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Thread: Misc Firearms Crew LXXIX: Tax Stamps, Background Checks, and Mag Caps

post 1631535593 02-16-2021, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
Now is the time to sell then buy...... IMPORTS.


Import bans can happen quick. You guys should have plenty 30rd mags by now.
If Biden bans ammo imports what then? My new AK gonna be worthless AF.

Agree on mags wish I would have bought less mags and more ammo. Didn’t see the ammo thing coming. I thought having a couple thousand rounds of each caliber would be enough to last. Ima be fooked in a year or so at this rate.
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Haven’t had any good discussions lately:

I’ll go : I haven’t staked my castle nut on one of my AR’s and it’s been fine for thousands of rounds.

Will I get slotted first in the boog unless I sacrifice my castle nut to the staking gods?
I am also interested in this
Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
sold 2010 glock 23 gen3 with 4 mags, 100 rds FMJ, 50 rds HP, and holster for $400 a couple weeks ago.
Gonna assume you sold that to a friend

Or there were unmentioned sexual favors thrown in the deal as well
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
If Biden bans ammo imports what then? My new AK gonna be worthless AF.

Agree on mags wish I would have bought less mags and more ammo. Didn’t see the ammo thing coming. I thought having a couple thousand rounds of each caliber would be enough to last.
There's more to imports than just AKs though. Plus, if you're panic buying a gun of a caliber you don't have ammunition for then you should already calculate what it'd take to get a stash started.
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Haven’t had any good discussions lately:

I’ll go : I haven’t staked my castle nut on one of my AR’s and it’s been fine for thousands of rounds.

Will I get slotted first in the boog unless I sacrifice my castle nut to the staking gods?
Originally Posted By IlChosenOne⏩
I am also interested in this


Gonna assume you sold that to a friend

Or there were unmentioned some sexual favors thrown in the deal as well
Staked one castle nut on my Spike's, didn't on another Anderson. Probably 3k rounds through either and as far as I can tell staking it didn't really matter. I didn't stake it on the Anderson since I wasn't sure if I would end up switching things around and now just can't be bothered. Maybe for a duty rifle that will be beaten, dragged, and dropped a lot it would make sense.
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post 1631536293 02-16-2021, 10:46 AM
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'Biden' isn't banning all ammo imports.

But, if he did, ammo prices and availability problems would extend far beyond commie calibers. They would be the worse, by far, of course, but, I mean...IMI, PPU/Prvi, PMC, Magtech/CBC, RWS, Lapua, Fiocchi, Aguila, Geco, S&B, Yavex, basically all milsurp ammo including all the NATO cartridge stuff and obviously all combloc ammo..and on and on and on. Remove all of those from the supply and say hello to $5/round 5.56. But that's like predicting $10/gal gas national avg
post 1631536683 02-16-2021, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
'Biden' isn't banning all ammo imports.

But, if he did, ammo prices and availability problems would extend far beyond commie calibers. They would be the worse, by far, of course, but, I mean...IMI, PPU/Prvi, PMC, Magtech/CBC, RWS, Lapua, Fiocchi, Aguila, Geco, S&B, Yavex, basically all milsurp ammo including all the NATO cartridge stuff and obviously all combloc ammo..and on and on and on. Remove all of those from the supply and say hello to $5/round 5.56. But that's like predicting $10/gal gas national avg
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post 1631536903 02-16-2021, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Definition of meh lol

If you could get $700 for the gun by itself, no magazines, no ammo, no holster, just the gun...that would be time to sell.
lol, yeah I know. I'm sure I could've gotten double that, but he's a good friend. Tried talking him into getting a 9mm, but he was dead set on a .40. Was going to sell it anyway.
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post 1631537093 02-16-2021, 10:55 AM
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And if anyone wants to get into AKs I'd go for the 5.45x39. You can still stockpile plenty of 7N6 rounds. I think it's a superior round in terms of damage. Check out ballistic comparisons between 7.62x39, 5.45x39 and 5.56x45. Plenty of gel block videos you can reference on youtube.
post 1631537193 02-16-2021, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
And if anyone wants to get into AKs I'd go for the 5.45x39. You can still stockpile plenty of 7N6 rounds. I think it's a superior round in terms of damage. Check out ballistic comparisons between 7.62x39, 5.45x39 and 5.56x45.
Is one really going to make someone more dead over another though?
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post 1631537313 02-16-2021, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32⏩
Is one really going to make someone more dead over another though?
Within the context of rifle rounds fired out of a rifle length barrel...it's hard to go wrong
post 1631537373 02-16-2021, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Within the context of rifle rounds fired out of a rifle length barrel...it's hard to go wrong
Shot placement > Round type.
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post 1631537493 02-16-2021, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32⏩
Is one really going to make someone more dead over another though?
The wound cavity of the 545 starts very early. It was nicknamed the "poison bullet" because of how many people would bleed out some time after being shot. So, potentially? Depends on how many times you can land a shot. If you're hitting proper shots I'd say caliber doesn't matter as much, obviously.

