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post 1631108443 02-11-2021, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Dukelord⏩
Thank you! Such an obvious thing, I can't believe it needs to be explained to anyone. It's like comparing death numbers between two contagious diseases, one in lockdown quarantine conditions, wearing masks, travel restrictions, school closings, all non essential business closed, no indoor and at times outdoor dining and the other with absolutely no restrictions was even remotely appropriate and think that it would give an accurate comparison. That's why I think that people that compare flu deaths to Covid aren't seeing the full picture.
Cannot believe you are still in about this. Lockdowns & restrictions didn’t “save lives” they killed more people than Covid so why would you even factor it in?

It’s not debatable, Covid is far less deadly than the flu. Science is the pursuit of favorable probability. Science is not a democracy.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
Don't forget how many were murdered in hospitals early on by being forced on to ventilators. Those people would have mostly survived without that.
Yeah man, when I read the fatality rate of patients on ventilators was over 70%, I was thinking if it was me, I'd take my chances with just supplemental oxygen, I wouldn't want to be intubated.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Cannot believe you are still in about this. Lockdowns & restrictions didn’t “save lives” they killed more people than Covid so why would you even factor it in?

It’s not debatable, Covid is far less deadly than the flu. Science is the pursuit of favorable probability. Science is not a democracy.
Dude, just stop responding to my posts, skip them and don't read. I don't want to engage in a debate with you, move on.
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Originally Posted By Dukelord⏩
Dude, just stop responding to my posts, skip them and don't read. I don't want to engage in a debate with you, move on.
You never debated, you just made personal attacks.
You have nothing, I understand why you wouldn’t want to respond. Your relevance is all conjecture
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Originally Posted By jazi⏩
I will state the problem with this vaccine simply and without being dramatic.


To understand the efficacy and safety of a drug/vaccine, we needCROSS SECTIONAL STUDIESandLONGITUDINAL STUDIESto be conducted.

Cross sectional studiesshow the immediate effect of the target substance on alarge group of people

Longitudinal studiesfollow asmall number of peopleover along period of time(10 + years) to begin to understand long term effects

Due to the various incentives to address COVID,funding can be made available to increase the number of participants of cross sectional studies.

However, since we have no time machine, we cannot follow study participants over a long period of time no matter how much funding or interest there is.

So the long term effects are not close to being adequately studied because the lack of longitudinal studies on this vaccine.
I agree. There's a couple of biology professors that do a podcast called Darkhorse podcast that talked about the vaccine pros and cons and they did a pretty good job explaining it. You should check it out, your broad strokes mirror what they talked about.
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Originally Posted By Archangel_Lost⏩
Don’t plan on getting jabbed, but lettuce be real


36 reports out of 32,000,000 vaccinated.

Not exactly worth pearl clutching over.

It’s just a flu shot bro.
Some people use zero common sense.


brb, not driving because 1 in 103 will die in a car crash. Real stats btw.
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Originally Posted By Paul
You never debated, you just made personal attacks.
You have nothing, I understand why you wouldn’t want to respond. Your relevance is all conjecture
ffs, you must drive the misses crazy, always needing to get the last word in lol. Honestly, I admire your tenacity.
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Originally Posted By MisterDiapers⏩
bro, 90% of these people are on their death beds before they get the vaccine

brb 79 year old male with the following conditions: Current Illness: End stage renal disease with dependence on renal dialysis, COPD, cirrhosis of the liver, hypokalemia, gout, heart failure, hyperlipidemia, atrial fibrillation.

The dude was set to expire within the next day, sorry to burst your bubble but this dude was already a goner before the vaccine
What would you say about the same guy being registered as a covid death?
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
The mask?

You must not have seen the memo.

