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post 1631444533 02-15-2021, 08:29 AM
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Yes, but I think the gun culture in the USA is so imbedded that people cant see "outside the box" that it could in fact be better if there were reforms.
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post 1631444563 02-15-2021, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Darksidi
Yes or No?

And what is your reasoning as to why the US needs or doesn't need it
No...

I was born and raised in a country that you had to be a member of THE ONLY hunting club in the country and all you could legally own was a smoothbore shotgun. No pistols or rifles. Periodically the state would come through and confiscate "illlegally owned" guns and often times said person would also be gone to gulag.


Currently the US can't even enforce the current guns law, why do you think more laws, laws that criminals by nature do not follow, be a solution?
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post 1631444573 02-15-2021, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By immune18
This is such a dumb argument. It is infinitely easier to kill someone with a gun than it is with anything else at all.
Which is why the people in this country dont want the government to solely have that power. The people should be better armed than the government if we followed the founders ideology.

Brrrrpppp, that's my god given machine gun that requires no registration nor taxes.

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post 1631444923 02-15-2021, 08:34 AM
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I'm all for gun control.




I control my gun the same way I control your mama. With my trigger finger.
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post 1631444953 02-15-2021, 08:36 AM
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No, we need nut job control. Lock up the nut jobs and guns are no problem.

And at this point, there are so many guns circulating that attempting to get rid of them will just leave the nut jobs armed and the average honest citizen defenseless. It's not like the nut jobs are going to turn in their ARs.
post 1631445173 02-15-2021, 08:39 AM
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Ban guns then you'll have asylum immigrants attacking everyone with machetes made from lawnmower blades
post 1631445813 02-15-2021, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted By batmanman
Ban guns then you'll have asylum immigrants attacking everyone with machetes made from lawnmower blades
Thank God I live in the UK, I'd hate to have that mindset of insecurity and misinformation!
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post 1631447343 02-15-2021, 09:15 AM
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I don't know if you guys heard but in NYC, one homeless guy went around a subway train and stabbed 4 people randomly. Two died. They are calling him the "Subway Ripper". The police did catch the guy and guess what, he was already arrested twice for violent assaults and each time, he was let go.

The fact is that people now (more than ever) lack faith in the justice department and ability of police to protect them so that insecurity causes people to find ways to protect themselves and their families.
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post 1631448553 02-15-2021, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By al****orilla
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It’s a beast. My buddy got an AR from some poverty company for like 1k, I’m like bro my big dik ar from rock river with 6 mags and a scope and after market stock and 300 rounds cost me 800 bucks 4 years ago.

The problem is everyone all of a sudden is a gun owner, so prices goes up to absurd prices
Nice! Keep it well oiled and clean it well every time you shoot it. Sometimes that ak ammo can be corrosive.
post 1631448743 02-15-2021, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted By clive
Thank God I live in the UK, I'd hate to have that mindset of insecurity and misinformation!
How are those acid attacks and stabbings going? Have you banned assault knives yet?
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post 1631449663 02-15-2021, 09:56 AM
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No, the only people who will be affected by gun laws are people who obey the law. Criminals will still get weapons illegally and law abiding people will be defenseless.
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post 1631449683 02-15-2021, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By radrd
No, we need nut job control. Lock up the nut jobs and guns are no problem.

And at this point, there are so many guns circulating that attempting to get rid of them will just leave the nut jobs armed and the average honest citizen defenseless. It's not like the nut jobs are going to turn in their ARs.
This. If they implemented some more controls and didn't make it so easy for mentally disturbed people to get weapons then probably mass shootings would go down. But now you can purchase a gun without any paperwork or license at a gun show or out of the trunk of a car without even trying.

It would take a massive effort to cut down on guns. Also, because the US is basically run on a state by state level for these things you'd never get all fifty buying in and it's a waste of time.
post 1631450283 02-15-2021, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted By immune18
This is such a dumb argument. It is infinitely easier to kill someone with a gun than it is with anything else at all.
Remember that time a guy in Nice, France, killed 87 people just driving a truck? Driving is a LOT easier than using a gun.
Would kick em in the nuts
post 1631450813 02-15-2021, 10:17 AM
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Gun control is just the same as all the other dumb stuff the government does to fuk with the people.
post 1631451643 02-15-2021, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol
Guns in citizen hands are to prevent government tyranny. They are 100% necessary. Every genocide in history was precluded by gun confiscation.

If you want less murders then push for more mandatory life sentences and capitol punishments for those who murder others in cold blood. (When there is no argument to be made for self-defense).

