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**Un-OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XIII -- Robber Baron Edition
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Originally Posted By mikusk⏩
This. The guy is a funny troll, I enjoy his posts and lol at anyone who takes him seriously.I am actually starting to like this guy for his master trolling skills.
Why be beta divident income cuck if you can triple your cash instantly boiiis, he is right ya kno
Why be beta divident income cuck if you can triple your cash instantly boiiis, he is right ya kno
03-03-2021, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I made a separate account for options and a lil bit of gambling. Turned $1k into $12k with calls only on PLTR during the run up to 45. Now I'm at $500 ffsWhat did you invest in prior to the loss?
Originally Posted By NoScrubz⏩
Yeah I had a separate account for options only lolAre you using your whole account on options or something?
Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
Haha man I don't even have the option to hold. My calls just expire worthless.Sorry to hear about your state of mind but don't panic my man and don't sell.
Originally Posted By Venom08⏩
Yeah my last 4k is in just PLTR stocks, I can't even sell them cuz then it would be selling lower than what I bought it at.No, since you're down 75%, you should be entering positions that are worth no more than 5% of your account. Do options, get in and out whenever you're up 30-50% and don't risk more than a couple hundred dollars per trade.
03-03-2021, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Venom08⏩
inb4 this insteadTargeting $275/280 on qqq by mid March
https://imgur.com/a/7ouqq5f
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Originally Posted By LCBOLeo⏩
Follow the guy I recommended on discord. Ez money. Btw I lost 70% of my account from gme so I know how it feels. Don't get into any meme stocks, I don't trust any of them. I consider anything wallstreetbets is in as a meme stocks meaning there's going to be huge pumps and dumps.Brah I am so fuking tilted. Im down from 16k to just 4k. I want to grab this fuking 4k I have left, pop a *****, and just go crazy on PLTR calls. It HAS to stop being a lil bich one day right? God damnnnn, and my fuking work put me down to just working one day a week I can't invest with my $200 paycheques lmfao. Srs brahs. I'm going thru some **** rn. Should I yolo PLTR calls or does anyone have any better suggestions.
03-03-2021, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted By roughinhouse⏩
Not familiar with how to join discord, isn't an invite link required? Could you please shoot me an invite link?Follow the guy I recommended on discord. Ez money.
03-03-2021, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted By LCBOLeo⏩
Can't share the link but download discord on your desktop, click the search servers button, search eagle investors, join, and only listen to kindredd. The other ones aren't nearly as good.Not familiar with how to join discord, isn't an invite link required? Could you please shoot me an invite link?
03-03-2021, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By LCBOLeo⏩
Imagine how much money is changing accounts on a daily basis and just the sheer amount of fees etc banks/brokerages must be raking in on the huge increase in trading volumesI made a separate account for options and a lil bit of gambling. Turned $1k into $12k with calls only on PLTR during the run up to 45. Now I'm at $500 ffs
Today Person A wins and Person B loses, tomorrow Person B wins and Person A loses. Money changes accounts but there's one party who always wins in the end -- companies facilitating the trades
The whole GME fiasco and all this insane volatility is probably the big bois playing 4D chess with the banks/brokerages to increase retail trading interest and boost their revenues
03-03-2021, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
It 100% is. Robinhood sells order flow data to Citadel, big funds front run the pump, short right before the dump, rinse and repeat.Imagine how much money is changing accounts on a daily basis and just the sheer amount of fees etc banks/brokerages must be raking in on the huge increase in trading volumes
Today Person A wins and Person B loses, tomorrow Person B wins and Person A loses. Money changes accounts but there's one party who always wins in the end -- companies facilitating the trades
The whole GME fiasco and all this insane volatility is probably the big bois playing 4D chess with the banks/brokerages to increase retail trading interest and boost their revenues
Today Person A wins and Person B loses, tomorrow Person B wins and Person A loses. Money changes accounts but there's one party who always wins in the end -- companies facilitating the trades
The whole GME fiasco and all this insane volatility is probably the big bois playing 4D chess with the banks/brokerages to increase retail trading interest and boost their revenues
03-03-2021, 05:47 PM
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been bagholding palantir for a week i hope it moons.


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03-03-2021, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
stocks? They'll go back up eventually. Options, well that sucks.Down like $27k total this past week.
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03-03-2021, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
Damn! I'd be in a frenzy. This thing can be very stressfulDown like $27k total this past week.
