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02-19-2021, 04:41 PM
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Coding bootcamps, worth it?
I want to get into programming, and I heard bootcamps can be a good alternative to school. It's expensive, around 10k, but if it can get me a software job after just 6 months then that works for me.
Anyone have experience with it?
Anyone have experience with it?
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02-19-2021, 04:46 PM
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My friend did a 6 month one at Georgia tech (great school), still can’t find a job after 2 years. He said you should have another degree or work experience in a technical field to make it worth it otherwise employers will just gloss over you every single time. His only previous experience before the boot camp was retail + bartending.
He said there’s a ton of work in programming but there’s also a ton of programmers because it can be self taught and there’s tons of skilled immigrants + Indians + Chinese that will work for fuking pennies that you are competing with. You can make it work but the field is pretty saturated imo. It’s hard for even 4 yr comp sci degree bros to get a good first job I’ve heard.
After you get a first good job it should be easy from there on, much like any other field.
He said there’s a ton of work in programming but there’s also a ton of programmers because it can be self taught and there’s tons of skilled immigrants + Indians + Chinese that will work for fuking pennies that you are competing with. You can make it work but the field is pretty saturated imo. It’s hard for even 4 yr comp sci degree bros to get a good first job I’ve heard.
After you get a first good job it should be easy from there on, much like any other field.
02-19-2021, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By ralphlaurenbrah⏩
I thought they always lold @ tradies for getting outsourced by Mexicans ?My friend did a 6 month one at Georgia tech (great school), still can’t find a job after 2 years. He said you should have another degree or work experience in a technical field to make it worth it otherwise employers will just gloss over you every single time. His only previous experience before the boot camp was retail + bartending.
He said there’s a ton of work in programming but there’s also a ton of programmers because it can be self taught and there’s tons of skilled immigrants + Indians + Chinese that will work for fuking pennies that you are competing with. You can make it work but the field is pretty saturated imo. It’s hard for even 4 yr comp sci degree bros to get a good first job I’ve heard.
After you get a first good job it should be easy from there on, much like any other field.
He said there’s a ton of work in programming but there’s also a ton of programmers because it can be self taught and there’s tons of skilled immigrants + Indians + Chinese that will work for fuking pennies that you are competing with. You can make it work but the field is pretty saturated imo. It’s hard for even 4 yr comp sci degree bros to get a good first job I’ve heard.
After you get a first good job it should be easy from there on, much like any other field.
02-19-2021, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By ralphlaurenbrah⏩
Pretty much this. If it’s that easy, everyone would be doing it.My friend did a 6 month one at Georgia tech (great school), still can’t find a job after 2 years. He said you should have another degree or work experience in a technical field to make it worth it otherwise employers will just gloss over you every single time. His only previous experience before the boot camp was retail + bartending.
He said there’s a ton of work in programming but there’s also a ton of programmers because it can be self taught and there’s tons of skilled immigrants + Indians + Chinese that will work for fuking pennies that you are competing with. You can make it work but the field is pretty saturated imo. It’s hard for even 4 yr comp sci degree bros to get a good first job I’ve heard.
After you get a first good job it should be easy from there on, much like any other field.
He said there’s a ton of work in programming but there’s also a ton of programmers because it can be self taught and there’s tons of skilled immigrants + Indians + Chinese that will work for fuking pennies that you are competing with. You can make it work but the field is pretty saturated imo. It’s hard for even 4 yr comp sci degree bros to get a good first job I’ve heard.
After you get a first good job it should be easy from there on, much like any other field.
02-19-2021, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By ralphlaurenbrah⏩
So he dished out around 10k and couldn't find a job? Damn, what a wasteMy friend did a 6 month one at Georgia tech (great school), still can’t find a job after 2 years. He said you should have another degree or work experience in a technical field to make it worth it otherwise employers will just gloss over you every single time. His only previous experience before the boot camp was retail + bartending.
He said there’s a ton of work in programming but there’s also a ton of programmers because it can be self taught and there’s tons of skilled immigrants + Indians + Chinese that will work for fuking pennies that you are competing with. You can make it work but the field is pretty saturated imo. It’s hard for even 4 yr comp sci degree bros to get a good first job I’ve heard.
After you get a first good job it should be easy from there on, much like any other field.
He said there’s a ton of work in programming but there’s also a ton of programmers because it can be self taught and there’s tons of skilled immigrants + Indians + Chinese that will work for fuking pennies that you are competing with. You can make it work but the field is pretty saturated imo. It’s hard for even 4 yr comp sci degree bros to get a good first job I’ve heard.