Look at the stats: A guy robs a 7/11 and shoots the clerk, he gets caught and goes to jail for like 10-20 years tops. Then he's back out and does it again. This is the problem, not guns.

An unprovoked murder should result in the execution of the murderer in my opinion. An eye for an eye. This is how it used to be in America and the second they started being lenient on murderers is the second it got out of hand.
Agree 100%. We should have straight out public execution of anyone who commits cold blooded murder or sexually abusing a child. Guns aren’t the problem, it’s the fact that our system has gone soft.

Take the Night Stalker killer for example, this guy killed soooo many people brutally and raped children. He died in jail of cancer before we killed him. One of the worst things is dental work is extremely expensive to the public, yet while this murderer was in prison he gets brand new teeth.... wtf even?
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post 1631451653 02-15-2021, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By al****orilla
I bought an AK (Romanian)during March after the lock down with 1000 bullets and 3 mags and a drum mag for 1100, fast forward to today, and that whole set is worth almost 2600, with the bullets included.
I still have a little over a case of Wolf 7.62x39 left from when Century would occasionally put them on sale for $89/case delivered.
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post 1631451953 02-15-2021, 10:32 AM
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Gun control is doing wonders for Chicago.


Gun control is right about women.
post 1631455713 02-15-2021, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Supaduck0
Kinda not happening so I don't see the point of arguing the point. I feel bad for People who get shot in cold blood tho
they have congress


they will bring back federal assault weapon ban in a stricter form than before
post 1631455823 02-15-2021, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Antoine99
Remember that time a guy in Nice, France, killed 87 people just driving a truck? Driving is a LOT easier than using a gun.
cant sue the truck manufacturer but they think you should be able to sue the gun manufacturer when their product works as designed.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
This. If they implemented some more controls and didn't make it so easy for mentally disturbed people to get weapons then probably mass shootings would go down. But now you can purchase a gun without any paperwork or license at a gun show or out of the trunk of a car without even trying.

It would take a massive effort to cut down on guns. Also, because the US is basically run on a state by state level for these things you'd never get all fifty buying in and it's a waste of time.
why do people still believe this
post 1631456183 02-15-2021, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By batmanman
Ban guns then you'll have asylum immigrants attacking everyone with machetes made from lawnmower blades
Knives and other cutting instruments kill almost 4x the people all rifle types combined in the US do. Per the FBI UCR.
Being anti-2nd Amendment is like saying "We have too many rights, please take some away!"
post 1631456363 02-15-2021, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Antoine99
Remember that time a guy in Nice, France, killed 87 people just driving a truck? Driving is a LOT easier than using a gun.


But I dont care srsly keep your guns
There's too many people on this planet anyway
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post 1631456423 02-15-2021, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
But now you can purchase a gun without any paperwork or license at a gun show or out of the trunk of a car without even trying.

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Buying from a licensed dealer, even at gun shows, requires paperwork and a background check. Buying from a licensed dealer anywhere, even online, requires paperwork. Buying from a private citizen does not. It's not the government's business what goes on between two individuals. Plus, it's still illegal to knowingly sell a firearm to someone who cannot legally have one. It's still illegal to buy a firearm, regardless of who is selling, if you cannot legally own one.


Big difference and you're making it sound like it's all the same thing.
Being anti-2nd Amendment is like saying "We have too many rights, please take some away!"
post 1631456493 02-15-2021, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By al****orilla
I bought an AK (Romanian)during March after the lock down with 1000 bullets and 3 mags and a drum mag for 1100, fast forward to today, and that whole set is worth almost 2600, with the bullets included.
Where are you seeing people pay ridiculous prices on those? I'd sell my WASR right now if its worth that much
post 1631456543 02-15-2021, 11:33 AM
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More people die from automobile accidents that are 100% avoidable but I don't see anyone yelling at the top of their lungs to find ways to save those lives. (...)
Oh, the US shoulddefinitelyhave better public transportation.
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No. The US needs government, corrupt politicians, and lobbyist control, not to mention addressing Big Tech and Media control.

The reason they want gun control, is because people are waking up to ^^^^^ are the real problem in America.
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No. Gun control doesn’t work. It was never even created for safety. It was only created to keep guns out of the hands of minorities. It was never about safety.


It doesn’t work plus, and more importantly, there’s this whole 2nd amendment thing. So yeah get fuked
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Originally Posted By clive
Yes, but I think the gun culture in the USA is so imbedded that people can see "outside the box" that it could in fact be better if there were reforms.
Wow big arms!
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New guns shouldn't be made. The guns we have, let them be or give incentives for them to be turned in somehow.. New gun creation as a concept should only exist in the virtual world(ie video games)



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