post 1631538363 02-16-2021, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
The wound cavity of the 545 starts very early. It was nicknamed the "poison bullet" because of how many people would bleed out some time after being shot. So, potentially? Depends on how many times you can land a shot. If you're hitting proper shots I'd say caliber doesn't matter as much, obviously.

Not sure if graph is from bullet tests, or sex ed.

Centimeters of penetration.
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post 1631538753 02-16-2021, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
The wound cavity of the 545 starts very early. It was nicknamed the "poison bullet" because of how many people would bleed out some time after being shot. So, potentially? Depends on how many times you can land a shot. If you're hitting proper shots I'd say caliber doesn't matter as much, obviously.

Where’s da m193
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post 1631538893 02-16-2021, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
And if anyone wants to get into AKs I'd go for the 5.45x39. You can still stockpile plenty of 7N6 rounds. I think it's a superior round in terms of damage. Check out ballistic comparisons between 7.62x39, 5.45x39 and 5.56x45. Plenty of gel block videos you can reference on youtube.
With what's available to us peasants in the commercial market, 5.56 and x39 outperform 5.45 in terminal ballistics. 7n6 has been banned from import for years. It's now getting close to the same price as non corrosive 5.45 ammo. In the slim chance Biden bans imported ammo, 5.45 would take the biggest hit. US manufacturers have made 7.62x39 in the past but I don't think 5.45 has ever been manufactured here. If someone in the US started to mass produce 5.45 rounds, don't expect it to be as cheap as 5.56(in normal times)
post 1631539133 02-16-2021, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
With what's available to us peasants in the commercial market, 5.56 and x39 outperform 5.45 in terminal ballistics. 7n6 has been banned from import for years. It's now getting close to the same price as non corrosive 5.45 ammo. In the slim chance Biden bans imported ammo, 5.45 would take the biggest hit. US manufacturers have made 7.62x39 in the past but I don't think 5.45 has ever been manufactured here. If someone in the US started to mass produce 5.45 rounds, don't expect it to be as cheap as 5.56(in normal times)
From what I’ve read US manufactured x39 would cost more than 5.56 as well.
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post 1631539403 02-16-2021, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Where’s da m193
Has M193 ever been military issue for combat?
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Has M193 ever been military issue for combat?
Idk I thought it was hence the military nomenclature. It’s what I have most of.

Someone google this for us pronto!

Edit: per this article yes.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rea...14140.amp.html
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post 1631540783 02-16-2021, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Idk I thought it was hence the military nomenclature. It’s what I have most of.

Someone google this for us pronto!

Edit: per this article yes.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rea...14140.amp.html
Doesn't really say when exactly. For the US...has it been like 40 years since it was?
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Doesn't really say when exactly. For the US...has it been like 40 years since it was?
Think it said it was replaced by m855 in the 90’s.
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Think it said it was replaced by m855 in the 90’s.
That's not what I see.

Can you quote where it says M193 was used into the 90s? What I see indicates no 193 use by US military in combat after 1980



". The Belgian round, the SS109, won the trials and was designated as the standard NATO infantry rifle cartridge under NATO Standardization Agreement (STANAG) 4172 in 1980. Most NATO nations adopted the SS109 as their first 5.56 round. The United States adopted it as the M855, painting the tip green to allow soldiers to easily differentiate it from older M193 ammunition.

The ammunition used by the soldier was the M855 “green-tip” projectile, adopted by the U.S. Army and Marines in the 1980s.

