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BRB have an accounting firm, BRB clear 400k, brb have 6 staff doing actual accounting work, brb all I do is sales/bsns development/client meetings/golf/work less than 35 hours. Absolute goat life when you have other ppl doing the work for you lol just lol
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Originally Posted By UtahHiker⏩
Would you want a redo and pick something else if you could?Got a business degree, broke into software sales, and have been cruising ever since. I could've gotten any degree to be fair, but it is what it is.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Economics is good in so much that it teaches you how to think, but alone isn’t very practical. It’s the opposite side of the coin to accounting which is extremely practical, but not intuitive at all and won’t help you make big picture connectionsThey want to run a business. There is nothing inherently wrong with the idea of a business degree. It's just that it's an incredibly unrigorous degree. Economics is probably the better option, but even then, it's a pretty unrigorous degree unless you do quantitative econ and take analysis.
Double major in both will equip you well tbh. But they are generally the most difficult business degrees
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Because it's an easy as pie degree and you can still party your face off in college.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
FixedIf you can get a job with an English major, you can get a job easily with Barista major.
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I got a finance degree and ended up selling insurance lol. After a couple of years I used that experience to get a job in claims though. I really enjoy it.
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
This is exactly why businesses are constantly trying to lower the costs of and/or out source. Cost center vs. Revenue generatorLol @ criticizing accountants. They are one of the smarter and hardest business degrees.
You have to slave your first 1-3 years in big 4 but after that you can easily make $85-$100k at a boutique working 35-40 hrs a week. The best thing about it is it’s a support role.There’s no real stress of trying to make the company money. Just do your reconciliations and month end tasks and it’s smooth sailing. The work can be boring though but your opportunities are endless and you’ll never be out of a job. BRB every firm needs an accounting department. BRB this thread is cope cause op couldn’t pass intermediate accounting in uni.
You have to slave your first 1-3 years in big 4 but after that you can easily make $85-$100k at a boutique working 35-40 hrs a week. The best thing about it is it’s a support role.There’s no real stress of trying to make the company money. Just do your reconciliations and month end tasks and it’s smooth sailing. The work can be boring though but your opportunities are endless and you’ll never be out of a job. BRB every firm needs an accounting department. BRB this thread is cope cause op couldn’t pass intermediate accounting in uni.
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knew this was an accounting cope thread from the first two words. "Excluding accounting" lmao
accountants and bookkeepers are some of the biggest wagecucks in industry. they get straight up mogged by high financiers and they are below lawyers in terms of prestige
imagine being a glorified clerk. fukkin lol

accountants and bookkeepers are some of the biggest wagecucks in industry. they get straight up mogged by high financiers and they are below lawyers in terms of prestige
imagine being a glorified clerk. fukkin lol

03-11-2021, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By me12inch⏩
Coping Literature major detected.knew this was an accounting cope thread from the first two words. "Excluding accounting" lmao
accountants and bookkeepers are some of the biggest wagecucks in industry. they get straight up mogged by high financiers and they are below lawyers in terms of prestige
imagine being a glorified clerk. fukkin lol

accountants and bookkeepers are some of the biggest wagecucks in industry. they get straight up mogged by high financiers and they are below lawyers in terms of prestige
imagine being a glorified clerk. fukkin lol

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I don't do it but I always thought being a certified financial planner is a cake job. Especially now. Go work for Schwab or something and it's all remote I imagine.
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
One of my college buddies is a financial planner and he says he plays vidya on his work computer for at least 4 hours a day. He makes good money tooI don't do it but I always thought being a certified financial planner is a cake job. Especially now. Go work for Schwab or something and it's all remote I imagine.
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JFL at getting a degree at all. Most aren’t tailored enough to make you a valuable asset. Brb learned nothing from GE classes that I didn’t already learn in high school. Brb all technical skills acquired from certification training and OTJ training.
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Originally Posted By me12inch⏩
Financier = insurance salesman from a practical standpointknew this was an accounting cope thread from the first two words. "Excluding accounting" lmao
accountants and bookkeepers are some of the biggest wagecucks in industry. they get straight up mogged by high financiers and they are below lawyers in terms of prestige
imagine being a glorified clerk. fukkin lol

accountants and bookkeepers are some of the biggest wagecucks in industry. they get straight up mogged by high financiers and they are below lawyers in terms of prestige
imagine being a glorified clerk. fukkin lol

