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post 1634369853 03-22-2021, 02:55 PM
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If our consciousness is the result of our genetics and enviroment (philosobrahs GIH)

Then could you say that you could potentially live for eternity?

Say, if you believe in the theory of Multiverse, which says that since the universe is infinite and will always be infinite, the probability of other worlds, other galaxies, other bodybuilding.com misc sections could exist at any point in time, somewhere in the universe?


Imagine a planet earth, exactly like this one, billions of light years awayfrom here, billions ofyears ago, everything happened exactly the same, at a quantum level all the way up to a galactic level, since the instant the galaxy was born.

And in that planet earth everything happened the same. You were born under the same exact circumstances with the same exact genetics, every single cell and atom exactly the same. Then you could say your consciousness was exactly the same? Therefore, there is a big chance that somewhere, somewhen, we already existed or we will exist.


Its hard to believe, but when you take into account theinfinitythat the universe witholds... both in space and time... then everything is possible. In fact, its a mathematical certainity.



That depends of course in what your definition of consciousness is.
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TL;DR You are consciousness/awareness and you do exist forever. You just don't remember because nothing else actually exists in reality. No memory, no mind, no brain etc. All the seemingly physical stuff is merely an appearance on the screen of consciousness. It's a phantom universe. You think you exist as a separate entity because you currently identify with a character on the screen. But that's not who you are. You are the fundamental consciousness that gives birth to all of creation.
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If there is another you* with the same exact brain structure atom by atom, in a parallel universe, then your consciousness would be simultaneously be here and there. The fact that you're only here and not anywhere else, shows that your physical brain doesn't exist else where.
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Originally Posted By A-GAME⏩
TL;DR You are consciousness/awareness and you do exist forever. You just don't remember because nothing else actually exists in reality. No memory, no mind, no brain etc. All the seemingly physical stuff is merely an appearance on the screen of consciousness. It's a phantom universe. You think you exist as a separate entity because you currently identify with a character on the screen. But that's not who you are. You are the fundamental consciousness that gives birth to all of creation.
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Originally Posted By wapacmane⏩
If there is another you* with the same exact brain structure atom by atom, in a parallel universe, then your consciousness would be simultaneously be here and there. The fact that you're only here and not anywhere else, shows that your physical brain doesn't exist else where.
Or maybe two of you are existing at the same time, you just arent aware of it.

Maybe a galaxy just like our milky way is somewhere in the universe and its just a week in the "future" (in reality its just all the atoms in that galaxy are 7 days "forward" in time and movement than ours) and thats why we get dejavus or other weird ****.

Man i could use some mushrooms right now
"The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
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Yeah I guess.

I sort of believe more than all of this is in a way a simulation of sorts.
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Maybe, but then I read this thread and raise my right hand, just to spite my alternate universe Sultan.


This is essentially determinism/free will discussion veiled by scale.

What drives the act. That's where our analysis should turn.
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Originally Posted By SultanofBling⏩
Maybe, but then I read this thread and raise my right hand, just to spite my alternate universe Sultan.


This is essentially determinism/free will discussion veiled by scale.

What drives the act. That's where our analysis should turn.
Well, it’s cool to think that you could essentially live forever
"The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
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We're destined to re-live existence the exact same way as we do now over and over and over and over again, enjoy the infinite loop boyos.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Or maybe two of you are existing at the same time, you just arent aware of it.

Maybe a galaxy just like our milky way is somewhere in the universe and its just a week in the "future" (in reality its just all the atoms in that galaxy are 7 days "forward" in time and movement than ours) and thats why we get dejavus or other weird ****.

Man i could use some mushrooms right now
nah bro, if two of you exist at the same time, and your only conscious of one, then the other is in all practical purposes, your twin.
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Originally Posted By ConTroLFreaKK⏩
We're destined to re-live existence the exact same way as we do now over and over and over and over again, enjoy the infinite loop boyos.
Thats Nietzsche's theory of Eternal recurrence. Says that the universe is a cycle like everything in life, and it will one day cease to exist only to start again, with everything happening exactly the same.

Another interesting look at it
"The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
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There is only one infinite existence. And infinite means endless, so it has no boarders or boundaries. And if something has no way of being defined it isn't something at all...it's nothing. Think of it like having two jars and filling one jar all the way to the top with water, and leaving the other jar empty, they both appear the same.

Any apparent variation apart from this ONE/No-thing (Anything appearing as more than one) is just this ONE/No-thing moving itself like a wave in the ocean. And waves are never separate from the ocean.

Now this ONE/No--thing is everywhere all at once and has nowhere to expand so it narrows its own perception like a horse with blinders (or you and I) so that it can eventually expand back into knowing again what it really is.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
There is only one infinite existence. And infinite means endless, so it has no boarders or boundaries. And if something has no way of being defined it isn't something at all...it's nothing. Think of it like having two jars and filling one jar all the way to the top with water, and leaving the other jar empty, they both appear the same.

