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post 1632820073 03-03-2021, 07:09 AM
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How do you define becoming a man?

Is it to do with body, mind, sex, job, or none of those things?

And what disqualifies someone from manhood?
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****
When you stop being a little *******, fuk some girls and start making life changing moves in your life
Not quite what I had in mind...
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I found this movie did a really good job of bottling what it means to be a man in the modern world.

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I think of life like a video game, an MMO. Every character on an MMO has different skills and attributes, and levels in those respectively.

I think of life as the same. You want to max out your skill and attributes over time, & helping people do the same as well. Always providing value & a positive vibe. Sticking to your principles & morals.
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post 1632820923 03-03-2021, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted By TomWanks
I found this movie did a really good job of bottling what it means to be a man in the modern world.

The guy on the right is supposed to be more manly?
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Nevermind, it's this:
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Having offspring and ensuring they succeed.

Anything else is PURE COPE, the whole point of being a man is to spread your seed.
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Originally Posted By Tonyy926
I think of life like a video game, an MMO. Every character on an MMO has different skills and attributes, and levels in those respectively.

I think of life as the same. You want to max out your skill and attributes over time, & helping people do the same as well. Always providing value & a positive vibe. Sticking to your principles & morals.
This is how I cope with nihilism, both are equally worthless but you want to achieve your max potential and have as much fun as you can along the way.
Nothing I post is serious.
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Originally Posted By orangetide
Having offspring and ensuring they succeed.

Anything else is PURE COPE, the whole point of being a man is to spread your seed.
You think? But spreading your seed and committing yourself to rearing children aren't the same thing.
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Originally Posted By orangetide
Having offspring and ensuring they succeed.

Anything else is PURE COPE, the whole point of being a man is to spread your seed.
Animals fight to coom, not procreate

Nothing I post is serious.
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For me itโ€™s a physical thing, how you carry yourself, what kind of energy you give off, what kind of presence you have, your ability to defend yourself, etc.

People can say it has to do with your goals or financial success but thatโ€™s not true in my opinion. However I do think maturity and security is a large part of becoming a man.

If we have to guys for example.

Guy 1 - Fit, strong, capable of defending himself, natural leadership ability, exudes animal magnetism, likes more typically masculine hobbies, is attractive, etc. But lives with parents or rents an apartment, doesnโ€™t have a lot of cash, doesnโ€™t have a car and isnโ€™t married.

Guy 2 - Beta male, letโ€™s wife wear the pants in the relationship, doesnโ€™t lift, cowardly, scared of confrontation, frequents Starbucks often, canโ€™t defend himself. But he is wealthy, has a car, and own his own home.

In my opinion guy #1 is more of a man, because of how he presents himself and because in a primitive setting he would be the dominate male between the two men.
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Originally Posted By ukr1410
You think? But spreading your seed and committing yourself to rearing children aren't the same thing.
No chit sherlok, but cant commit to ensuring your kids success if you dont get them made first.

Unless you adopt or some chit.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower
For me itโ€™s a physical thing, how you carry yourself, what kind of energy you give off, what kind of presence you have, your ability to defend yourself, etc.

People can say it has to do with your goals or financial success but thatโ€™s not true in my opinion. However I do think maturity and security is a large part of becoming a man.

If we have to guys for example.

Guy 1 - Fit, strong, capable of defending himself, natural leadership ability, exudes animal magnetism, likes more typically masculine hobbies, is attractive, etc. But lives with parents or rents an apartment, doesnโ€™t have a lot of cash, doesnโ€™t have a car and isnโ€™t married.

Guy 2 - Beta male, letโ€™s wife wear the pants in the relationship, doesnโ€™t lift, cowardly, scared of confrontation, frequents Starbucks often, canโ€™t defend himself. But he is wealthy, has a car, and own his own home.

