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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18481387/
Results of the first phase I/II clinical vaccination trial with direct injection of mRNA
Benjamin Weide et al. J Immunother. Feb-Mar 2008.
Never used on humans? It’s been used for cancer testing for over 10 years and began development 30 years ago.

Johnson and Johnson isn’t even mRNA
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Originally Posted By ItsWhatIDo
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18481387/



Never used on humans? It’s been used for cancer testing for over 10 years and began development 30 years ago.

Johnson and Johnson isn’t even mRNA
It's also been used in vaccine trials before - Zika, CMV, Rabies and Influenza. Here's one of the earliest in vivo usages in 1993 for influenza:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8325342/

Both Astrazeneca and J+J are conventional vaccines.

You are preaching to some very low IQ folk on here though.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
Haha bro gene therapy? Leave medicine to the doctors and nurses - this is over your head.

You’re getting the virus or the vaccine. You’re young and presumably healthy so realistically the virus is unlikely to harm you. And even still it’s less safe than the vaccine. And if you give COVID to any older family members just prior to the onset of symptoms, you’re giving everyone over 55 a 1 in 8 chance of being admitted to the hospital - a big fukin deal - and a 1 in 20 chance of being in the ICU and a 1 in a 100 chance of dying. Because you don’t believe in science and modern medicine. And those numbers are for 55 - it goes way the fuk up for elderly people.

Because you’re too stupid and shortsighted to get a proven therapy - a vaccine - which has far lower risk to
You than the pandemic virus even acknowledging your risk is petty low (young and healthy)

Everyone is getting the virus or the vaccine. The vaccine is not zero risk but it is less risk than the virus - for all age groups.

You’re not a free thinker or a philosopher, you’re an antivaxxer antiscience anti-modern medicine *******.
You're the type of person that if science came out with a proven method of living longer being drinking your own cum, you would partake in it. If you didn't that would mean you are an anti-cumdrinker and a science denier.

You're a special kind of retard that doesn't think for themselves.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Instead we now have an education system armed with broken logic & chit history. Is there anything more dangerous..?
Yes!

The lack of historical perspective and knowledge!

When my generation, that many of you ridicule, the boomers die a huge historical knowledge source will be gone.



The Spanish Flu from 1918.
They didn't even know about viruses back then.
Science couldn't see them.

The rise of fascism in Germany and Italy.
The rise of communism in Russia.
BTW: all three of those were leftists political groups.


If you compare the late 1920s \1930s many of the things being said today about certain people is what was said back then about undesirable groups of people.


Learn history or you will be doomed to repeat it.
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Got the Johnson and Johnson vaccine today
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Originally Posted By Celsus
I did watch it (I did not pay 100% attention though), but they did not really talk too much about vaccines, just about the virus itself and how it went away due to herd immunity. Neat anyway
There weren't vaccines back then.


Just 100 years ago.
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How can there be long-term data on something developed in less than a year? Strong impossible standards lol
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Originally Posted By HarryfromCali
I only know this, the vaxx is actually gene therapy and with mRNA technology that has never been used in humans before and I'm not in a demographic to be severely effected by the virus and I trust my immune system to do it's job. My only job is to stay healthy by making sure my nutrition is top notch (eating healthy, getting the right vitamins, exercising, getting fresh air and sunlight), not by injecting myself with a non-fda approved gene therapy jab with who knows what side effects. I trust vaccines that are known to be safe, get the **** out of here you dumb ****s that want to label anyone with my stance as an anti-vaxxer
mRNA has literally been studied for decades. Researches just have been focused on using it for cancer therapy. Before the sars-cov2 pandemic, the scale necessary for pharmeceutical companies to sell it wasn't there, we already had plenty of vaccines for infectious diseases.

And while it is true that you are in a demographic that isn't severely affected by the virus, your parents may be, or your friend's parents. I have two close friends whose parents needed to be hospitalized, and one co-worker whose dad was put in a ventilator. That kind of mentality is very dangerous to the community.


https://www.oligotherapeutics.org/fa...creating-them/

Isn’t the technology too new to be trusted? If mRNA vaccines really work and can be produced so quickly, then why haven’t any been used before?

Technically, mRNA vaccines are not new. They, along with other RNA therapeutics, have been in development for decades, and many mRNA vaccines were in phase 1, 2, and 3 trials before the COVID-19 vaccines were created. There simply has not been the level of urgency to produce them to combat a virus as we have seen in this pandemic. The arrival of SARS-CoV-2 highlighted the critical need for solutions, and the development of mRNA vaccines along with other oligonucleotide therapies became an urgent priority.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
Haha bro gene therapy? Leave medicine to the doctors and nurses - this is over your head.

