conspiratards", they listen to science. The fact that most of them have never actually met an actual scientist, or studied anything themselves is totally lost on them. It's a total appeal to authority, that doesn't even make sense, since it would mean that science and scientists are some uniform body in total agreement about everything.
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