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03-23-2021, 10:35 AM
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Yeah, if this was nature happening, then yeah who cares that's life son. But to instigate something like this is kind of a dikk move tbh.
But at the same time we got dudes firing machine guns into hordes of wild boar, so pick your poison. Crock or Glock.
But at the same time we got dudes firing machine guns into hordes of wild boar, so pick your poison. Crock or Glock.
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03-23-2021, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Ravishing_Rick⏩
Question, would shooting it, then throwing the carrion into the water for the croc to eat be evil? Is putting cheese in a mouse trap evil?lol that take pure evil to do something like that
03-23-2021, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
1. Well, the scientists who study this seem to believe that it does indicate a level of "emotional intelligence". The three animal groups (primates, elephants, whales) display behaviors that seem far more developed than almost all other creatures, so I think it's fair to assume that they are more developed as far as cognition goes.I get all that - but1. exhibiting learned behavior doesn't necessarily show that they are showing emotional intelligence, however if they do it adds to the point below.
2. It was not stripped of it's choice- it was also the only one that was going after the marshmallows in deeper water - the others stayed back, even retreated. Only that pig ventured out.
BUT -3. the gators belong there, the hogs don't
2. It was not stripped of it's choice- it was also the only one that was going after the marshmallows in deeper water - the others stayed back, even retreated. Only that pig ventured out.
BUT -3. the gators belong there, the hogs don't
2. Fair point, I don't really have a counterargument here. I don't know about animals having free will. The only thing I can say is that free will is seldom free from outside influences. If someone is in a position where they either starve to death or have to steal some food, is stealing really a choice? You know what I mean?
3. Just because a species is endemic to a region, doesn't mean its numbers can go unchecked. They had to re-introduce wolves to Yellowstone because of overpopulation of elk. The balance of nature is delicate, so humans should not interfere by baiting animals into predation, hunting in unsustainable ways, destroying habitat, etc.
03-23-2021, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
1. Maybe they do then.1. Well, the scientists who study this seem to believe that it does indicate a level of "emotional intelligence". The three animal groups (primates, elephants, whales) display behaviors that seem far more developed than almost all other creatures, so I think it's fair to assume that they are more developed as far as cognition goes.
2. Fair point, I don't really have a counterargument here. I don't know about animals having free will. The only thing I can say is that free will is seldom free from outside influences. If someone is in a position where they either starve to death or have to steal some food, is stealing really a choice? You know what I mean?
3. Just because a species is endemic to a region, doesn't mean its numbers can go unchecked. They had to re-introduce wolves to Yellowstone because of overpopulation of elk. The balance of nature is delicate, so humans should not interfere by baiting animals into predation, hunting in unsustainable ways, destroying habitat, etc.
2. Fair point, I don't really have a counterargument here. I don't know about animals having free will. The only thing I can say is that free will is seldom free from outside influences. If someone is in a position where they either starve to death or have to steal some food, is stealing really a choice? You know what I mean?
3. Just because a species is endemic to a region, doesn't mean its numbers can go unchecked. They had to re-introduce wolves to Yellowstone because of overpopulation of elk. The balance of nature is delicate, so humans should not interfere by baiting animals into predation, hunting in unsustainable ways, destroying habitat, etc.
2. It is still a choice even if it is a choice I think most would make in the scenario.
3. Right but the reason the elk overpopulated was because the wolves and buffalo were eradicated in the first place. I understand what you are saying but it takes a lot more than baiting some hogs into the water for gators to have an influence. In fact American alligators were endangered not too long ago.
I think the main difference for me is that this was facilitating a natural event. If they had taken an animal and thrown it in the water to watch a gator pull it under, that would be different.
03-23-2021, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
I think you're missing people's points here. There's totally nothing wrong with hunting and killing animals for food. There's also nothing wrong with alligators eating wild pigs. Someone luring the pig to an early death purely for their own entertainment however is somewhat sadistic imo and just doesn't sit well with me.Literally everything that happens is part of "nature". You and everyone else crying in this thread need to admit your entire argument is based on feelings. Baiting that hog into a gator trap is no different than shooting it. You kill it either way. You just have this pointless sense of nobility and order thinking one death is different than the other. Nature has no feelings son. Its cold cruel bitch that will kill you and anything else the first change it gets.
