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post 1633669613 03-13-2021, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Ed_Norton_fan
That cop is morbidly obese
She's lucky the drugs didn't get pulled into his orbit before he even checked the bag
post 1633669713 03-13-2021, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle
Your argument assumes she would voluntarily agree to rehab. My intuition things she would not. Now what? Do we force rehab? Now it’s another debate on a similar violation of rights.

You’re just obsessed with being a contrarian without realizing the implications of such ideas.
better than forcing jail

yes we should force rehab

we should force a lot of things

if we're gonna be a police state, let's do it right ffs
post 1633670023 03-13-2021, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle
Is it? What is the difference?

Do you figure that rehab, as provided by the government, will be some grand relaxation and peaceful setting?

Once to scale it will just be a prison with, less guards and more “doctors”.

Again, your dreams of whatsoundsgood in order tolookgood are misguided and impractical.
Forced rehab is retarded. Full scale decriminalization with enforcement of traditional crimes only is the only true solution. Criminalization has done nothing to prevent addiction from persisting and makes the outcomes of addiction worse
post 1633670223 03-13-2021, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle
Is it? What is the difference?

Do you figure that rehab, as provided by the government, will be some grand relaxation and peaceful setting?

Once to scale it will just be a prison with, less guards and more “doctors”.

Again, your dreams of whatsoundsgood in order tolookgood are misguided and impractical.

Edit: lol at you recommending something that is tantamount to “spinning 360 degrees and walking away”.
Difference is rehab works. Jail makes ppl worse and produces gangsters. Jail also ends up costing more.

It would be a prison, but a different kind of prison. You've seen what prisons in Norway are like right? And it would have a goal...to help people get better rather than just punish.
post 1633670273 03-13-2021, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel
I think in her mind she probably thought she did nothing wrong. The way she was screaming for help and ran off terrified seems like she might have thought he would harm her once he cuffed her for some reason.

If this kind of chit keeps happening, black people are going to be so scared of cops that they will just shoot them the moment they think they will be arrested. We need to really look at the nature of force here. He really didn't need to cuff her right then. All of this could have been avoided. And idk why he couldn't just keep her detained in a civil manner until backup arrived.

What is dumb is she was being arrested over some weed. She lost her life over some fking weed man.
She did not lose her life over weed, she lost her life over shooting at a cop.
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post 1633670283 03-13-2021, 10:30 AM
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sad situation srs...
post 1633670293 03-13-2021, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel
Difference is rehab works. Jail makes ppl worse and produces gangsters. Jail also ends up costing more.
The drug trade produces gangsters, jails just house and feed them at exorbitant markups to pay the administrators and officers

Citizens pay for that with more violent cities, a massive tax bill, and a loss of production from the horrible impact of breaking up families
post 1633670453 03-13-2021, 10:32 AM
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When u treat a mental health issue as a criminal justice issue, this is what happens. We had good results from decriminalizing suicide attempts and making ppl go to the hospital rather than jail. I think a similar approach to drugs is needed.
post 1633670573 03-13-2021, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle
Again your argument has fatal flaws.

PRIVATELY ran rehab facilities tend to work.

We all know once things are ran by the government the efficacy of programs goes to ****.

Got stuff to do around the house. It’s been a pleasure chipping away at your liberal delusions per usual.
Yes, it's very small government conservative to ban a substance intended for personal consumption. ****ing lol

But with guns, obviously the bad people will have them anyways so prohibition is pointless
post 1633671013 03-13-2021, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel
Difference is rehab works. Jail makes ppl worse and produces gangsters. Jail also ends up costing more.

It would be a prison, but a different kind of prison. You've seen what prisons in Norway are like right? And it would have a goal...to help people get better rather than just punish.
rehab only works if the user wants it
post 1633671083 03-13-2021, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle
Again your argument has fatal flaws.

PRIVATELY ran rehab facilities tend to work.

We all know once things are ran by the government the efficacy of programs goes to ****.

Got stuff to do around the house. It’s been a pleasure chipping away at your liberal delusions per usual.
Other countries are actually doing it with good results. Norway is a good example.
post 1633671363 03-13-2021, 10:46 AM
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Can someone explain why weed is still illegal in 2021?

