How do you know it's been good if you haven't compared the numbers to anything else? I'm not saying they haven't been accurate, but without a check on the numbers, how do you know?

Being from Cali, I only look at Cali numbers from CDPH website (link I posted) since those are supposedly the "official" numbers that affect me directly.

How many antivaxxers are on the misc really, so much as anti authoritarianism regarding vaccines....(passports, shaming unvaccinated people)?

Just look at the comorbidities. If you're a healthy relatively young adult male, nobody should be giving you chit for not wanting to get a jab. No, it's not your job to take chemicals to "protect" others who put themselves at a high risk from unhealthy lifestyles: cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

Crazy how well theyve buried these reports OP, all of this chit is out there but without State Propaganda telling people they will never look for themselves. When they released the first report last year the totaldeaths from Covid was only at ~9,xxx, and this was in the fall. Biggest scam/psyop in world history. Meanwhile the media is blasting out 400,000 24/7

The globalists are laughing their asses off at us smh.

Your a terrible sheep bruh, dang.

Ive come to feel kinda sorry for you people who are eyeballs deep in the matrix, and have no idea srs. Sad

price of freedom.

fatties gonna fat regardless unless you want to put these people in "fat" camps for mandatory exercise and dieting. but it's something I dont mind the govt stepping in to do from schools, or at least collaborate with other organizations to make physical fitness a more mandatory part of the school curriculum. Mandatory cooking/nutrition classes in high school, etc.

However, alot of guidelines hasn't kept up with current research and schools still teaching those old guidelines which doesn't really help. However what is labelled as "healthy" and "junk" gets blurred. For example, "heart healthy" cereal is still loaded with sugar and is calorie dense as chit. Is a cheeseburger necessarily "unhealthy" for you? I mean it's got some fats, carbs, proteins, maybe some tomatoes and lettuce in there too. It's more about the diet overall rather than individual foods which we arbitrarily label as good or bad. And how much of it that is eaten overall.

I'd say a more focus on physical fitness from a young age is a good start.

welcome to biden's america

we were saved under Trump, the great white hope


now look lol

Yeah but some western countries have like a third or half the obesity we do. Look at Italy, I think it's sub 20%. We have an AWFUL food culture in the US. Forget the obsession with huge portions, but extremely cheap and addictive fast food, limited emphasis on PE and expensive healthy options. It's a multi-faceted issue though, because kids also spend more time in front of screens which subjects them to these advertisements. Plus suburban living where we drive everywhere.

I know that fast food/snack food companies are a massive lobby, and probably enjoy alot of benefits subsidies that health-based industries do not, allowing them to offer such low-priced food options.

Are we gonna ignore the fact that the author of the article is smoking hot?







No simp, just tired of rona

how many influenza deaths for 2019-2020 season?

This is why you are a fukin moron..It's been estimated there will be an additional 1.4 million tuberculosis deaths from the disruptions caused by lockdowns, 500k additional deaths related to HIV, 335k from malaria. So from these 3 diseases alone, that's 3.2 million lockdown deaths. COVID is at 1.9 million.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/h....co/UMSXByMKox

New study from the peer-reviewed Journal of American Heart Association finds over 63% of Covid hospitalizations were attributed to diabetes mellitus, heart failure, obesity and hypertension.

These conditions are, in most cases, preventable

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full...AHA.120.019259

Keep trying, maybe one day you’ll post something intelligent

damn nice spot,

repped

The graph I posted is the United States excess deaths, not sure why you’re bringing up diseases and other illnesses completely unrelated to the United States.

Anyways

And yes, comorbidities are a thing. They do tend to complicate illnesses that people contract. “Preventable” is nonsense because the reality is that a large amount of Americans have these underlying conditions and you cannot ignore them and say “they’re preventable,” crazy Paul.

42% of Americans are obese, which complicates Covid, try to “solve” that.

Pretty much everything about this paragraph is incorrect. There is no conclusive evidence that advertisement is linked to childhood health issues. Companies being "so big" is largely due to regulatory barriers and anti-competitive measures implemented by the State. No company has in fact "practically monopolized advertisements." And where even is this "unabated capitalism" you speak of? Surely you don't mean the US, lol. But let's pretend that's all true and a junk food company did get so big that it practically monopolized food advertisements to children (that really doesn't make any fukking sense), what does that even mean that we "should probably come down harder" on it? As in, forcefully prevent it from doing so? Coercively prevent voluntary trade because you don't like it? Or you know, you could work on spreading health education to both children and especially parents who are the ones who provide the food to the children. Children aren't watching ads, driving to the store, and buying food.

every time my health insurance premiums went up, i prayed for a disease that would rapidly wipe out the obese

odin was listening

You keep trying to implicate that excess deaths are “Covid” deaths. That is simply not the case. Posted before, but feel free to go through the laundry list of excess deaths & sickness due to lockdowns & extrapolate for the US..