You’re getting the virus or the vaccine. You’re young and presumably healthy so realistically the virus is unlikely to harm you. And even still it’s less safe than the vaccine. And if you give COVID to any older family members just prior to the onset of symptoms, you’re giving everyone over 55 a 1 in 8 chance of being admitted to the hospital - a big fukin deal - and a 1 in 20 chance of being in the ICU and a 1 in a 100 chance of dying. Because you don’t believe in science and modern medicine. And those numbers are for 55 - it goes way the fuk up for elderly people.

Because you’re too stupid and shortsighted to get a proven therapy - a vaccine - which has far lower risk to
You than the pandemic virus even acknowledging your risk is petty low (young and healthy)

Everyone is getting the virus or the vaccine. The vaccine is not zero risk but it is less risk than the virus - for all age groups.

You’re not a free thinker or a philosopher, you’re an antivaxxer antiscience anti-modern medicine *******.
im a nursing student and a type 1 diabetic. there goes ur narrative. dipchit.
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Originally Posted By stewartrochet
How can there be long-term data on something developed in less than a year? Strong impossible standards lol
The MMR vaccine was developed in 4 years, but the clinical trials only ran for less than a year and a half - started late 1965 and was approved early 1967. Every vaccine that has ever been recalled has been recalled within weeks of first usage, as that is how long it takes for severe adverse events to manifest.

There is nothing different about this - it was overall developed quickly because multiple aspects of the development and approval were run in parallel, there was a ready and uninterrupted stream of patients available for trials, and a blank cheque given by governments.
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9 months development for a new vaccine for an illness that many people dont even know they had, meanwhile vaccinating people so early has increased the prevalence of more variants and possibly make the illness worse.

meanwhile everyone ignores the fact that the vast majority are seriously over weight or very old or ill....sure jab that group they have nothing much to lose, but if you are not why put a rushed medication into a healthy body

i had this BS over xmas , felt a bit crap for a couple of weeks , then gone ....so vax , no thanx
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
Haha bro gene therapy? Leave medicine to the doctors and nurses - this is over your head.

You’re getting the virus or the vaccine. You’re young and presumably healthy so realistically the virus is unlikely to harm you. And even still it’s less safe than the vaccine. And if you give COVID to any older family members just prior to the onset of symptoms, you’re giving everyone over 55 a 1 in 8 chance of being admitted to the hospital - a big fukin deal - and a 1 in 20 chance of being in the ICU and a 1 in a 100 chance of dying. Because you don’t believe in science and modern medicine. And those numbers are for 55 - it goes way the fuk up for elderly people.

Because you’re too stupid and shortsighted to get a proven therapy - a vaccine - which has far lower risk to
You than the pandemic virus even acknowledging your risk is petty low (young and healthy)

Everyone is getting the virus or the vaccine. The vaccine is not zero risk but it is less risk than the virus - for all age groups.

You’re not a free thinker or a philosopher, you’re an antivaxxer antiscience anti-modern medicine *******.
I know your retarded pea sized brain will deny this fact but the 3rd leading cause of death in the US behind cancer and heart disease is MEDICAL MISTAKES.

Where there is risk everyone needs to make up their own mind.

You better be taking all of those injections that you’re telling your parents to get . Don’t want you waiting around for any inheritance you might get when they are gone within a couple of years.
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Itswhatido negged me saying the vaccine developed 10 years ago. Just lmao. No it wasn’t.
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Originally Posted By ItsWhatIDo
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18481387/



Never used on humans? It’s been used for cancer testing for over 10 years and began development 30 years ago.

Johnson and Johnson isn’t even mRNA
Lmao fk out of here
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Originally Posted By HarryfromCali
I only know this, the vaxx is actually gene therapy and with mRNA technology that has never been used in humans before and I'm not in a demographic to be severely effected by the virus and I trust my immune system to do it's job. My only job is to stay healthy by making sure my nutrition is top notch (eating healthy, getting the right vitamins, exercising, getting fresh air and sunlight), not by injecting myself with a non-fda approved gene therapy jab with who knows what side effects. I trust vaccines that are known to be safe, get the **** out of here you dumb ****s that want to label anyone with my stance as an anti-vaxxer
It’s how they roll. They’ll lump us in as anti - vaxx when in reality we are just being more cautious than they are over an unproven and untested vaxx. It’s not complicated, they’ve let Twitter bots brainwash them lulz.
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Originally Posted By Azzurrah
mRNA has literally been studied for decades. Researches just have been focused on using it for cancer therapy. Before the sars-cov2 pandemic, the scale necessary for pharmeceutical companies to sell it wasn't there, we already had plenty of vaccines for infectious diseases.

And while it is true that you are in a demographic that isn't severely affected by the virus, your parents may be, or your friend's parents. I have two close friends whose parents needed to be hospitalized, and one co-worker whose dad was put in a ventilator. That kind of mentality is very dangerous to the community.


https://www.oligotherapeutics.org/fa...creating-them/

Isn’t the technology too new to be trusted? If mRNA vaccines really work and can be produced so quickly, then why haven’t any been used before?