Is it still the pharmaceutical industry and their lobbyists?
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post 1633671543 03-13-2021, 10:48 AM
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The ACLU sued the the government and won against forced drug/mental rehab.

It’s part of the reason california is overloaded with crazy homeless people who have zero ability to integrate into society.
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post 1633671603 03-13-2021, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By lockdev
Can someone explain why weed is still illegal in 2021?

Is it still the pharmaceutical industry and their lobbyists?
Bingo, ridiculous we allow all this other clown world nonsense but a little weed is a prison sentence
Nothing I post is serious.
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post 1633671693 03-13-2021, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By yeshli2nuts
It's a problem to fight against your state legislature, not against the LEO with a gun who is following the law and trying to arrest you. Until the law is fixed, don't act like a fuking animal in these situations and you will come out alive.
Yea and it should be and that's what the discussion is about. BTW my state decriminalized drugs already.
post 1633671723 03-13-2021, 10:52 AM
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Every community should just have their own reservations like natives. Police and run themselves.
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Incidents like this will increase as the media continues to pump this lunatic "cops are hunting down black people" narrative.
post 1633671803 03-13-2021, 10:53 AM
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post 1633671843 03-13-2021, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
Incidents like this will increase as the media continues to pump this lunatic "cops are hunting down black people" narrative.
well yknow...the dead black woman doesn't help...
post 1633671993 03-13-2021, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel
well yknow...the dead black woman doesn't help...
pretty much is the only conclusion of shooting at police officers.
post 1633672213 03-13-2021, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By azumi121
Every community should just have their own reservations like natives. Police and run themselves.
I've asked some of my American friends why they don't have reservations for black people the way they do their natives, they got very upset lol. I sill don't understand why not.
post 1633672243 03-13-2021, 11:01 AM
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What an absolutely fuking retarded woman. All she had to do was comply and she would be alive. Why couldn’t this idiot just cooperate?

She runs around screaming like a lunatic and shoots a cop, she deserved to die. Life wasted, but now her family will get a big payday so I guess her life was good for something in the end.
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Originally Posted By Seamanbeast
I've asked some of my American friends why they don't have reservations for black people the way they do their natives, they got very upset lol. I sill don't understand why not.
I am sure this happened.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
I am sure this happened.
Maybe you can answer it, or you can just get angry at me lol
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You shoot at cops you're likely to end up dead. His fat ass definitely could have handled the situation better, but in the end her fat ass shot at him so of course he's going to shoot back in self-defense. Hindsight is always 20/20, but if I were in his shoes I would've taken all her weed, given her a citation, and told her that her boyfriend's car is under watch so if they take it out on the road again it will be impounded due to having multiple associated warrants. That simple interaction could have been 20 minutes tops and both of us walk away with our lives.
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Originally Posted By Seamanbeast
Maybe you can answer it, or you can just get angry at me lol
No one is getting angry at you little edgelord, they are just rolling their eyes at someone who thinks he is being clever when he is not.
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Originally Posted By wincel
I think in her mind she probably thought she did nothing wrong. The way she was screaming for help and ran off terrified seems like she might have thought he would harm her once he cuffed her for some reason.

If this kind of chit keeps happening, black people are going to be so scared of cops that they will just shoot them the moment they think they will be arrested. We need to really look at the nature of force here. He really didn't need to cuff her right then. All of this could have been avoided. And idk why he couldn't just keep her detained in a civil manner until backup arrived.

What is dumb is she was being arrested over some weed. She lost her life over some fking weed man.
Dude, this is 100% her fault.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
No one is getting angry at you little edgelord, they are just rolling their eyes at someone who thinks he is being clever when he is not.
Thought there was supposed to be 40 acres and a mule? Maybe Ameri****s are too stupid to even know their own history now though. So after you enslaved them for hundreds of years, now you force your stupid drug laws on them and shoot them over a baggie of marijuana? I'm the edgelord though, because I pointed out your shame and you can't take it. That's okay though, at least you did away with your natives before they had a chance to buck back up on you right?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
Dude, this is 100% her fault.
It is, but our system escalates chit.
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