Because of lockdowns
• People Suffering from Other Diseases

◦ 1.4 million additional tuberculosis deaths due to lockdown disruptions
◦ 500,000 additional deaths related to HIV
◦ Malaria deaths could double to 770,000 total per year
◦ 65 percent decrease in all cancer screenings
◦ Breast cancer screenings dropped 89 percent
◦ Colorectal screenings dropped 85 percent
◦ Projected increase in cancer deaths, including up to 16.6 percent increase in colorectal cancer deaths, 9.5 percent increase in breast cancer deaths, and 5.4 percent increase in lung cancer deaths over the next 5 years
◦ 75 percent decrease in suspected cancer referrals in the UK
◦ At least 1/3 of excess deaths in the U.S. are already not related to COVID-19
◦ Widespread disruption of access to health care in the UK, disproportionately for poor individuals
◦ Increase in cardiac arrests but decrease in EMS calls for them
◦ 38% decrease in heart disease-related treatments
◦ 33% drop in heart attack patients, 58% drop in stroke patients
◦ Significant increase in stress-related cardiomyopathy during lockdowns
◦ 15,000 additional non-COVID Alzheimer’s deaths (as of June – likely much higher now)


• Starvation and Food Insecurity
◦ 168k child hunger deaths predicted in Africa
◦ As many as 12,000 additional hunger deaths expected per day globally due to lockdown disruptions, up to 6,000 children
◦ World Food Programme sees an 82% increase in food insecurity
◦ 132 million additional people in sub-Saharan Africa are projected to be undernourished due to lockdown disruptions
◦ More than 50 million people living in America, including 17 million children, are likely to experience food insecurity by the end of the year
◦ UNICEF is having to feed UK children for the first time
◦ 2 million Filipino families are starving because of lockdowns, at levels “never seen before”
◦ UN warns that the famine and lockdown fallout in 2021 will be catastrophic


• Effects on Children
◦ Study estimates up to 2.3 million additional child deaths in the next year from lockdowns
◦ Lockdowns are fueling child labor, including in commercial sex exploitation, mining, and tobacco production
◦ Up to 104% increase in new HIV infections among children
◦ Millions of girls have been deprived of access to food, basic healthcare, and protection and thousands exposed to abuse and exploitation
◦ FGM increases in Africa, setting back previous widespread efforts to end FGM
◦ An estimated 13 million more child marriages
◦ Teen pregnancy up in many countries
◦ Low-income students are suffering in online classes, widening inequality
◦ School closures leading to a disproportionate increased health, social and economic divides between low and high-income families
◦ School closures in the US decreased reported child abuse by 27 percent
◦ Billions of days of lost education worldwide
◦ Decreased access to healthcare
◦ Anxiety and stress from stay-at-home orders
◦ Sharp rise in eating disorders among children
◦ Child abuse reports increased 34% in Ireland between March and December


• Domestic/Sexual Abuse
◦ Domestic violence reports have skyrocketed (another source here)
◦ Up to 70% decrease in reports of child abuse to CPS early in lockdown
◦ Male victim domestic abuse calls increased by 60% in the UK
◦ Domestic abuse becomes more severe during lockdowns


• Economy and Poverty
◦ 150 million people forced into extreme poverty
◦ 8 million Americans pushed into poverty – largest increase in US history
◦ Half of lower-income Americans report household job or wage loss due to lockdowns
◦ A year of lockdowns has destroyed a decade of progress in helping the world’s poor – particularly in children
◦ Shutdowns cause disproportionate number of evictions for Black and Latino tenants
◦ School closures are causing many detrimental second-order economic effects
◦ Lockdowns drive homelessness in NYC to record levels
◦ Over 110,000 US restaurants permanently closed
◦ Unemployment tripled among young Americans, 52% now live with their parents
◦ 2 million UK families have been pushed into poverty
◦ NYC bankruptcies are up 40% compared to a year ago (as of September)
◦ Half of European small and medium businesses say they will face bankruptcy in the next year
◦ New Zealand lockdowns pushed 70k children into poverty
◦ 90% of New Zealanders who lost their jobs were women
◦ Thousands of Aucklanders turn to food banks – there are now 29 registered food banks in Auckland; prior to COVID there were less than 5
◦ Up to 500,000 fewer births in the U.S. will create severe economic hardship for childcare and child-related services and products