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CPA >
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Order is debatable, but accounting will always be on top. If you get confused, just remember A+ is for accounting.
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Got a business degree and then wound up going back for an Electronics degree. Should have done Electronics from the start.
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
this.Lol @ criticizing accountants. They are one of the smarter and hardest business degrees.
You have to slave your first 1-3 years in big 4 but after that you can easily make $85-$100k at a boutique working 35-40 hrs a week. The best thing about it is it’s a support role. There’s no real stress of trying to make the company money. Just do your reconciliations and month end tasks and it’s smooth sailing. The work can be boring though but your opportunities are endless and you’ll never be out of a job. BRB every firm needs an accounting department. BRB this thread is cope cause op couldn’t pass intermediate accounting in uni.
You have to slave your first 1-3 years in big 4 but after that you can easily make $85-$100k at a boutique working 35-40 hrs a week. The best thing about it is it’s a support role. There’s no real stress of trying to make the company money. Just do your reconciliations and month end tasks and it’s smooth sailing. The work can be boring though but your opportunities are endless and you’ll never be out of a job. BRB every firm needs an accounting department. BRB this thread is cope cause op couldn’t pass intermediate accounting in uni.
consider the big 4 an extra couple years of school you get paid intern type money for.
there is no faster/more guaranteed way of becoming 100k crew before age 30 than cpa.
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A chit ton of corps will hire you for just having a degree. Business degrees are pretty easy to get.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
Business if they aren't sure what they want to do? Seems like the general studies of the bachelor degrees.What Bachelor's would you want people to get instead?
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Generally pretty easy programs. I did Management Information Systems through the business school. Was the 12th ranked MIS program in the US at the time.
I probably studied for about 2 hours a week and finished with a 3.6 GPA. Now I'm a senior level technical guy managing project teams mostly composed of computer science major nerds who slaved forever learning algorithms and discrete math or whatever.
Any degree is as useful as the person who has it.
I probably studied for about 2 hours a week and finished with a 3.6 GPA. Now I'm a senior level technical guy managing project teams mostly composed of computer science major nerds who slaved forever learning algorithms and discrete math or whatever.
Any degree is as useful as the person who has it.
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Originally Posted By basedcap⏩
This. While at my frm we don't hire CPA for banking, our competitors are starting to hire former big 4 CPAs that switched from assurance to an internal m&a role. While these candidates are slightly older, I've heard nothing but great things about them.this.
consider the big 4 an extra couple years of school you get paid intern type money for.
there is no faster/more guaranteed way of becoming 100k crew before age 30 than cpa.
consider the big 4 an extra couple years of school you get paid intern type money for.
there is no faster/more guaranteed way of becoming 100k crew before age 30 than cpa.
Show's how competitive it's becoming though. These candidates are ~27-28 and are willing to be an ibanking analyst. Have to mire the grit some of them show to get into banking.
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Strong delusion ITT. Business degree + MBA offers far more opportunity and potential career growth than most STEMies.
For example, your directors of departments and C-suiters are far more likely to have business backgrounds than STEM. For every CTO or whatever STEM designation you've got CFO, COO, VP Finance, CEO, etc that are far more likely to have business backgrounds.
And for a real world exampleno e-stats, I'm in corporate finance and we're looking to hire a financial analyst with a couple of years experience but MBA not required. I'll pay at least $80k and up to $100k for this position. Finance manager make $130k, directors make $170k, etc.
I'm certainly not knocking STEMies at all. But if you don't like/can't handle the math required of STEM and you have a good work effort and decent personality, business is a great way to go.
For example, your directors of departments and C-suiters are far more likely to have business backgrounds than STEM. For every CTO or whatever STEM designation you've got CFO, COO, VP Finance, CEO, etc that are far more likely to have business backgrounds.
And for a real world exampleno e-stats, I'm in corporate finance and we're looking to hire a financial analyst with a couple of years experience but MBA not required. I'll pay at least $80k and up to $100k for this position. Finance manager make $130k, directors make $170k, etc.
I'm certainly not knocking STEMies at all. But if you don't like/can't handle the math required of STEM and you have a good work effort and decent personality, business is a great way to go.
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I studied business - Accounting - undergrad because I thought I would want to be an engineer, but met the other engineering students and didn't think I would want to spend the rest of my life working with them. I wanted something that would yield a career after school, and a bunch of successful people I knew said to study accounting because it's useful in whatever you end up doing to have an accounting background even if you don't end up in accounting - my uncle for instance was an accountant and started a manufacturing business and sold it 7 years later for $20 Million back in the 90's - he said his accounting background was what enabled his success.