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03-03-2021, 06:41 PM
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sitting through these bearish portions of the market was easy before I learned about WSB, this thread, and "active" investing
used to just throw stuff in ETF and check in once a month
now constantly glued to the screen and fomo'ing watching WSB pump and dumpers make $100k per trade on blood red days
used to just throw stuff in ETF and check in once a month
now constantly glued to the screen and fomo'ing watching WSB pump and dumpers make $100k per trade on blood red days
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03-03-2021, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted By PositiveCrew⏩
Don't spend time going over gain posts that get upvoted to top.sitting through these bearish portions of the market was easy before I learned about WSB, this thread, and "active" investing
used to just throw stuff in ETF and check in once a month
now constantly glued to the screen and fomo'ing watching WSB pump and dumpers make $100k per trade on blood red days
used to just throw stuff in ETF and check in once a month
now constantly glued to the screen and fomo'ing watching WSB pump and dumpers make $100k per trade on blood red days
9 million subscribers on wsb someone will always be on the right side of the trade.
look at both to get reality check that trading is not easy (especially what wsb loves to do weekly calls)
compare these two
https://ns.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbe...ct_sr=on&t=day
vs
https://ns.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbe...ct_sr=on&t=day
you will find gems like this
yesterday those calls were worth $120K and he didn't sell.

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Originally Posted By roughinhouse⏩
Unrealized losses from stocks, fortunatelystocks? They'll go back up eventually. Options, well that sucks.
Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
No kidding. I did put another $40k total in stocks on the way down tho.Damn! I'd be in a frenzy. This thing can be very stressful
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03-03-2021, 07:53 PM
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Your stocks will go back up (srs)
03-03-2021, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted By SouthDakotaBrah⏩
Just keep buying into ARK, right? (srs)Your stocks will go back up (srs)
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03-03-2021, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By roughinhouse⏩
What? LolFollow the guy I recommended on discord. Ez money. Btw I lost 70% of my account from gme so I know how it feels. Don't get into any meme stocks, I don't trust any of them. I consider anything wallstreetbets is in as a meme stocks meaning there's going to be huge pumps and dumps.
That’s ridiculous. What does pump and dump mean to you?
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Appreciate itDon't spend time going over gain posts that get upvoted to top.
9 million subscribers on wsb someone will always be on the right side of the trade.
look at both to get reality check that trading is not easy (especially what wsb loves to do weekly calls)
compare these two
https://ns.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbe...ct_sr=on&t=day
vs
https://ns.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbe...ct_sr=on&t=day
you will find gems like this
yesterday those calls were worth $120K and he didn't sell.

9 million subscribers on wsb someone will always be on the right side of the trade.
look at both to get reality check that trading is not easy (especially what wsb loves to do weekly calls)
compare these two
https://ns.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbe...ct_sr=on&t=day
vs
https://ns.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbe...ct_sr=on&t=day
you will find gems like this
yesterday those calls were worth $120K and he didn't sell.

I know what to avoid looking at, but it's like a car crash - you just can't stop lookingWere you the one I was discussing covered calls and thetagang with earlier?
All the calls I sold are down 70%+, could easily rebuy for profit, but then what do I turn around and do?
To get more value I would have to sell lower strike prices (probably below my cost basis), or sell further out strike dates (odds that market gains 20% back by April, May, etc?)
not sure which is better or how to take advantage of buying to close CC's
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Originally Posted By PositiveCrew⏩
You and the market haven't reached panic mode if you don't wake up 15 minutes before market opening to buy/sell then go back to sleep and set alarm for the press conference or congress vote 4 hours later.sitting through these bearish portions of the market was easy before I learned about WSB, this thread, and "active" investing
used to just throw stuff in ETF and check in once a month
now constantly glued to the screen and fomo'ing watching WSB pump and dumpers make $100k per trade on blood red days
used to just throw stuff in ETF and check in once a month
now constantly glued to the screen and fomo'ing watching WSB pump and dumpers make $100k per trade on blood red days
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_decline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse#By_absorption
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Huge pumps in a short period of time followed by a massive crash usually caused by large institutional traders. E.g: RKT which just happened yesterdayWhat? Lol
That’s ridiculous. What does pump and dump mean to you?
That’s ridiculous. What does pump and dump mean to you?
03-03-2021, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
Those feels, brah. Down $26k since mid-Feb. Still up for the year, but hurts riding that descent into redness. Sad thing is that DOW isn’t even really down that much over that timeframe. Hang in there. We’ll get the cash back soon ...... I hope.Down like $27k total this past week.
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03-03-2021, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By roughinhouse⏩
Ok so to me that’s a good thing. It means we can predict what will happen. For example I saw RKT going up and I bought it at 29 and sold at 40.Huge pumps in a short period of time followed by a massive crash usually caused by large institutional traders. E.g: RKT which just happened yesterday
I’m trying to figure out how it going up and then down is somehow bad? To me it’s free information. You see a stock is “hot” and you can tell it’s definitely gonna go up and then you sell when you think it’s reaching or at the top.
If you know what it’s gonna do thats more than enough info to trade it. So what if it goes down eventually? At least it went up to which means trading opportunity. As opposed to a stock not being “hot”. It’s better for it to rise and fall than to never or rarely rise in the first place.