It's 2 masks now. They want us all to wear 2 masks now. 1 isn't enough apparently. I'm not even joking.
I wore N95 masks on long international flights. My ears felt like exploding and being ripped off. Can't imagine having to wear 2 masks which would be 2x the pain or more...
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Originally Posted By deeAvi⏩
i got both my shots and im fine. had flu like symptoms first 3 days
-Some people say good things come to those who wait, truth is, good things come to those who work..... who work later.....who work harder...... who are willing to go further than anyone else to get them. If you're waiting for good things to come to you, you'll be waiting for a pretty long time.

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Originally Posted By Paul
Over 500 dead from the vaccine..& it just came out..

https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/fi...ID-19&DIED=Yes

You are the biggest fukin moron on this site
Interesting article, thanks for the link

Some of those patients went to get the vaccine after having already made it past Covid-19 for fourteen days, another I read was fifteen days past it. And then they go an get a shot? It makes no sense to me. If you have overcome the virus for two weeks, you have gotten past the worst of of it, and would then need to focus on treating any issues that arise from the virus for a while. After you get a coronavirus infection, you have cross-reactive immunity; your immune system should be sufficient enough to handle a second bout. But they dived right into the vaccines when their body is still recovering and trying to heal itself

The SARS-CoV-II virus has an Infection Mortality Rate that is three to four times higher than that of any influenza virus. This is SARS, not influenza. You would be wise to be more cautious and apt to treat the symptoms with whatever is proven to help aid your immune system in fighting the virus. It's not like the flu where you get it and feel like chit for two, three or four days and then get back to it. For some it is, for others they will be dealing with more severe, alarming symptoms such as difficulty breathing to use one example. People of all ages are experiencing or having trouble breathing when contracting this virus. Even healthy individuals in their twenties are experiencing some level of shortness in breath

Staying on top of health and knowing how to fight this virus correctly is important. Even those who are healthy as fuk right now, what happens if they catch the virus after a weekend of cheat meals, alcohol, poor sleep from partying and put their system through that kind of strain? Will that make a difference? There are so many variables that will play a part in how each individual handles this virus and the disease. Hopefully everyone makes the right choices to allow their bodies to effectively kill off the virus quickly after infection

If you're feeling terrible and think you're sick, learning and practicing prone positioning and treating symptoms early will be a crucial step to take early on. Protecting the lungs early during any early signs of distress should be priority IMO. I never had to consider any of this in the past but now it's apparent that this novel coronavirus is a fair bit rougher and potentially, deadlier, than your typical cold or flu and should be treated as such. I think the precautions everyone is taking are appropriate and I think that you should consider your health bro. Nobody wants to live in fear, but it is best to not write this virus off as the flu or like the flu, because it is not. Even if many are asymptomatic and the ones who do get hit by Covid-19 survive, the implications of SARS-CoV-2 clearly have proven more severe than any flu viruses. This has been observed
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^prone positioning? Typo? WTH is this and why is it important for lungs? I hesitate to google this term lol....
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post 1631119443 02-11-2021, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted By ClevageGobbler⏩
Interesting article, thanks for the link

Some of those patients went to get the vaccine after having already made it past Covid-19 for fourteen days, another I read was fifteen days past it. And then they go an get a shot? It makes no sense to me. If you have overcome the virus for two weeks, you have gotten past the worst of of it, and would then need to focus on treating any issues that arise from the virus for a while. After you get a coronavirus infection, you have cross-reactive immunity; your immune system should be sufficient enough to handle a second bout. But they dived right into the vaccines when their body is still recovering and trying to heal itself

The SARS-CoV-II virus has an Infection Mortality Rate that is three to four times higher than that of any influenza virus. This is SARS, not influenza. You would be wise to be more cautious and apt to treat the symptoms with whatever is proven to help aid your immune system in fighting the virus. It's not like the flu where you get it and feel like chit for two, three or four days and then get back to it. For some it is, for others they will be dealing with more severe, alarming symptoms such as difficulty breathing to use one example. People of all ages are experiencing or having trouble breathing when contracting this virus. Even healthy individuals in their twenties are experiencing some level of shortness in breath