After about 8 years of accounting work, I wanted to say fuk it and become a bartender, but I went to grad school instead - again for business - finance and strategy - and swore I was done with accounting - I worked in FP&A, M&A, Process improvement after grad school, but got stuck at the director level, and ended up going back into accounting for a few years because it's really hard to get hired as a CFO unless you know the CEO or someone on the board of directors, were previously a CFO, or at least have a background as a controller or I Banker. So I put 3 years of controller experience on my resume and I'm a CFO now.
After about 8 years of accounting work, I wanted to say fuk it and become a bartender, but I went to grad school instead - again for business - finance and strategy - and swore I was done with accounting - I worked in FP&A, M&A, Process improvement after grad school, but got stuck at the director level, and ended up going back into accounting for a few years because it's really hard to get hired as a CFO unless you know the CEO or someone on the board of directors, were previously a CFO, or at least have a background as a controller or I Banker. So I put 3 years of controller experience on my resume and I'm a CFO now.
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I don't think they're bad degrees, you need to compliment the education with work experience. You won't really get a good job without 4-5 years solid experience or an ivy league school on your resume. For sure don't take on a bunch of debt for a BBA or similar degree, though.
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking⏩
What'd you make as a director and controller. I'm guessing if you ended your career there you'd still have quite the respectable and well paid career.I studied business - Accounting - undergrad because I thought I would want to be an engineer, but met the other engineering students and didn't think I would want to spend the rest of my life working with them. I wanted something that would yield a career after school, and a bunch of successful people I knew said to study accounting because it's useful in whatever you end up doing to have an accounting background even if you don't end up in accounting - my uncle for instance was an accountant and started a manufacturing business and sold it 7 years later for $20 Million back in the 90's - he said his accounting background was what enabled his success.
After about 8 years of accounting work, I wanted to say fuk it and become a bartender, but I went to grad school instead - again for business - finance and strategy - and swore I was done with accounting - I worked in FP&A, M&A, Process improvement after grad school, but got stuck at the director level, and ended up going back into accounting for a few years because it's really hard to get hired as a CFO unless you know the CEO or someone on the board of directors, were previously a CFO, or at least have a background as a controller or I Banker. So I put 3 years of controller experience on my resume and I'm a CFO now.
After about 8 years of accounting work, I wanted to say fuk it and become a bartender, but I went to grad school instead - again for business - finance and strategy - and swore I was done with accounting - I worked in FP&A, M&A, Process improvement after grad school, but got stuck at the director level, and ended up going back into accounting for a few years because it's really hard to get hired as a CFO unless you know the CEO or someone on the board of directors, were previously a CFO, or at least have a background as a controller or I Banker. So I put 3 years of controller experience on my resume and I'm a CFO now.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
I have a business degree and am a supply chain manger now. Worked out fine for meExcluding accounting and supply chain for discussion.
For finance, I'm referring to those who go to a small no name school where if you graduate, your best bet is to get hired as an insurance salesman.
For finance, I'm referring to those who go to a small no name school where if you graduate, your best bet is to get hired as an insurance salesman.
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Originally Posted By Coldsloth⏩
Supply chain professionals have all these random degrees because there is a lot of demand in the field currently with unmet supply. At some places, my wife has interviewed in the past, she was talking to psychology majors, finance, journalism, high school graduates, and economics, rarely will someone have a supply chain degree (at least in San Diego)I have a business degree and am a supply chain manger now. Worked out fine for me
For example, Texas, Georgia, and California (low in San Diego) are great states for supply chain.
The field itself has weaker employability than accounting, but it's still high in certain areas from what I have seen.
In accounting, it's rare to see a position that doesn't ask for an accounting degree (unless it's bookkeeping). You will occasionally see it asking for finance or economics though.
Supply chain though... It's not at that level yet, so it does have that going for it.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
You can run a business without a degree lolThey want to run a business. There is nothing inherently wrong with the idea of a business degree. It's just that it's an incredibly unrigorous degree. Economics is probably the better option, but even then, it's a pretty unrigorous degree unless you do quantitative econ and take analysis.
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