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03-23-2021, 11:22 AM
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People are really only upset because of the hog squealing and trying to get away for several seconds. Had the gator taken one chomp at the neck and immediately executed the hog and pulled it under, people would've been like "meh" and maybe even laughed.
03-23-2021, 11:29 AM
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Wow...this is one of those threads that really demonstrates how psychotic and mentally deranged a large number of miscers are. I can't even imagine the level of stupidity combined with mental illness needed for someone not to understand why the behavior of the humans in the video is utterly repulsive and despicable.
Lol some of you really do deserve the prison term that is your life.
Lol some of you really do deserve the prison term that is your life.
03-23-2021, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Devils⏩
in 2021, there are probably better ways of exterminating a pest than baiting it into drowning/getting eaten aliveQuestion, would shooting it, then throwing the carrion into the water for the croc to eat be evil? Is putting cheese in a mouse trap evil?
so shooting it would be the more ethical option.
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03-23-2021, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By jamiediamond⏩
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03-23-2021, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
You can judge the person's nature off of the impulse, but Vexidi is right it makes no difference whatsoever to the hog lol. Marshmallow bait, grenade launcher, it's still the same outcome in the end.I think you're missing people's points here. There's totally nothing wrong with hunting and killing animals for food. There's also nothing wrong with alligators eating wild pigs. Someone luring the pig to an early death purely for their own entertainment however is somewhat sadistic imo and just doesn't sit well with me.
03-23-2021, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By IronKrazy⏩
Imagine caring about a stupid wild hog more than children...Came in expecting one of the pigs on the boat being tempted by marshmallows. Leaving disappointed.
This is also why god flips these fukers over and kills everyone of them on there at places like this. I hope their kids get cancer. Very fukin srs.
This is also why god flips these fukers over and kills everyone of them on there at places like this. I hope their kids get cancer. Very fukin srs.
03-23-2021, 11:54 AM
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03-23-2021, 12:00 PM
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03-23-2021, 04:39 PM
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lol all these pussies, that was awesome
meanwhile you support mass shootinga, AMericans???
meanwhile you support mass shootinga, AMericans???
03-23-2021, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Gizzyhardcore⏩
A better analogy would’ve been abortions, seeing as millions do actually support that, which many see as blatant murder. No one supports mass shootings. Are they even educating children over there or are you an anomaly?lol all these pussies, that was awesome
meanwhile you support mass shootinga, AMericans???
meanwhile you support mass shootinga, AMericans???
03-23-2021, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By p100⏩
Oh stfu. Misc is just as full of edgy, fake tough guys like yourself trying to tell everyone how badass they are. Libs virtue signal about how good/moral they are, conservatives do it about how tough they are.Wow.
This thread is full of fukn soy infused, estrogen overloaded pussies.
This is nature. If you have a problem you can go teach alligators to eat tofu so they dont hurt any animals. There is nothing unnatural about what happened. A human assisted an alligator to eat. Are bumans not part of the animal kingdom? If a chimp threw the marshmellow would you mellow out?
lmao fuk that pig. Good for the allogator. Too bad there weren't 10 alligators to get all of them.
This thread is full of fukn soy infused, estrogen overloaded pussies.
This is nature. If you have a problem you can go teach alligators to eat tofu so they dont hurt any animals. There is nothing unnatural about what happened. A human assisted an alligator to eat. Are bumans not part of the animal kingdom? If a chimp threw the marshmellow would you mellow out?
lmao fuk that pig. Good for the allogator. Too bad there weren't 10 alligators to get all of them.
03-23-2021, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Tears⏩
except when push comes to shove...A better analogy would’ve been abortions, seeing as millions do actually support that, which many see as blatant murder. No one supports mass shootings. Are they even educating children over there or are you an anomaly?
