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**Un-OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XIII -- Robber Baron Edition
03-03-2021, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Like the poster above said, some inflation is good. It’s a byproduct of gdp growth. Unchecked inflation is dangerous though (see Venezuela). I don’t think anyone can truly know what the outcome will be due to the amount of brrr over the past year. There are groups on both sides of the argument much smarter than us plebs so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. In the meantime, looks like tech/growth sectors will keep taking a hit. The more delayed a companies future cash flows are the less valuable the company is today (in valuation, future cash flows are divided by a discount rate, so the higher the rate, the lower the present value of those future cash flows).Do they really care? They printed trillions for the lols during the pandemic dip, surely they would have foreseen this and have no plans to increase rates. Jpow can't be that much of a retard to get blindsided by inflation right? Right?
03-03-2021, 10:00 AM
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Wait wait wait........Some of you didn't take profits on RKT yesterday???!!!!!!
Hopefully you guys learned this tough lesson.
Hopefully you guys learned this tough lesson.
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03-03-2021, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted By NoScrubz⏩
So I should start loading up on puts?Like the poster above said, some inflation is good. It’s a byproduct of gdp growth. Unchecked inflation is dangerous though (see Venezuela). I don’t think anyone can truly know what the outcome will be due to the amount of brrr over the past year. There are groups on both sides of the argument much smarter than us plebs so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. In the meantime, looks like tech/growth sectors will keep taking a hit. The more delayed a companies future cash flows are the less valuable the company is today (in valuation, future cash flows are divided by a discount rate, so the higher the rate, the lower the present value of those future cash flows).
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03-03-2021, 10:08 AM
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03-03-2021, 10:13 AM
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OPEC+ wants those high oil prices too. Despite what people want to say about low production costs in the middle east, they need high prices to support their economies that are almost entirely dependent on O&G
03-03-2021, 10:14 AM
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what happened to that guy that dropped his RKT shares right before the spike? lmaoo sorry m8 come get deeze reps
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03-03-2021, 10:15 AM
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How can anyone be surprised at rkt? You ****s. Nobody knows when or by how much. But this is pretty damn predictable. Many of you have noticed the "trend"
It's the only trend I believe in
Wsb pumps it then it dumps.
It's the only trend I believe in
Wsb pumps it then it dumps.
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03-03-2021, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
lmao. Looks like he might have deleted that post.what happened to that guy that dropped his RKT shares right before the spike? lmaoo sorry m8 come get deeze reps
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03-03-2021, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Galindo62⏩
I mean.... you could have said that GME "pump" was over when it pumped to $11/share back in Sep....How can anyone be surprised at rkt? You ****s. Nobody knows when or by how much. But this is pretty damn predictable. Many of you have noticed the "trend"
It's the only trend I believe in
Wsb pumps it then it dumps.
It's the only trend I believe in
Wsb pumps it then it dumps.
it continued on to $480.
these types of scenarios are unpredictable AF in real life.
03-03-2021, 10:29 AM
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I can't thank enough the brah who recommended CPE a few weeks ago.
CPE and WTI are keeping me green
CPE and WTI are keeping me green
03-03-2021, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
on second entry or initial ?Got out at 33.50 rip still profits
why did you not get out yesterday when it was $42.
pretty sure nobody else was holding RKT here
this was bound to happen if anyone saw GME first pump and dump
btw yesterday call/put ratio was 95 to 1 on RKT
today call/put ratio 60 to 40.
in other words hedge funds loaded the phuck up yesterday on puts to ride gains on way down.
since wsb is heavy calls group.
03-03-2021, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Venom08⏩
Damn bro, I have issues with women but I don't think I hate them like you do.Imagine investing in a woman ran fund with ARKK. lmfaooo good luck with your success goals of 2021. Can't trust women to run anything more than a kitchen tbh. So she bought ZM yesterday and doubled down on TSLA? What a moron. States are reopening and TSLA can swing down to 300 easily.
03-03-2021, 10:40 AM
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buy ARK
03-03-2021, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted By SouthDakotaBrah⏩
If you believe the economy is coming back roaring for mainstreet and things are getting better then you definitely shouldn't buy ARK. Just saying.buy ARK
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03-03-2021, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
ARK portfolio looks heavy on growth stocks.If you believe the economy is coming back roaring for mainstreet and things are getting better then you definitely shouldn't buy ARK. Just saying.