The M16A2 and M855 combination was used by the U.S. Army and the U.S. Marines through the 1980s and into the 1990s

The Mk262 offered better terminal performance in flesh and ballistic performance compared to M855, even when fired from short carbines. Early in the post 9/11 era, most SOCOM units switched to the Mk262 round for all their 5.56 weapons. The USMC also ordered Mk262 in limited quantities in the mid-2000s.

This round was called Mk318 Special Operations Science and Technology (SOST). It was adopted by SOCOM in 2007, replacing the use of Mk262 in most roles"
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Anyone got a battle belt and have some recommendations?
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Anyone got a battle belt and have some recommendations?
Cheap and has held up fine with regular use for over a year now.

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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
That's not what I see.

Can you quote where it says M193 was used into the 90s? What I see indicates no 193 use by US military in combat after 1980



". The Belgian round, the SS109, won the trials and was designated as the standard NATO infantry rifle cartridge under NATO Standardization Agreement (STANAG) 4172 in 1980. Most NATO nations adopted the SS109 as their first 5.56 round. The United States adopted it as the M855, painting the tip green to allow soldiers to easily differentiate it from older M193 ammunition.

The ammunition used by the soldier was the M855 “green-tip” projectile, adopted by the U.S. Army and Marines in the 1980s.

The M16A2 and M855 combination was used by the U.S. Army and the U.S. Marines through the 1980s and into the 1990s

The Mk262 offered better terminal performance in flesh and ballistic performance compared to M855, even when fired from short carbines. Early in the post 9/11 era, most SOCOM units switched to the Mk262 round for all their 5.56 weapons. The USMC also ordered Mk262 in limited quantities in the mid-2000s.

This round was called Mk318 Special Operations Science and Technology (SOST). It was adopted by SOCOM in 2007, replacing the use of Mk262 in most roles"
Yea looks like it said it was replaced or were testing replacements ad early as 1979.

Guess I need to get an A2 clone.
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
I haven’t staked my castle nut on one of my AR’s and it’s been fine for thousands of rounds.
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Anyone got a battle belt and have some recommendations?
The warrior poet society ones are good. Inner belt through loops and an outer velcro belt over it
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Originally Posted By Rajeev762x39⏩
Should I stake it real quick ? I have all the tools just want to see if it will ever come loose. I have other ones I can grab for the apocalypse that are staked.

Should I mag dump a thousand rounds through it to see? His many rounds you think until I can safely say “hey, this thing isn’t coming off.” 5k? A tactical response class?
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
That's not what I see.

Can you quote where it says M193 was used into the 90s? What I see indicates no 193 use by US military in combat after 1980



". The Belgian round, the SS109, won the trials and was designated as the standard NATO infantry rifle cartridge under NATO Standardization Agreement (STANAG) 4172 in 1980. Most NATO nations adopted the SS109 as their first 5.56 round. The United States adopted it as the M855, painting the tip green to allow soldiers to easily differentiate it from older M193 ammunition.

The ammunition used by the soldier was the M855 “green-tip” projectile, adopted by the U.S. Army and Marines in the 1980s.

The M16A2 and M855 combination was used by the U.S. Army and the U.S. Marines through the 1980s and into the 1990s

The Mk262 offered better terminal performance in flesh and ballistic performance compared to M855, even when fired from short carbines. Early in the post 9/11 era, most SOCOM units switched to the Mk262 round for all their 5.56 weapons. The USMC also ordered Mk262 in limited quantities in the mid-2000s.

This round was called Mk318 Special Operations Science and Technology (SOST). It was adopted by SOCOM in 2007, replacing the use of Mk262 in most roles"
My good friend who is a marine swears he was issued m193 from 2008 - 2012.

I still think he's mistaken. But he genuinely said he'd never seen green tips before.

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Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
My good friend who is a marine swears he was issued m193 from 2008 - 2012.

I still think he's mistaken. But he genuinely said he'd never seen green tips before.

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Maybe it was the M855A1, don’t think those have green tips. Or one the other variants mentioned.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
The warrior poet society ones are good. Inner belt through loops and an outer velcro belt over it
https://whenallelsefailskits.com/col...im-battle-belt

Would I need that if I wanna toss some mags on the belt?
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