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post 1635652343 04-07-2021, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By OntheClockNE⏩
We are building a house right now and are very lucky we got in at the contracted price before lumber shot through the roof. If we were to buy today, same house is $24,000 more.
i will be providing my own labor (me), aside from drywall mudding and sanding (fuk that) so material is the only real cost...

hence I am watching very carefully.

You are lucky that price is being honored.
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post 1635652413 04-07-2021, 12:40 PM
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As a contractor, materials go up, so does my final bid, so it washes itself out.
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Wanted to rebuild my deck & do a pergola as well for the wife but to do a 22 x 20' deck and pergola...eff that man.
May be cheaper to do composite at this rate.
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post 1635652583 04-07-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Azzurri⏩
As a contractor, materials go up, so does my final bid, so it washes itself out.
When material is high it allows the small undercutting cash only ******* types a huge in because people will be pinching pennies even more.
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post 1635652643 04-07-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
When material is high it allows the small undercutting cash only ******* types a huge in because people will be pinching pennies even more.
What do you do for a living?
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post 1635652843 04-07-2021, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Sgt
What do you do for a living?
Custom cottages and complete cottage services from propane, docks, to cottage winterizing, to high end custom chit.

But its all seasonal water access stuff out of boats. Barges, helicopters, snowmobiles and hovercraft to access jobsites.

yourself?
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post 1635653103 04-07-2021, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
Custom cottages and complete cottage services from propane, docks, to cottage winterizing, to high end custom chit.

But its all seasonal water access stuff out of boats. Barges, helicopters, snowmobiles and hovercraft to access jobsites.

yourself?
I am in Sanitary Stainless steel....now don't get mr started on those prices & the astronomical lead times.

you a full time tradie then, awesome. Just got into DIY stuff and it's a blast to learn...and fail....then learn from it. haha
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post 1635653243 04-07-2021, 12:49 PM
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I noticed this recently honestly think it's that there INFLATIONREAPER coming for dat booty INB4 materials cost more so less people can afford to build but housing prices keep going up as a result and the poor pathetic cuck waiting to buy when the bubble breaks puts on a straight jacket and gets sent to suicide watch.
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post 1635653303 04-07-2021, 12:49 PM
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Crazy, but why now? Hasn't the pandemic been fukin things up for over a year? Gym equipment fukin quintupled and is still up, feelsbadman.
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post 1635653393 04-07-2021, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
When material is high it allows the small undercutting cash only ******* types a huge in because people will be pinching pennies even more.
Ehh, I'm in commercial construction, there's no cash only, it's all 500K+ contracts with my business.
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post 1635653443 04-07-2021, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By anonkunbrah⏩
Pretty soon you won't be able to do anything except sit in your room because everything is so expensive
There will be no revolution. Before the French Revolution there may had been dozens of peasant rebellions but we're talking about fewer than 20 over 900 years.



Look at 3rd world countries. I've lived in plenty. Houses somehow still sell for $100K, a decent sit down restaurant is still $15 per head, but most locals barely survive due to making under $300 a month. If they don't revolt over that. What chance do we got?
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Originally Posted By Freeman3737⏩
Inflation due to increased money printing.
Originally Posted By Realclout⏩
I noticed this recently honestly think it's that there INFLATIONREAPER coming for dat booty INB4 materials cost more so less people can afford to build but housing prices keep going up as a result and the poor pathetic cuck waiting to buy when the bubble breaks puts on a straight jacket and gets sent to suicide watch.
Idk about other materials, but lumber is the way it is right now because the supply and demand ratio is completely out of whack.
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Originally Posted By Realclout⏩
I noticed this recently honestly think it's that there INFLATIONREAPER coming for dat booty INB4 materials cost more so less people can afford to build but housing prices keep going up as a result and the poor pathetic cuck waiting to buy when the bubble breaks puts on a straight jacket and gets sent to suicide watch.
You do realize there's alternative building materials? If lumber becomes scarce then they would switch over to mason like most of Europe. Granted you still need to shape mason and cement but yeah..
post 1635653823 04-07-2021, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By anonkunbrah⏩
Pretty soon you won't be able to do anything except sit in your room because everything is so expensive
will you even have a room to have something to sit on?
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post 1635653883 04-07-2021, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By ramimotemem⏩
Idk about other materials, but lumber is the way it is right now because the supply and demand ratio is completely out of whack.
What would you say causes demand ratio to be out of whack perhaps low interest rates causing jumbo loans for over building and over utilization of available materials causing a shortage and remaining available material sky high or....?! Potential future contractor / builder / developer / tradie whip cracker and makes me nervous about wanting to go into the industry SRS.
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post 1635654013 04-07-2021, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted By anonkunbrah⏩
Pretty soon you won't be able to do anything except sit in your room because everything is so expensive
rotting is finally the only option
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It’s no joke

PVC prices have doubled, and there’s a serious shortage with the Texas freeze.

