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03-13-2021, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Ed_Norton_fan⏩
She's lucky the drugs didn't get pulled into his orbit before he even checked the bagThat cop is morbidly obese
03-13-2021, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
better than forcing jailYour argument assumes she would voluntarily agree to rehab. My intuition things she would not. Now what? Do we force rehab? Now it’s another debate on a similar violation of rights.
You’re just obsessed with being a contrarian without realizing the implications of such ideas.
You’re just obsessed with being a contrarian without realizing the implications of such ideas.
yes we should force rehab
we should force a lot of things
if we're gonna be a police state, let's do it right ffs
03-13-2021, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Forced rehab is retarded. Full scale decriminalization with enforcement of traditional crimes only is the only true solution. Criminalization has done nothing to prevent addiction from persisting and makes the outcomes of addiction worseIs it? What is the difference?
Do you figure that rehab, as provided by the government, will be some grand relaxation and peaceful setting?
Once to scale it will just be a prison with, less guards and more “doctors”.
Again, your dreams of whatsoundsgood in order tolookgood are misguided and impractical.
Do you figure that rehab, as provided by the government, will be some grand relaxation and peaceful setting?
Once to scale it will just be a prison with, less guards and more “doctors”.
Again, your dreams of whatsoundsgood in order tolookgood are misguided and impractical.
03-13-2021, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Difference is rehab works. Jail makes ppl worse and produces gangsters. Jail also ends up costing more.Is it? What is the difference?
Do you figure that rehab, as provided by the government, will be some grand relaxation and peaceful setting?
Once to scale it will just be a prison with, less guards and more “doctors”.
Again, your dreams of whatsoundsgood in order tolookgood are misguided and impractical.
Edit: lol at you recommending something that is tantamount to “spinning 360 degrees and walking away”.
Do you figure that rehab, as provided by the government, will be some grand relaxation and peaceful setting?
Once to scale it will just be a prison with, less guards and more “doctors”.
Again, your dreams of whatsoundsgood in order tolookgood are misguided and impractical.
Edit: lol at you recommending something that is tantamount to “spinning 360 degrees and walking away”.
It would be a prison, but a different kind of prison. You've seen what prisons in Norway are like right? And it would have a goal...to help people get better rather than just punish.
03-13-2021, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
She did not lose her life over weed, she lost her life over shooting at a cop.I think in her mind she probably thought she did nothing wrong. The way she was screaming for help and ran off terrified seems like she might have thought he would harm her once he cuffed her for some reason.
If this kind of chit keeps happening, black people are going to be so scared of cops that they will just shoot them the moment they think they will be arrested. We need to really look at the nature of force here. He really didn't need to cuff her right then. All of this could have been avoided. And idk why he couldn't just keep her detained in a civil manner until backup arrived.
What is dumb is she was being arrested over some weed. She lost her life over some fking weed man.
If this kind of chit keeps happening, black people are going to be so scared of cops that they will just shoot them the moment they think they will be arrested. We need to really look at the nature of force here. He really didn't need to cuff her right then. All of this could have been avoided. And idk why he couldn't just keep her detained in a civil manner until backup arrived.
What is dumb is she was being arrested over some weed. She lost her life over some fking weed man.
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03-13-2021, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
The drug trade produces gangsters, jails just house and feed them at exorbitant markups to pay the administrators and officersDifference is rehab works. Jail makes ppl worse and produces gangsters. Jail also ends up costing more.
Citizens pay for that with more violent cities, a massive tax bill, and a loss of production from the horrible impact of breaking up families
03-13-2021, 10:32 AM
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When u treat a mental health issue as a criminal justice issue, this is what happens. We had good results from decriminalizing suicide attempts and making ppl go to the hospital rather than jail. I think a similar approach to drugs is needed.
03-13-2021, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Yes, it's very small government conservative to ban a substance intended for personal consumption. ****ing lolAgain your argument has fatal flaws.
PRIVATELY ran rehab facilities tend to work.
We all know once things are ran by the government the efficacy of programs goes to ****.
Got stuff to do around the house. It’s been a pleasure chipping away at your liberal delusions per usual.
PRIVATELY ran rehab facilities tend to work.
We all know once things are ran by the government the efficacy of programs goes to ****.
Got stuff to do around the house. It’s been a pleasure chipping away at your liberal delusions per usual.
But with guns, obviously the bad people will have them anyways so prohibition is pointless
03-13-2021, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
rehab only works if the user wants itDifference is rehab works. Jail makes ppl worse and produces gangsters. Jail also ends up costing more.
It would be a prison, but a different kind of prison. You've seen what prisons in Norway are like right? And it would have a goal...to help people get better rather than just punish.
It would be a prison, but a different kind of prison. You've seen what prisons in Norway are like right? And it would have a goal...to help people get better rather than just punish.