Staying on top of health and knowing how to fight this virus correctly is important. Even those who are healthy as fuk right now, what happens if they catch the virus after a weekend of cheat meals, alcohol, poor sleep from partying and put their system through that kind of strain? Will that make a difference? There are so many variables that will play a part in how each individual handles this virus and the disease. Hopefully everyone makes the right choices to allow their bodies to effectively kill off the virus quickly after infection

If you're feeling terrible and think you're sick, learning and practicing prone positioning and treating symptoms early will be a crucial step to take early on. Protecting the lungs early during any early signs of distress should be priority IMO. I never had to consider any of this in the past but now it's apparent that this novel coronavirus is a fair bit rougher and potentially, deadlier, than your typical cold or flu and should be treated as such. I think the precautions everyone is taking are appropriate and I think that you should consider your health bro. Nobody wants to live in fear, but it is best to not write this virus off as the flu or like the flu, because it is not. Even if many are asymptomatic and the ones who do get hit by Covid-19 survive, the implications of SARS-CoV-2 clearly have proven more severe than any flu viruses. This has been observed
I appreciate the response. The more I start to learn about this virus the more skeptical I become. I don’t doubt that people have experienced severe symptoms, both the wife & I had it & it wiped us out pretty good, but after taking a healthy dose of vitamins & supplements for a week, we were back to normal with a small lingering cough. My wife’s client of 94 yrs old beat it within a weekend. People’s immune systems vary..this is what we see all the time.
As far as infection rate being that much higher than the flu..is it? We are using a PCR test..which is a BACTERIA test..not a VIRAL test. Here is Kerry Mullins the creator of the test explaining how it should NEVER be used to test viruses..btw, he “conveniently” died right before the outbreak...

https://mobile.twitter.com/robinmono...33369222029312

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ZmZft4fXhQQ

It is an RNA virus, that means that each time someone gets sick & the virus goes through them, it morphs into a new subtype.
So they are either testing that an individual had CV 7 yrs ago (up to) & now a possible anti-body or are they specifically isolating CoV-2, which is impossible to do, based on length of time it has been present as we know there are 30 sub strains of the virus, for we know the WuHan Virus was different from the strand in Italy, then again different in Iran, then morphed again in New York, & CA..all back in April we were being told this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.new...0-strains.aspx

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lat...al%3f_amp=true

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/co...tudy-finds.amp

We are testing superficial swabs, fecal matter swabs, posterior throat swabs, poked fingered antibodies, so if you get an IGG antibody does that mean you are currently sick but recovering or does it mean, that you have an IGG antibody from the CV 17 yrs ago that you had. If you have an IGM antibody & are a systematic does that mean you are infected & might be spreading..
All the above data is mixed or taken out making all of it have no validity since no true denominator is established. Therefore we have no understanding of incidence prevalence, making death rate completely irrelevant.
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Originally Posted By Yellowbeaver⏩
Guy is an idiot. Why are there so many retards on the misc now?
Sad thing is that he is a 2006 join date.
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covid still a thing?
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I have to get the Ffizer vaccine due to my employer and industry. I already had the virus and was sick as hell, I certainly don't want my guts liquefying and falling out my azzhole.
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My stepdad had the AstraZeneca one and he’s 70 years old.

No side effects.

It’s going to be compulsory to get vaxxed for employment and travel soon.jpg

So you better sack up and accept it srs
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Everyone I know who has been vaccinated has been fine. Zero side effects. Most of them work with vulnerable people or the elderly, so it was a way for them to be more or less protected from getting it and spreading it to the vulnerable populations they work with. Besides these people, nobody I know is considering accepting the vaccine. Basically, in my circle, the ones who will be taking the 2 doses are:

Old and frail
Have some kind of auto-immune deficiency or have compromised immune systems in general
Are in positions where they work directly with vulnerable individuals
Women who are scared of getting covid while pregnant

That's pretty much it. I don't really think I'll take it as I don't work with said populations and I am not worried about getting covid. The downside is that, if I do get it and have to isolate, I don't get paid. I currently work on contract and only get paid for the hours I do work with no backup plan (self-employed). That would be a schitty situation, but fukin a way she goes.
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Originally Posted By BootneckBrah⏩
It’s going to be compulsory to get vaxxed for employment and travel soon.jpg
They can't force it for employment in the states.