Like how much can ZOOM grow when everything is re opening.
How its going tech sectors seems to be fading.
Rotation going toward materials energy.
03-03-2021, 10:50 AM
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Oh God. Here we go again with the "sector shifting"
But regardless when it shot up to 11 it dropped to 8 when it shot up to 24 it dropped to 18
Some call credit spreads would have been fairly easy ttades
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Smaller market caps are less predictable. And I'm aware you can't really predict anything.I mean.... you could have said that GME "pump" was over when it pumped to $11/share back in Sep....
it continued on to $480.
these types of scenarios are unpredictable AF in real life.
it continued on to $480.
these types of scenarios are unpredictable AF in real life.
But regardless when it shot up to 11 it dropped to 8 when it shot up to 24 it dropped to 18
Some call credit spreads would have been fairly easy ttades
I used to have an AVI of my traps and neck. I changed it a while back and tried editing my user title but this website is glitched and it will not let me change it anymore.
03-03-2021, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
I’m keeping companies like zoom on my radar and will see if I can get in for a nice discount. I think the markets may be overestimating the impact of reopening on some of these companies. IMO many will continue to work from home permanently moving forward. The post Covid world may be much different than what we expect.ARK portfolio looks heavy on growth stocks.
Like how much can ZOOM grow when everything is re opening.
How its going tech sectors seems to be fading.
Rotation going toward materials energy.
Like how much can ZOOM grow when everything is re opening.
How its going tech sectors seems to be fading.
Rotation going toward materials energy.
03-03-2021, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Just because the economy is re-opening, doesn't mean people are going to stop using zoom. I think it's a questionable buy, but it makes up a small percentage of the portfolio and I'm sure we'll see her reasoning on the move eventually. It's likely a long buy and that makes sense to me.ARK portfolio looks heavy on growth stocks.
Like how much can ZOOM grow when everything is re opening.
How its going tech sectors seems to be fading.
Rotation going toward materials energy.
Like how much can ZOOM grow when everything is re opening.
How its going tech sectors seems to be fading.
Rotation going toward materials energy.
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03-03-2021, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By NoScrubz⏩
I think market priced Zoom in already for next earnings.I’m keeping companies like zoom on my radar and will see if I can get in for a nice discount. I think the markets may be overestimating the impact of reopening on some of these companies. IMO many will continue to work from home permanently moving forward. The post Covid world may be much different than what we expect.
They had amazing earnings and it went to shiit.
Feels like they know next quarter they won't have the same revenue growth.
Originally Posted By _zman⏩
True, probably lot won't be going back to office. Just that it seems market priced it in.Just because the economy is re-opening, doesn't mean people are going to stop using zoom. I think it's a questionable buy, but it makes up a small percentage of the portfolio and I'm sure we'll see her reasoning on the move eventually. It's likely a long buy and that makes sense to me.
All ARK has had amazing growth since inception. Last month there was huge outflow from ARK ETF.
If she stops producing 50+ percent returns will everyone stay on board for long haul.
Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
I don't think anyone is roasting you.I didn’t get out yesterday because 1. I try to not have weak hands and 2. I can’t tell the future (still working on it).
Lettuce be real tea- if it was at 55 I would be praised, and getting out at 33.5 I, of course, get roasted.
Still made money... just less lmao
Lettuce be real tea- if it was at 55 I would be praised, and getting out at 33.5 I, of course, get roasted.
Still made money... just less lmao
Profit is profit.
03-03-2021, 11:23 AM
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Zoom is here to stay and will continue to grow, but it definitely won't at the same rate. Slower growth will inevitably hurt the stock price.
Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Will probably go back to 25 by next week.Sold all my Dogecoin and bought in RKT at 30.55 like a ratard
Hodl!
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
Agreed.Posted this in main misc. Will post here too:
We saw a sharp sell-off in growth stocks due to a rapid rise in long-dated interest rates and it seems to me that the bulk of the selling is probably behind us. I don’t think this is anything to be overly concerned with for a few reasons:
1) The Fed has made it clear they will not make any changes to rates in the near future.