• Mental health
◦ 1 in 5 U.S. adults developed mental disorder
◦ 1 in 4 young adults have seriously considered suicide
◦ Severe consequences from isolation of the elderly – increased mortality, worsening cognitive abilities, accelerating dementia, mental health consequences, failure to thrive, etc.
◦ Isolation of children significantly increases their risk of poor adult health – both mentally and physically
◦ Half of young adults showing signs of depression
◦ Half of students say their mental health has declined
◦ Suicidal ideation increased in areas under stay-at-home orders while it remained stable in areas that did not have stay-at-home orders
◦ Cases of depression and prevalence of depression symptoms have tripled in the U.S.
◦ As many as 10 million people, including 1.5 million children, are thought to need new or additional mental health support as a direct result of lockdowns in the UK
◦ 70% increase in referrals of patients with serious suicidal thoughts in Israel


• Suicides
◦ Suicide-related calls to crisis hotline in Canada increased 66 percent
◦ Suicides up in Bay Area
◦ Projected increase in suicides in Canada
◦ Suicides up sharply in Toronto
◦ Canadians in quarantine twice as likely to have suicidal thoughts
◦ Military suicides up 20%
◦ Suicides increasing among children in Dallas metro area
◦ Male suicides at highest level in two decades in England
◦ Suicides rising in Japan for the first time in over a decade


• Substance Abuse
◦ Overdoses and overdose deaths are at their highest point ever for a 12-month period in the U.S.
◦ Canada seeing record number of opioid deaths (Alberta, British Columbia, Winnipeg, Saskatchewan)
◦ More people are needing drugs to cope with anxiety and depression
◦ ******** overdoses increased 60% in Georgia since lockdown
◦ Every week of lockdowns increases binge drinking by 19%

https://rationalground.com/lockdowns-pros-and-cons/

why are you even talking about malaria? lol.

Remember that time I said just go through the laundry list & extrapolate for US data..?yea, clearly you have a hard time being able to do that task. Do better

no, the original poster states there are excess deaths here in the US. then you go and post an article about malaria and tb deaths around the world increasing. i don't need to extrapolate that data because malaria doesn't exist in the US and TB death is virtually insignificant due to...a vaccine.

it's true people may have bailed on doctor visits and there's increased death from cancer or heart attacks. but it's because ICUs were stuffed previously with covid cases and people with pre-existing conditions were afraid to go to the doctors while anti-maskers and protestors were going around without a care in the world.

i'm not for a complete lockdown. but people like OP saying covid is pretty much nothing is the reason we're in this mess. had we taken it srsly from the beginning, we'd be in much better shape. even now, you have people on the misc proclaiming the vaccine is a scam. lol.

Bro..malaria was One fukin point of that laundry list, now go back & look at the 50 other points

TB vaccination is hardly done in any industrialized country.

Liberals simply can't accept that death is part of life and there's risk every time you step outside. They want daddy government to coddle them and make them feel safe, telling them they'll live forever.

You have a whole list on “mental health” and suicides decreased in 2020 according to the CDC

LOL, imagine taking the time to type all that, LOL.

Shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

Remember when everyone was arguing over this?

It was basically considered insensitive to bring up this statistic?

Then magically it disappeared.

Italy has less obese people, but keep in mind "obese" doesn't mean "fat", it means "REALLY FAT". Italy and other countries have plenty of fat people too, just not obese.

>CDC Director Robert Redfield confirmed, “We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” he said during a webinar in June.

The effects of lockdown is literally killing more people than covid lmao. Thx democrats.

imagine being this retarded

"he said during a webinar in June"

you realize that was 10 months ago?

Paul Kreul 2.0

https://www.axios.com/suicide-decrea...864a24449.html

We're not falling for all this fearmongering anymore. It's time to let nature take its course, God gave us an immune system for a reason.

I work for the Feds and have been involved in many Covid discussions with the various secretaries and executive WH staff. I've also written several regulations and contributed to a law pertaining to how things across the country should be handled. From what I can gather this shamdemic is total bs. It is 100% about control.

Look at gun control. The Dems havn't been able to pass effective gun control legislation but they can easily pass legislation making it illegal to conceal and carry while wearing a mask. Then they make mask wearing mandatory effectively instituting nationwide gun control under the guise of Covid protective measures. There are countless things like this being carried out in plain sight.

When every death is labeled a covid death if the person tests positive that inflates numbers and for the record just because a person is skeptical of this one vaccine doesn't make them an anti vaxxer.