In my opinion guy #1 is more of a man, because of how he presents himself and because in a primitive setting he would be the dominate male between the two men.
Very interesting. My own understanding of manliness is someone who is emotionally balanced, aware of other people's needs, determined, loyal, and symbolically is physically strong, impressive, gives off masculine / testosterone vibes.
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A man = adult human male. I don't know why you'd need to qualify something that already is categorically defined by sex.
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Originally Posted By redraider86
A man = adult human male. I don't know why you'd need to qualify something that already is categorically defined by sex.
I don't think males automatically become men. I mean, male = male sex, sure. But a man is something that is created, developed, etc.
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Originally Posted By ukr1410
The guy on the right is supposed to be more manly?
Just watch the movie brah.
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Originally Posted By ukr1410
I don't think males automatically become men. I mean, male = male sex, sure. But a man is something that is created, developed, etc.
I see. Yeah, you're either one or you aren't. This is just repackaged wacky gender ideology IMO.
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Originally Posted By redraider86
I see. Yeah, you're either one or you aren't. This is just repackaged wacky gender ideology IMO.
Do you think? The default sex is female. Maleness and masculinity is something other, isn't it?
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Originally Posted By ukr1410
Do you think? The default sex is female. Maleness and masculinity is something other, isn't it?
Negged for implying there is a difference between men and women and negged again on r/c for implying there are only two genders BIGOT.
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Originally Posted By ukr1410
Do you think? The default sex is female. Maleness and masculinity is something other, isn't it?
Masculinity are just feelings and opinions, maleness is not. Being a female disqualifies women from being men. Sometimes I wonder if I'm autism based on the convos I have on here lol
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Originally Posted By ukr1410
Very interesting. My own understanding of manliness is someone who is emotionally balanced, aware of other people's needs, determined, loyal, and symbolically is physically strong, impressive, gives off masculine / testosterone vibes.
I think there is different examples of โ€œmenโ€ I donโ€™t think there is a one size fits all label. But when I think of a โ€œreal manโ€ two textbook examples come to mind immediately.

Example 1 - James Dean, at least the characters he would play. He fits the label that you described fairly well. He was a confident man, had style, stood up for himself and people he cared about, but was also soft when he needed to be. He appealed to women because he could be both gentile and rugged. He wasnโ€™t a strong man or big man physically, but he wasnโ€™t afraid of conflict and could handle himself in combat. For the most part he was soft spoken. He kept much of his style simple but wasnโ€™t afraid to be stylish and he was well groomed. He was also a bit of a risk taker. He was a symbol of rebellion for young men in his generation.

Example 2 - Marlon Brando in his early films like The Wild One, A Streetcar Named Desire, and On The Waterfront. He was a guy who exuded that animal magnetism, that obvious masculinity. He was a strong and athletically built man, who had a strong presence and a no nonsense attitude. He was less reserved than James Dean, more of a hot head. A modern day equivalent to him would be someone like a Tom Hardy.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks
Negged for implying there is a difference between men and women and negged again on r/c for implying there are only two genders BIGOT.
I never said that, though. Usually people fall into XY or XX chromosomes, which mark out their biological sex. But gender is now understood to be on a spectrum, although the majority of people still fall within one of two types of gender.
Originally Posted By SicilianPower
I think there is different examples of โ€œmenโ€ I donโ€™t think there is a one size fits all label. But when I think of a โ€œreal manโ€ two textbook examples come to mind immediately.

Example 1 - James Dean, at least the characters he would play. He fits the label that you described fairly well. He was a confident man, had style, stood up for himself and people he cared about, but was also soft when he needed to be. He appealed to women because he could be both gentile and rugged. He wasnโ€™t a strong man or big man physically, but he wasnโ€™t afraid of conflict and could handle himself in combat. For the most part he was soft spoken. He kept much of his style simple but wasnโ€™t afraid to be stylish and he was well groomed.

Example 2 - Marlon Brando in his early films like The Wild One, A Streetcar Named Desire, and On The Waterfront. He was a guy who exuded that animal magnetism, that obvious masculinity. He was a strong and athletically built man, who had a strong presence and a no nonsense attitude. He was less reserved than James Dean, more of a hot head. A modern day equivalent to him would be someone like a Tom Hardy.
And the fact that both were bisexual?
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Originally Posted By ukr1410
I never said that, though. Usually people fall into XY or XX chromosomes, which mark out their biological sex. But gender is now understood to be on a spectrum, although the majority of people still fall within one of two types of gender.



And the fact that both were bisexual?
So was Rock Hudson and Gary Cooper who are also good examples of men that I could have used almost as easily.

Not sure what that has to do with anything though, I donโ€™t think that makes someone any more or less a man necessarily. Are you implying that makes them more masculine? Or are you saying that itโ€™s ironic that they are symbols of masculinity despite their bisexuality because that isnโ€™t seen as a stereotypically masculine thing?
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