Travel, who cares.
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how many people die from cancer/chemo, covid and diabeetus?

i'll take it if it means i can see family, go to dance clubs and visit countries.

tho i'mnot a big fan of the 2nd shot. That's where mnost bad side effects come - or for thowse who already had covid.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
They can't force it for employment in the states.

Travel, who cares.
But businesses can in order to use their services.
This is why they want to take out small businesses.
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I'm just curious about something - how many of you who are fervently against the covid vaccine also happen to be against vaccinations of all kinds? Think about the vaccines we receive as babies and children. Is there a correlation in this thinking? Being a scientist myself, my initial concern was the lack of longitudinal studies with this vaccine that was developed very quickly. That's where my mind went.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Death rate by age group:
0-19yrs is 0.00003%
20-39yrs is 0.0002%
40-59yrs is 0.005%
70+ yrs is 0.054%
pretty sure your numbers are off, multiply by 100 and you get the actual percentage. The numbers presented on the CDC website are in whole numbers, not percentages. Jeez man if you are going through your dissertations and people to take you serious you could actually make sure you don't make silly mistakes like this.

0-19 = 0.003%
20-49 = 0.02%
50-69 = 0.5%
70+ = 5.4%
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Originally Posted By BootneckBrah⏩
My stepdad had the AstraZeneca one and he’s 70 years old.

No side effects.

It’s going to be compulsory to get vaxxed for employment and travel soon.jpg

So you better sack up and accept it srs
Lol that’s such a British culture thing. Across the pond, we don’t have a culture of being under monarch rule, we fight if we have to, rather than just accepting it. (Well a good chunk of us, we do have a lot of bend over and take it soy boys here)
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
I'm just curious about something - how many of you who are fervently against the covid vaccine also happen to be against vaccinations of all kinds? Think about the vaccines we receive as babies and children. Is there a correlation in this thinking? Being a scientist myself, my initial concern was the lack of longitudinal studies with this vaccine that was developed very quickly. That's where my mind went.
I don’t think many people that are against the Covid vaccine are against other vaccines. At least I’m not.

1. Covid is not polio, Ebola, or really some serious disease that is going to cripple or kill me. So there is a lack of serious need to be vaccinated against.

2. There has not been enough time to study the long term effects of this new vaccine. If it’s been around for 15 years and longitudinal studies completed and it turns out to be safe, I’ll consider it then.
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Originally Posted By Paul
But businesses can in order to use their services.
This is why they want to take out small businesses.
they aren't even enforcing mask mandates why would they try to enforce vaccinations?
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
I'm just curious about something - how many of you who are fervently against the covid vaccine also happen to be against vaccinations of all kinds? Think about the vaccines we receive as babies and children. Is there a correlation in this thinking? Being a scientist myself, my initial concern was the lack of longitudinal studies with this vaccine that was developed very quickly. That's where my mind went.
no problem with vaccines. I get a flu shot every year. But I am not getting this vaccine, at least not for several years.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Lol. That’s the point dipchit.
The flu kills 60-80,000 with NO COMORBIDITIES..
Covid kills 20,00 with NO COMORBIDITIES

Wanna guess how many died from the flu with comorbidities..?

You fukin moron lol
There's no more flu. Didn't you hear? It's been eradicated.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
they aren't even enforcing mask mandates why would they try to enforce vaccinations?
They are here in CA, NV, IL, & every other blue state..
post 1631123573 02-11-2021, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
They are here in CA, NV, IL, & every other blue state..
They can't do that as long as the "vaccine" that is under emergency use and not FDA approved.

Also, people are fighting each other for it right now so there's not even enough to go around for the people who want it.
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