So I’m confused how some of you bros see that as a derogatory term.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Eh i dont see it as bad, its an easy way to make a quick buck. The only thing bad is that huge institutional traders can easily manipulate the market with no repercussions when they're losing cause the SEC is a joke like what happened with GME.Ok so to me that’s a good thing. It means we can predict what will happen. For example I saw RKT going up and I bought it at 29 and sold at 40.
I’m trying to figure out how it going up and then down is somehow bad? To me it’s free information. You see a stock is “hot” and you can tell it’s definitely gonna go up and then you sell when you think it’s reaching or at the top.
If you know what it’s gonna do thats more than enough info to trade it. So what if it goes down eventually? At least it went up to which means trading opportunity. As opposed to a stock not being “hot”. It’s better for it to rise and fall than to never or rarely rise in the first place.
So I’m confused how some of you bros see that as a derogatory term.
I’m trying to figure out how it going up and then down is somehow bad? To me it’s free information. You see a stock is “hot” and you can tell it’s definitely gonna go up and then you sell when you think it’s reaching or at the top.
If you know what it’s gonna do thats more than enough info to trade it. So what if it goes down eventually? At least it went up to which means trading opportunity. As opposed to a stock not being “hot”. It’s better for it to rise and fall than to never or rarely rise in the first place.
So I’m confused how some of you bros see that as a derogatory term.
03-03-2021, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Arem24⏩
I’ve decided the first thing to happen...I think they’re are going to increase regardless of what the fed does. Expectations always win.
I don’t have the bandwidth today for it, but I’ll slap together from an Economist’s perspective what the opportunities (and risks) are if yields rise and fed doesn’t.
I don’t have the bandwidth today for it, but I’ll slap together from an Economist’s perspective what the opportunities (and risks) are if yields rise and fed doesn’t.
Let’s play a game. Next Tuesday we will have more significant shakes to tech, ev, etc. that are exacerbated Wednesday and Thursday, and could spiral the fuk out of control. Who wants a cookie for informing the misc the reason why?
Hint: The markets always underestimate the role of the marginal buyer.
Edit: I’m feeling a little jazzy tonight and down to drop some truth bombs.
In the long term there is absolute brilliance to the govt contractor portion and prevailing misconception of PLTR as a defense IT contractor that relies heavily on deployed engineers that spend months on contracts.
If you’ve read Zero to One then you are aware of is that the key to a successful monopoly is disguising that you are one. Example would be google, they have a clear monopoly on web search they might make up 90% of the market of searches (idk do China and India have their own search engines? Don’t care). However, google isn’t a search engine company is it? It’s an advertising company, wearable tech, autonomous cars, etc., you begin adding up how large those industries are, and google is just a small percentage of the overall marketing, search engine, advertising, data, vehicles, software, hardware, etc., world.
Tying this back to Palantir. IMO the second ultimate end game for them is to completely obliterate and dominate in a monopolistic fashion commercial enterprise data integration and basically just making companies better in a data driven, factual way. In doing so they will generate monopolistic profits as well.
Ok, why does this matter?
If Palantir so dominates the commercial market they will be a blatant monopoly with price setting powers, and choosing not to contract with them is the kiss of death, they will be broken up or significantly regulated.
However, Palantir is not a data integration integration company. They are also consultants (now we add in companies like McKinsey, Bain, etc.) they’re a government contractor (now we add in companies like Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing, etc.) they’re a software company (Microsoft, etc.) , they’re a platform and SaaS company (CRM, etc.), they’re a security company (Norton, Kaspersky, etc.) etc. company.
Dominating government contracts is great and they’ll do that, but with government contracts you can’t demand an outrageous premium, there isn’t a significant pricing advantage when you’re the best option. If you charge monopolistic profit prices, the govt will say fukk off we’ll go with second best or do it ourselves.
In the commercial world, if you’re Coke and the difference between competing with Pepsi and going bankrupt is getting on the Palantir train after Pepsi jumped
On? You’ll pay through the nose.
Also, we know the greatest innovations come from military. Dem budgets. I can’t imagine the military won’t create synergy with PLTR product development that will translate to commercial sector applications.
Btw, the ultimate pie in the sky end game for Palantir? They become ubiquitous with IoT and develop consumer applications. BRB our lives get better because Palantir aggregates all of our life data and finds efficiencies and paths to human happiness through optimized decision options.
Like I said, very jazzy.
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Originally Posted By USAPump⏩
Buy commodities immediately.Anyone wanna pray rn before the onslaught to come tmrrw ?
Tech and EV is going to continue to get crushed this month.
Boomer stocks are mooning.
03-03-2021, 11:36 PM
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Dear lord, please don’t let wall street get spooked by the FEDs speeches lord... and please watch over our exist strategies this week amenAnyone wanna pray rn before the onslaught to come tmrrw ?
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