Not fun times
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Originally Posted By overtrainbrah⏩
Crazy, but why now? Hasn't the pandemic been fukin things up for over a year? Gym equipment fukin quintupled and is still up, feelsbadman.
Same thing with airline ticket prices and charging for every last add on when fuel prices went up. Fuel prices go up, one day later "Ohhhh it hits us immediately. Unfortunately we need to share the pain and pass some of it on to the customer in order to stay in business". Fuel prices plummet back to earth, years later "Yeaaa well it takes time to trickle down to the end user..."
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post 1635654173 04-07-2021, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By DoYouEvenNEM⏩
You do realize there's alternative building materials? If lumber becomes scarce then they would switch over to mason like most of Europe. Granted you still need to shape mason and cement but yeah..
I'm banking on that with concrete being locally made and sourced.

Insulated concrete forms for everything other than floor, roof and windows/doors
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post 1635654253 04-07-2021, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Azzurri⏩
Ehh, I'm in commercial construction, there's no cash only, it's all 500K+ contracts with my business.
That will weed those guys little fukkers out eh lol
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
It’s no joke

PVC prices have doubled, and there’s a serious shortage with the Texas freeze.

Not fun times
Even though it's probably not code and only happens once every 20 years I was surprised at how poverty winterized texas houses and structures were BRB no outdoor water shut off so instant busted pipes no insulation BRB exterior heat pumps freezing...etc Absolutely pissening.
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Originally Posted By Realclout⏩
Even though it's probably not code and only happens once every 20 years I was surprised at how poverty winterized texas houses and structures were BRB no outdoor water shut off so instant busted pipes no insulation BRB exterior heat pumps freezing...etc Absolutely pissening.
They do not have outside water shutoffs? I mean I get it should almost never freeze but water should always have a turn off point besides the main water line which I am sure 95% of people cannot turn off or even know where it is.
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Originally Posted By Sgt
I am in Sanitary Stainless steel....now don't get mr started on those prices & the astronomical lead times.

you a full time tradie then, awesome. Just got into DIY stuff and it's a blast to learn...and fail....then learn from it. haha
Ya, but I manage the crew, so...sort of lol.
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Originally Posted By Sgt
They do not have outside water shutoffs? I mean I get it should almost never freeze but water should always have a turn off point besides the main water line which I am sure 95% of people cannot turn off or even know where it is.
Maybe, not every single house or building but I was watching some contractors / builders / tradie whip crackers from texas talk about some of their failure points in their home building and I kid you not that was one of the reasons so much damage happened SRS one of the gentleman even brough a plumbing spout the kind with the bubble on top that doesn't have a shutoff valve but it has some regulator that stops the water 3 inches before it meets the exterior wall so it can have water in the pipe and no shut off valve and generally not bust and guy was like I bet you northern builders know what this is but most people down here have never seen one of these SRS and I was beyond shocked.
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Originally Posted By DoYouEvenNEM⏩
You do realize there's alternative building materials? If lumber becomes scarce then they would switch over to mason like most of Europe. Granted you still need to shape mason and cement but yeah..
Doubt there are enough people that know masonry to keep up with demand.
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lol @ thinking its just tradies that are effected by this.

op is low iq.
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Originally Posted By Sgt
They do not have outside water shutoffs? I mean I get it should almost never freeze but water should always have a turn off point besides the main water line which I am sure 95% of people cannot turn off or even know where it is.
For most temporary temperature drops, leaving a good drip on prevents frozen pipes.

But if the water pressure fails because of bigger grid issues, then you are chit out of luck and you should drain the system or blow it out with air, neither of which the average person is prepared to do, least of all Texans.
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
lol @ thinking its just tradies that are effected by this.

op is low iq.
everyone else will get stung by it eventually.

We just realize it first.
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Originally Posted By Realclout⏩
Maybe, not every single house or building but I was watching some contractors / builders / tradie whip crackers from texas talk about some of their failure points in their home building and I kid you not that was one of the reasons so much damage happened SRS one of the gentleman even brough a plumbing spout the kind with the bubble on top that doesn't have a shutoff valve but it has some regulator that stops the water 3 inches before it meets the exterior wall so it can have water in the pipe and no shut off valve and generally not bust and guy was like I bet you northern builders know what this is but most people down here have never seen one of these SRS and I was beyond shocked.
Called a freeze less wall hydrant. The control on the outside of the house actually shuts water off further back in the wall to keep water away from the exterior.

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