Technically, mRNA vaccines are not new. They, along with other RNA therapeutics, have been in development for decades, and many mRNA vaccines were in phase 1, 2, and 3 trials before the COVID-19 vaccines were created. There simply has not been the level of urgency to produce them to combat a virus as we have seen in this pandemic. The arrival of SARS-CoV-2 highlighted the critical need for solutions, and the development of mRNA vaccines along with other oligonucleotide therapies became an urgent priority.
I do agree with you that mRNA technology has been studied but has never passed FDA approval, hell this gene therapy jab is not even meant to be FDA certified until end of 2023 and everyone else that is taking it now is literally in a guinea pig experiment. If it was a miracle cure that it is being pushed and marketed out to be than people would not need to socially distance and still wear a mask. In fact, the states with the highest uptake of the vaxx have been seeing large amount of cases. You do have to understand why there is a large amount of distrust in this jab, it's because the testing for it was rushed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/healt...ory/index.html
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Front line utility worker, also had COVID last year, I am now immortal OP so you can Phuck off.
you got the shot even tho you had covid already?
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Originally Posted By LieutenantGains
Shut up OP you f*cking socialist. People like me who get vaccinated are protecting your dumb ass from getting sick. Hope you enjoy the benefit of my antibodies you leech.

Really wish you didn’t do this. This vaccine is gonnafuk people up, don’t wanna see this for you
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Originally Posted By deeAvi
i work in hospital so i had to get it
most jobs require it now. my friend works phones and got it

so you're a NEET unemployed on misc ofc you have a say to get it or not lmao. get a job you bum
I work in a hospital and it isn’t required.
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Originally Posted By stevemckenna
The inevitable argument I get from pro-vaxxers is: get it to protect others. Besides the fact that they're guilt tripping you, I find the logic to be flawed. Aren't at-risk people vaccinated already? Aren't the others I'm protecting basically other "ignorant douchebags" that also don't want to get vaccinated?
after the vaccine, you can still get it and spread it, it's just so your body can fight it off more effectively, and you don't get any of the symptoms.
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Originally Posted By Avalanche3319
I work in a hospital and it isn’t required.
People lie to make themselves feel better about falling to social pressure. Masks and vaccines are perfect examples. Literally no one makes you put on a mask besides yourself, and same with a vaccine. That's too much for them so they make up excuses to cover how weak they are and to cover their shame.

Not one single person has gotten this SHOT because it was "required."
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Originally Posted By LieutenantGains
Shut up OP you f*cking socialist. People like me who get vaccinated are protecting your dumb ass from getting sick. Hope you enjoy the benefit of my antibodies you leech.

Lmao at being proud of your vaccine passport just lmao
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OK

so what's the argument against Trump saying to get the vaccination while he and his family are now vaccinated?

Nothing?

oh ok
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Originally Posted By xbluexhawkx
OK

so what's the argument against Trump saying to get the vaccination while he and his family are now vaccinated?

Nothing?

oh ok
That he’s entitled to his opinion just like anyone else?
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Originally Posted By Avalanche3319
That he’s entitled to his opinion just like anyone else?
so the right wing GOD is even telling you retards to take the vaccine, and you're still spouting fake science and conspiracies?

interesting.

idc if you take the vaccine or not, but just LOL @ thinking this is more than it really is.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
Haha bro gene therapy? Leave medicine to the doctors and nurses - this is over your head.

You’re getting the virus or the vaccine. You’re young and presumably healthy so realistically the virus is unlikely to harm you. And even still it’s less safe than the vaccine. And if you give COVID to any older family members just prior to the onset of symptoms, you’re giving everyone over 55 a 1 in 8 chance of being admitted to the hospital - a big fukin deal - and a 1 in 20 chance of being in the ICU and a 1 in a 100 chance of dying. Because you don’t believe in science and modern medicine. And those numbers are for 55 - it goes way the fuk up for elderly people.

Because you’re too stupid and shortsighted to get a proven therapy - a vaccine - which has far lower risk to
You than the pandemic virus even acknowledging your risk is petty low (young and healthy)

Everyone is getting the virus or the vaccine. The vaccine is not zero risk but it is less risk than the virus - for all age groups.

You’re not a free thinker or a philosopher, you’re an antivaxxer antiscience anti-modern medicine *******.
Wtf are you on?
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Originally Posted By xbluexhawkx
OK

so what's the argument against Trump saying to get the vaccination while he and his family are now vaccinated?

Nothing?

oh ok
Fk him as well
Maybe they gave him a deal if he promotes it his life be spared jk bht fk him
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