03-13-2021, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Other countries are actually doing it with good results. Norway is a good example.Again your argument has fatal flaws.
PRIVATELY ran rehab facilities tend to work.
We all know once things are ran by the government the efficacy of programs goes to ****.
Got stuff to do around the house. It’s been a pleasure chipping away at your liberal delusions per usual.
PRIVATELY ran rehab facilities tend to work.
We all know once things are ran by the government the efficacy of programs goes to ****.
Got stuff to do around the house. It’s been a pleasure chipping away at your liberal delusions per usual.
03-13-2021, 10:46 AM
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03-13-2021, 10:48 AM
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The ACLU sued the the government and won against forced drug/mental rehab.
It’s part of the reason california is overloaded with crazy homeless people who have zero ability to integrate into society.
It’s part of the reason california is overloaded with crazy homeless people who have zero ability to integrate into society.
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03-13-2021, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
Bingo, ridiculous we allow all this other clown world nonsense but a little weed is a prison sentenceCan someone explain why weed is still illegal in 2021?
Is it still the pharmaceutical industry and their lobbyists?
Is it still the pharmaceutical industry and their lobbyists?
Nothing I post is serious.
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03-13-2021, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By yeshli2nuts⏩
Yea and it should be and that's what the discussion is about. BTW my state decriminalized drugs already.It's a problem to fight against your state legislature, not against the LEO with a gun who is following the law and trying to arrest you. Until the law is fixed, don't act like a fuking animal in these situations and you will come out alive.
03-13-2021, 10:52 AM
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Every community should just have their own reservations like natives. Police and run themselves.
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03-13-2021, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted By azumi121⏩
I've asked some of my American friends why they don't have reservations for black people the way they do their natives, they got very upset lol. I sill don't understand why not.Every community should just have their own reservations like natives. Police and run themselves.
03-13-2021, 11:01 AM
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What an absolutely fuking retarded woman. All she had to do was comply and she would be alive. Why couldn’t this idiot just cooperate?
She runs around screaming like a lunatic and shoots a cop, she deserved to die. Life wasted, but now her family will get a big payday so I guess her life was good for something in the end.
She runs around screaming like a lunatic and shoots a cop, she deserved to die. Life wasted, but now her family will get a big payday so I guess her life was good for something in the end.
03-13-2021, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Seamanbeast⏩
I am sure this happened.I've asked some of my American friends why they don't have reservations for black people the way they do their natives, they got very upset lol. I sill don't understand why not.
03-13-2021, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
Maybe you can answer it, or you can just get angry at me lolI am sure this happened.
03-13-2021, 11:03 AM
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You shoot at cops you're likely to end up dead. His fat ass definitely could have handled the situation better, but in the end her fat ass shot at him so of course he's going to shoot back in self-defense. Hindsight is always 20/20, but if I were in his shoes I would've taken all her weed, given her a citation, and told her that her boyfriend's car is under watch so if they take it out on the road again it will be impounded due to having multiple associated warrants. That simple interaction could have been 20 minutes tops and both of us walk away with our lives.
03-13-2021, 11:03 AM
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03-13-2021, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Seamanbeast⏩
No one is getting angry at you little edgelord, they are just rolling their eyes at someone who thinks he is being clever when he is not.Maybe you can answer it, or you can just get angry at me lol
03-13-2021, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Dude, this is 100% her fault.I think in her mind she probably thought she did nothing wrong. The way she was screaming for help and ran off terrified seems like she might have thought he would harm her once he cuffed her for some reason.
If this kind of chit keeps happening, black people are going to be so scared of cops that they will just shoot them the moment they think they will be arrested. We need to really look at the nature of force here. He really didn't need to cuff her right then. All of this could have been avoided. And idk why he couldn't just keep her detained in a civil manner until backup arrived.
What is dumb is she was being arrested over some weed. She lost her life over some fking weed man.
If this kind of chit keeps happening, black people are going to be so scared of cops that they will just shoot them the moment they think they will be arrested. We need to really look at the nature of force here. He really didn't need to cuff her right then. All of this could have been avoided. And idk why he couldn't just keep her detained in a civil manner until backup arrived.
What is dumb is she was being arrested over some weed. She lost her life over some fking weed man.
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03-13-2021, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
Thought there was supposed to be 40 acres and a mule? Maybe Ameri****s are too stupid to even know their own history now though. So after you enslaved them for hundreds of years, now you force your stupid drug laws on them and shoot them over a baggie of marijuana? I'm the edgelord though, because I pointed out your shame and you can't take it. That's okay though, at least you did away with your natives before they had a chance to buck back up on you right?No one is getting angry at you little edgelord, they are just rolling their eyes at someone who thinks he is being clever when he is not.
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