After you get a first good job it should be easy from there on, much like any other field.
I know one friend who did the bootcamp and found a job, but he networked and had a degree in another field which probably helped
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02-19-2021, 04:59 PM
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can be, but you need to work on a **** ton of projects on your own time. The bootcamp wont be enough.
02-19-2021, 05:03 PM
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It can be a great place to start OP.
But ultimately when it comes to programming, it's going to come down to how dedicated you are to the craft. There are a million run of the mill coders out there. Bootcamp isn't going to get you a good job. You gotta show you know you **** inside and out if you want to make money. Takes a lot of time coding on your own, working on projects etc before you'll be able to impress anyone.
But ultimately when it comes to programming, it's going to come down to how dedicated you are to the craft. There are a million run of the mill coders out there. Bootcamp isn't going to get you a good job. You gotta show you know you **** inside and out if you want to make money. Takes a lot of time coding on your own, working on projects etc before you'll be able to impress anyone.
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02-19-2021, 05:10 PM
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Honestly all I'm looking for is a quick education to start in this new career and make money asap. I haven't even started and don't think I'd have a passion for it, but I still think I'd be good at it which is why I'm interestedI have a feeling you shouldn't be looking at just programming jobs if you do one of those bootcamps.. programming is like the most basic job you can get in the software industry, there's a lot of other things you could be doing with a programming background
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02-19-2021, 05:13 PM
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02-19-2021, 05:15 PM
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no just teach urself to get into programming now you either have to be a god at programming or have a CS degree from a decent school
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02-19-2021, 05:18 PM
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Just completed a 7 1/2 month coding bootcamp, FOR ME, it was worth it skill wise. Ive been a wordpress designer(to put it lightly) for 6 years now and i wanted to deep dive into the world of programming, which is why i took the bootcamp, personally i loved it. Only issues with it was that you learn to many languages in a short period of time. Every month was a new language pretty much. While I did get interview because of it I do have past experience working at companies as jr website developer. And no i dont have a degree of any kind besides the bootcamp cert.
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02-19-2021, 05:20 PM
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Teach yourself. There are many resources out there for beginner coders. Think of a fun project which you would like to make and work on building it, improving it, and creating other projects with better code and more advanced topics.
If you don't like teaching yourself, you can enroll at coursera for free or similar websites. You won't get the privileges of a worthless certificate and graded assignments, but you'll still be getting exposed to coding principles and topics.
Teach yourself. There are many resources out there for beginner coders. Think of a fun project which you would like to make and work on building it, improving it, and creating other projects with better code and more advanced topics.
If you don't like teaching yourself, you can enroll at coursera for free or similar websites. You won't get the privileges of a worthless certificate and graded assignments, but you'll still be getting exposed to coding principles and topics.
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02-19-2021, 05:26 PM
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Do you think you would've gotten an interview without the prior experience? Sounds like it's only recommended for people who already have some experience in coding and/or a degree in whatever fieldJust completed a 7 1/2 month coding bootcamp, FOR ME, it was worth it skill wise. Ive been a wordpress designer(to put it lightly) for 6 years now and i wanted to deep dive into the world of programming, which is why i took the bootcamp, personally i loved it. Only issues with it was that you learn to many languages in a short period of time. Every month was a new language pretty much. While I did get interview because of it I do have past experience working at companies as jr website developer. And no i dont have a degree of any kind besides the bootcamp cert.
Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Thanks I'll look into that site. Self-learning has always been a problem for me to push myself. Easy to be lazyNO
Teach yourself. There are many resources out there for beginner coders. Think of a fun project which you would like to make and work on building it, improving it, and creating other projects with better code and more advanced topics.
If you don't like teaching yourself, you can enroll at coursera for free or similar websites. You won't get the privileges of a worthless certificate and graded assignments, but you'll still be getting exposed to coding principles and topics.
Teach yourself. There are many resources out there for beginner coders. Think of a fun project which you would like to make and work on building it, improving it, and creating other projects with better code and more advanced topics.
If you don't like teaching yourself, you can enroll at coursera for free or similar websites. You won't get the privileges of a worthless certificate and graded assignments, but you'll still be getting exposed to coding principles and topics.