Any apparent variation apart from this ONE/No-thing (Anything appearing as more than one) is just this ONE/No-thing moving itself like a wave in the ocean. And waves are never separate from the ocean.

Now this ONE/No--thing is everywhere all at once and has nowhere to expand so it narrows its own perception like a horse with blinders (or you and I) so that it can eventually expand back into knowing again what it really is.
But why
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But why
Love...This ONE/No-thing loves itself so much it creates "others" so that it can rejoice when these beings with narrow perception rediscover themselves again.
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Originally Posted By A-GAME⏩
TL;DR You are consciousness/awareness and you do exist forever. You just don't remember because nothing else actually exists in reality. No memory, no mind, no brain etc. All the seemingly physical stuff is merely an appearance on the screen of consciousness. It's a phantom universe. You think you exist as a separate entity because you currently identify with a character on the screen. But that's not who you are. You are the fundamental consciousness that gives birth to all of creation.
I've been thinking about this for awhile and haven't come up with a good theory as to how this could be malevolent. Until I read this:

"The Law of One is yet another attempt to take away from God's actual creativity, but dissolving each of our infinite uniqueness, stating we are but external fractions of the infinite creator consciousness, created in order to more fully experience himself. This paints him as a selfish creator who ultimately didn't give you your own individuality.

Same version of the classic demonic attack on individual uniqueness and the glory to a loving creator that substantiates. They hate you for who you really are, something they will never be, and this sort of attack on your individuality via 'Oneness', couched with a lot of flowery words about love, betrays the true intent of Ra, 6.5million collective entities, or in other words, Legion."

I think that sums it up.
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i had a pretty good thought about consciousness yesterday. dont remember what it was tbh lol. should have written it down

i've fuked with that chit enough, i stop myself when i go down that road
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
i had a pretty good thought about consciousness yesterday. dont remember what it was tbh lol. should have written it down

i've fuked with that chit enough, i stop myself when i go down that road
I usually start thinking about this **** right before i go to sleep, most of the time i forget about it but the thought of living forever on different times and locations of this universe really interested me.
"The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
i had a pretty good thought about consciousness yesterday. dont remember what it was tbh lol. should have written it down

i've fuked with that chit enough, i stop myself when i go down that road
I have a lot of good thoughts when I'm falling asleep and especially upon waking. Or when meditating lightly. In a theta brainwave state in other words. So I write them down in my notes. Not all of them make sense of course, but they make perfect sense to me when I'm in that state. I remember a story about an inventor who would come up with ideas by falling asleep with his keys in his hand. When he dozed off, then the keys would drop and he would wake up.

Lately I've been reading a lot about religion, consciousness, and extrasensory capabilities. Mostly in relation to History, but also the Elite. Supposedly the Elite here on Earth believe that consciousness is passed on through your bloodline so you can continue to exist, in a sense. I thought that was interesting.

Also I am pretty sure the things we do and the things we consume on a daily basis keep our consciousness in a lowered state. Not to speculate on conspiracy theories. But what you consume, especially stimulants, and what you do, which floods your brain with dopamine, really changes how you think, what you feel, and what you perceive from a Layman's perspective.

I don't want to delve into the spiritual side of things, which sounds demonic, and usually dabbles in ancient religious texts. I wouldn't mind studying them and reading up on them. But what I'm interested in is the capability of the mind. Sixth sense if you will. And I've almost compiled a reading list, but it's a work in progress.

Adding to this, if all of those things were evil back then, they are still evil today. If Christianity is insufficient for example, then it's because of incomplete and manipulated texts and it's up to us to find the real truth. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Way too sober for this **** lmao
It's simple....Think of everything that exists, existing as a television for example (the tv is consciousness). There is nothing outside of the tv (like there is nothing outside of the universe), it's all that exists. On the tv screen, there is a movie playing. You are falsely identifying with a character in the movie that's playing on the tv screen because you don't realize it's just a movie. A thought arises and the character on the tv screen moves his arm, so you assume you have an independent existence and free will. But in reality, the movie isn't real. The only thing that really exists is the tv. TV shows come and go, but the tv always remains.
Originally Posted By SultanofBling⏩
Maybe, but then I read this thread and raise my right hand, just to spite my alternate universe Sultan.


This is essentially determinism/free will discussion veiled by scale.

What drives the act. That's where our analysis should turn.
When are they gonna unban your main account brah?
Originally Posted By JGats⏩
I've been thinking about this for awhile and haven't come up with a good theory as to how this could be malevolent. Until I read this:

"The Law of One is yet another attempt to take away from God's actual creativity, but dissolving each of our infinite uniqueness, stating we are but external fractions of the infinite creator consciousness, created in order to more fully experience himself. This paints him as a selfish creator who ultimately didn't give you your own individuality.

Same version of the classic demonic attack on individual uniqueness and the glory to a loving creator that substantiates. They hate you for who you really are, something they will never be, and this sort of attack on your individuality via 'Oneness', couched with a lot of flowery words about love, betrays the true intent of Ra, 6.5million collective entities, or in other words, Legion."