Mass shooting number ??? vs banning automatic weapons
Nah but our freedoms! - sorry we can't ban automatic weappns.
lol your freedoms are the most retarded thing about your country, thats a big reason you F'd up covid so bad, freedoms vs simply doing lockdown right the first time
03-23-2021, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
This. Morals develop based on common rules we can all live by to help each other. In this case, the hog doesn't give a fuk about you, so why should you give a fuk about it? That's how morality is supposed to work. Love thy neighbour, but only thy neighbour, not the entire world.Literally everything that happens is part of "nature". You and everyone else crying in this thread need to admit your entire argument is based on feelings. Baiting that hog into a gator trap is no different than shooting it. You kill it either way. You just have this pointless sense of nobility and order thinking one death is different than the other. Nature has no feelings son. Its cold cruel bitch that will kill you and anything else the first change it gets.
Originally Posted By Km2019⏩
The difference is that one is actually virtuous and should be held in high regard by others, the other is not. Complaining that he's doing something to show that he's better than you, when that thing actually does make him better than you, is just dumb.Oh stfu. Misc is just as full of edgy, fake tough guys like yourself trying to tell everyone how badass they are. Libs virtue signal about how good/moral they are, conservatives do it about how tough they are.
03-23-2021, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Gizzyhardcore⏩
Europe is on their what, 6th lockdown?except when push comes to shove...
Mass shooting number ??? vs banning automatic weapons
Nah but our freedoms! - sorry we can't ban automatic weappns.
lol your freedoms are the most retarded thing about your country, thats a big reason you F'd up covid so bad, freedoms vs simply doing lockdown right the first time
Mass shooting number ??? vs banning automatic weapons
Nah but our freedoms! - sorry we can't ban automatic weappns.
lol your freedoms are the most retarded thing about your country, thats a big reason you F'd up covid so bad, freedoms vs simply doing lockdown right the first time
It’s like you are trying to own yourself.
03-23-2021, 05:11 PM
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03-23-2021, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Gizzyhardcore⏩
Automatic weapons are nearly impossible to get. You’re a retard.except when push comes to shove...
Mass shooting number ??? vs banning automatic weapons
Nah but our freedoms! - sorry we can't ban automatic weappns.
lol your freedoms are the most retarded thing about your country, thats a big reason you F'd up covid so bad, freedoms vs simply doing lockdown right the first time
Mass shooting number ??? vs banning automatic weapons
Nah but our freedoms! - sorry we can't ban automatic weappns.
lol your freedoms are the most retarded thing about your country, thats a big reason you F'd up covid so bad, freedoms vs simply doing lockdown right the first time
03-23-2021, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
yes about 8 centuries ago..I don't know, that was my question. Animal baiting used to be done as sport in Europe and other places - probably is still done some places, it was like fighting but with different animals. Like a bear that is chained to a stake vs a group of dogs. So I am not quite sure if using bait to attract a prey animal to a predator qualifies as that.
People are allowed to feed pet snakes live food.
People are allowed to feed pet snakes live food.
perhaps America will become civilised in another 8 centuries
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03-23-2021, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted By iwant2beswole⏩
you're arguing about animals being eaten alive by predators in a habitat? this is literally how nature works. Animals are consumed alive screaming with their entrails pulled out slowly or their faces chewed off alive.in 2021, there are probably better ways of exterminating a pest than baiting it into drowning/getting eaten alive
so shooting it would be the more ethical option.
so shooting it would be the more ethical option.
Originally Posted By iwant2beswole⏩
so you shoot the hog, then throw its body in the water? Crocs hunt live prey.in 2021, there are probably better ways of exterminating a pest than baiting it into drowning/getting eaten alive
so shooting it would be the more ethical option.
so shooting it would be the more ethical option.
03-23-2021, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
So right about the time Boris lifts the Covid lockdown restrictions, eh?yes about 8 centuries ago..
perhaps America will become civilised in another 8 centuries
perhaps America will become civilised in another 8 centuries
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03-23-2021, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted By yewotm8⏩
First of all, I already stated in the thread I don't care about the damn pig lol. The reality is that most liberals aren't good people, and most conservatives aren't tough. I've been around long enough to know people's true colors. This is the internet; people's claims about themselves and their posturing mean nothing unless they can prove it. Virtue signalling, especially online, is done by people who want to feel better about themselves by getting validation/affirmation.The difference is that one is actually virtuous and should be held in high regard by others, the other is not. Complaining that he's doing something to show that he's better than you, when that thing actually does make him better than you, is just dumb.
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