2) Rising interest rates is actually a good thing – it means the economy is doing well and economic activity is starting to pick back up.
3) The Fed is still expanding its balance sheet by purchasing $125 Billion worth of bonds each month. Historically, there is a tight correlation between this type of QE and the equity markets.
4) The primary trend in equities is UP and the major central banks are still buying assets/expanding their balance sheet. As long as this is the case, the path of least resistance for equities is likely to be UP.
5) Given the high debt levels all over the world, deflationary forces of ageing demographics in the developed world and technological innovation, I am of the view that long-term interest rates will not go much higher anytime soon.
Solid businesses which are rapidly growing should bounce back and the Fed’s easy monetary policies will continue to remain a tailwind for risk assets, in my opinion.
With this, I just put another big chunk of cash in this week.
We saw a sharp sell-off in growth stocks due to a rapid rise in long-dated interest rates and it seems to me that the bulk of the selling is probably behind us. I don’t think this is anything to be overly concerned with for a few reasons:
1) The Fed has made it clear they will not make any changes to rates in the near future.
2) Rising interest rates is actually a good thing – it means the economy is doing well and economic activity is starting to pick back up.
3) The Fed is still expanding its balance sheet by purchasing $125 Billion worth of bonds each month. Historically, there is a tight correlation between this type of QE and the equity markets.
4) The primary trend in equities is UP and the major central banks are still buying assets/expanding their balance sheet. As long as this is the case, the path of least resistance for equities is likely to be UP.
5) Given the high debt levels all over the world, deflationary forces of ageing demographics in the developed world and technological innovation, I am of the view that long-term interest rates will not go much higher anytime soon.
Solid businesses which are rapidly growing should bounce back and the Fed’s easy monetary policies will continue to remain a tailwind for risk assets, in my opinion.
With this, I just put another big chunk of cash in this week.
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Originally Posted By NoScrubz⏩
I think things will return more or less to normal, and I can't wait to get back to having meetings in person instead of through MS Teams and fukn screen sharing. Only been working from home since the middle of December and I already miss being in the presence of lots of other people on a regular basisI’m keeping companies like zoom on my radar and will see if I can get in for a nice discount. I think the markets may be overestimating the impact of reopening on some of these companies. IMO many will continue to work from home permanently moving forward. The post Covid world may be much different than what we expect.
Some corners of the tech industry might plow ahead with remote work, but I already know my executives are chomping at the bit to get people physically in the office again
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why is Leftcicle creating stock market threads Misc main forum?
you trying to confirm you know where market is going and looking for reps or some shiit?
you trying to confirm you know where market is going and looking for reps or some shiit?
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Still holding RKT . . . although not a huge chunk of change in the grand scheme of things (100 shares @ $20.40). Bought it as a long term hold and looks like it might remain that way. Just going to see how it pans out. Still up, just not as much.
Could have taken profit yesterday and dumped it into something else. Didn't. That's ok. The way my luck goes, I would have sold it and it would have pumped higher afterwards.
Could have taken profit yesterday and dumped it into something else. Didn't. That's ok. The way my luck goes, I would have sold it and it would have pumped higher afterwards.
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Coinbase and Roblox next week.
what could possibly go wrong.
I am going for Roblox. Coinbase gonna have big volatility due to crypto swings imo.

what could possibly go wrong.
I am going for Roblox. Coinbase gonna have big volatility due to crypto swings imo.

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[QUOTE=Carbonfibre post_id=1632840893]Coinbase and Roblox next week.
what could possibly go wrong.
I am going for Roblox. Coinbase gonna have big volatility due to crypto swings imo.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/fVTI1q7.png[/im][/QUOTE]coinbase is easily the most profitable app of all time on a per-user basis. The fees are staggering, and people are addicted to crypto gains.
It's like a casino where people feel sophisticated for losing money to it.
what could possibly go wrong.
I am going for Roblox. Coinbase gonna have big volatility due to crypto swings imo.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/fVTI1q7.png[/im][/QUOTE]coinbase is easily the most profitable app of all time on a per-user basis. The fees are staggering, and people are addicted to crypto gains.
It's like a casino where people feel sophisticated for losing money to it.
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