I think that sums it up.
"God" is completely a misunderstood concept. He too is an appearance on the screen of consciousnesses, the first appearance, and he doesn't know or care about your existence. There is no "reason" for existence, no great plan or desire to achieve anything. Everything is just spontaneously happening, but not actually happening, because nothing ever happened and there was nobody for it to happen to (fukn lol). Consciousness/awareness is all that exists, and it's aware only of itself. That is all you can say and even that is ultimately wrong. The actual truth is beyond words.
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I would have to agree that consciousness (and also personality) is primarily driven by genetics.

For example, a guy who genetically is prone to higher-than-normal aromatization of Testosterone into Estrogen will generally be more moody, emotional, irritable and depressed than other guys who don't have high levels of aromatization.

His consciousness/personality is a direct reflection of the underlying chemical processes dictated by his DNA.

When he dies, the atoms in his body doesn't get destroyed. Rather, they simply return to nature. At some later point in time, those same atoms will be recombined into a new DNA sequence and thus a new person with a different consciousness is born.

...Or rather, we can also think that he is reborn with a different personality.....

The real question is what happens to his memories? Since memories are stored as electrical charges in the neurons in our brains, can portions of our memories be carried over into our new personality?

If this is so, then we don't truly die since portions of our life experiences still continue on.
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Most people that believe this trash hold onto their life as if it is it
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
No it’s the reverse. consciousness creates our genetics and environment. There is only consciousness. Nothing else is really real.
I agree. Philosophically profound post.
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Explain to me why that matters when I have no memories of my 'past life'? Sure its possible, maybe not even in this universe but in the one before; But it doesnt have an effect on me. I dont care because it doesnt matter (to me or everything else we know of)
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I don't believe there is any evidence that the universe is infinite or for multiverse, its just the wishful thinking of nerds.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
I don't believe there is any evidence that the universe is infinite or for multiverse, its just the wishful thinking of nerds.
it's metaphysics for atheists to cope with their nihilism
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
it's metaphysics for atheists to cope with their nihilism
Yeah I agree. Funny how they're obsessed with omniscient AI, artificially eternal life and such.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Because they have been masked by a veil. It's like when you know there's a word but you just can't remember. Or when you meet a person who you swear to know from some where, almost certainly, but yet you cannot pinpoint an exact location or memory. This is the veil of forgetfulness.


The thing is though your personality is defined by your past lives, and it is why you gravitate towards certain things, and have certain tendencies, yet they feel normal to you, but to other people they are who you are as in your personality, unless you're a narcissist whose completely lost their true-self.


The more spiritually advanced a person's consciousness is, more often than not the person is weird and doesn't fit in, because of aforementioned reasoning.
Nice choice of words. I can get what ur on about.

Its basically an explanation what defines ones personality outside of direct influence of others (parents, childhood friends etc.)

Yet, its like a peaceful... spiritual mindset. Opposed to believing in something like god, you believe u define urself by ur actions. in this life, in former lifes and in future lifes.

I 100% agree. I just couldnt word it as nicely as you. I lack the english skills.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Yeah dude exactly, it's who you are underneath all of those layers. Like when you say something that you're totally cool with but everybody thinks you weird, and then you realise you were right later on anyway, because psychology and science says so.

Thanks dude, yeah i can see that you're a eurobrah. Maybe my words ring true because English isn't my first language, so I subconsciously transliterate into English language?
Lmao. Same bro. I apply german grammer on english and get called an ESL for it. I do think german grammer allows for clearer communication though.

I wish you good luck bro. You sound like a good dude and have good beliefs, the same as me.

You should have kids srs. We need more people to think like u. And I think ur children would enjoy a dad as nice as you.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
One thing that I've learned from experience is that there is a veil of forgetfulness which blocks certain memories, as well as the veil that is placed upon the subconscious mind, that separates our conscious ego from our subconscious self.

The subconscious is what dictates your life through feeling and emotion, and all people are connected and controlled subconsciously, so that you meet the right people in the right situations so that you are guided along you life journey.

How you view life subconsciously dictates who you will meet and get along or 'vibe' with - so change your self if you want to change who your friends or spouses are.

Basically, just be happy and grateful, and have faith in the oneness of the creation, it is there to take care of you, and nothing will happen that isn't supposed to.

Ever go somewhere and decided to take a different turn and you see somebody who you used to know? That's not a coincidence, it is all planned in the upper planes of existence and then manifests below in the physical realm.

All your life events are planned out in advance, which is why people can predicted or 'know' the future.

We're all in a field of consciousness and once you raise your energy to the heart, connecting to the field, you can basically intuit what people are feeling and thinking - but they don't know that.

The ability to think it just one ability that a human being has, and we are letting it dominate our lives - in fact we need to drug ourselves to stop the mind! whereas most other animals and creatures function fine just being part of the all, taking direction from their instinct/intuition/soul, not worrying about being individuals or competing for who has the biggest and baddest ego.
Got any reading material or lectures for me to delve deeper?
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