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02-19-2021, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Amp30⏩
Well my first big coding job i had zero experience (besides wordpress), and i still got the job so anything is possible. At the time i didnt even know html /cssDo you think you would've gotten an interview without the prior experience? Sounds like it's only recommended for people who already have some experience in coding and/or a degree in whatever field
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02-19-2021, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By ShortMonster⏩
What year was that? Pre 2014-2016?Well my first big coding job i had zero experience (besides wordpress), and i still got the job so anything is possible. At the time i didnt even know html /css
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OP are you completely switching careers? Do you have a STEM background? If so go for a Masters srs, it's the same amount of time or even less time as a Bachelors and you'll just have to take a few prereqs courses.
If you don't have any sort of STEM background it will be hard for them to accept you, if you have a random college degree go for a Post-baccalaureate such as the one OSU offers. It's 2 years instead of the whole 3 or 4 you'd have to do otherwise. You can then do a Masters if you wish but you should have the knowledge and the degree to secure a job by then.
Either one of those two options is way better than dealing with the uncertainty of a coding bootcamp which is also pretty damn expensive.
If you don't have any sort of STEM background it will be hard for them to accept you, if you have a random college degree go for a Post-baccalaureate such as the one OSU offers. It's 2 years instead of the whole 3 or 4 you'd have to do otherwise. You can then do a Masters if you wish but you should have the knowledge and the degree to secure a job by then.
Either one of those two options is way better than dealing with the uncertainty of a coding bootcamp which is also pretty damn expensive.
02-19-2021, 05:40 PM
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I don't have a degree but I do have a decent amount of money saved up and a lot of time to commit to some type of schooling. I was just hoping I wouldn't have to go the 4 year comp sci route to land a job. The sooner the better.OP are you completely switching careers? Do you have a STEM background? If so go for a Masters srs, it's the same amount of time or even less time as a Bachelors and you'll just have to take a few prereqs courses.
If you don't have any sort of STEM background it will be hard for them to accept you, if you have a random college degree go for a Post-baccalaureate such as the one OSU offers. It's 2 years instead of the whole 3 or 4 you'd have to do otherwise. You can then do a Masters if you wish but you should have the knowledge and the degree to secure a job by then.
Either one of those two options is way better than dealing with the uncertainty of a coding bootcamp which is also pretty damn expensive.
If you don't have any sort of STEM background it will be hard for them to accept you, if you have a random college degree go for a Post-baccalaureate such as the one OSU offers. It's 2 years instead of the whole 3 or 4 you'd have to do otherwise. You can then do a Masters if you wish but you should have the knowledge and the degree to secure a job by then.
Either one of those two options is way better than dealing with the uncertainty of a coding bootcamp which is also pretty damn expensive.
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02-19-2021, 05:46 PM
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Bootcamps can be worth it but there are too many people who treat it like they do an IT certification. Simply doing it won't get you a job. The bootcamp is to teach you enough that you can practice on your own/complete projects to show during interviews.
If a bootcamp will help get you into coding then its absolutely worth it. If you can truly dedicate time to learn without it then it isn't. Either way, it isn't the bootcamp that gets you the job. It's what you can show you learned.
If a bootcamp will help get you into coding then its absolutely worth it. If you can truly dedicate time to learn without it then it isn't. Either way, it isn't the bootcamp that gets you the job. It's what you can show you learned.
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Originally Posted By Amp30⏩
Don't program. If you don't have a passion for it you're gonna hate your life. Also don't bootcamp. They're not worth it because you can learn any programming for free with web resources and you can just pay for a few certs to show you have basic aptitude. Certs suck, but HR is the gatekeeper and HR is dumb as bricks.Honestly all I'm looking for is a quick education to start in this new career and make money asap. I haven't even started and don't think I'd have a passion for it, but I still think I'd be good at it which is why I'm interested
If you can't find the desire to program by using all of the free resources online then it's not for you. I'm not being a dick, I'm just giving you a fair warning.
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Not worth it, everything taught in coding bootcamps can be self taught via learning resources online for free or a mere fraction of the price a bootcamp would set you back by
Employers don't care if you've gone through x bootcamp or y bootcamp, but rather that you have the aptitude and attitude
Employers don't care if you've gone through x bootcamp or y bootcamp, but rather that you have the aptitude and attitude
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I know people who have had good results from Nashville software school.
Take a look at Launchcode too, I’m pretty sure it’s free and you don’t pay anything until you have a job. They usually have companies who will come to them asking for employees and the school takes a cut from getting you on with them kind of like a recruiter.
Take a look at Launchcode too, I’m pretty sure it’s free and you don’t pay anything until you have a job. They usually have companies who will come to them asking for employees and the school takes a cut from getting you on with them kind of like a recruiter.
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