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Office Job (30-50k/year)
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what career/path should i take (srs)

i have worked retail, taught high school for 2 years, worked data entry for a language company, and have done some door knocking for elections.

i have a BA in english with minor in psychology. i am spanish fluent and french proficient.
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don't be a microbiologist srs
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do not even consider law school unless you're going to a top 10. 100% dead SRS
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Are you really 33? Are you considering going back to school?
Back off, Warchild.

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Are you really 33? Are you considering going back to school?
yes i'm 33....i got my BA in 2015...i couldnt make it as a teacher...
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Originally Posted By tcatcrawler⏩
yes i'm 33....i got my BA in 2015...i couldnt make it as a teacher...
Sure, but if you went for say the JD, that's at least 3 more years at school and you could be 36/37 when you write the bar. I'm just wondering if that's pushing it in terms of age?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Sure, but if you went for say the JD, that's at least 3 more years at school and you could be 36/37 when you write the bar. I'm just wondering if that's pushing it in terms of age?
not sure where my path lies tbh
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With a BA in English, Psych, foreign languages, what about working in an HR setting? What about management? If I were in your shoes with your experience and credentials, I would pursue maybe a leadership type of role at a manufacturing shop or something. Really anything that needs someone with notable people skills.
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels⏩
do not even consider law school unless you're going to a top 10. 100% dead SRS
Please expand...

I think it's most viable route out of ones that are listed.

MBA is out of the question, no one will hire you with an MBA and an English degree. You need to be a subject matter expert to benefit from an MBA, OP has 0 subject matter expertise.

PhD in what? English? Something else that might accept english degree as an entry requirement will have equally 0 job opportunities (outside of very competitive not that great paying academic positions).

Office Job, firefighter, personal trainer are all low paying jobs.

Maybe go psych route but honestly it's easier to make money with a law degree than it is with a psych degree.

I know there are a couple joint JD/MBA programs where you can get both in like 3 years.... which would fix the subject matter expertise problem I mentioned before. Then law is your subject matter expertise.
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
With a BA in English, Psych, foreign languages, what about working in an HR setting? What about management? If I were in your shoes with your experience and credentials, I would pursue maybe a leadership type of role at a manufacturing shop or something. Really anything that needs someone with notable people skills.
Manufacturing? Really? They are all going to hire someone with supply chain degrees, engineering degrees, etc hell i think they have degrees in manufacturing management and there are plenty of people who do them. It's again subject matter expertise OP doesn't have and they require. He'd have to start at bottom, there is 0 chance he would get hired into management.
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Originally Posted By jn677⏩
Manufacturing? Really? They are all going to hire someone with supply chain degrees, engineering degrees, etc hell i think they have degrees in manufacturing management and there are plenty of people who do them. It's again subject matter expertise OP doesn't have and they require. He'd have to start at bottom, there is 0 chance he would get hired into management.
No **** he would have to spend ~1 year in a manufacturing setting first. I worked in manufacturing and I have seen it happen myself countless times. Nobody said he would get hired into it right off the street. People are trying to offer suggestions, stop being such a uppity bitch.
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I'd go with a professional QB. They make a ton of money, get to play a game for money, and are famous.
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If you couldn’t make it as a teacher, working with clients in a law firm will not be for you. Half the time I feel like I’m explaining the same thing over and over to 5 year old children who will not listen anyways. Also, you will be on the clock all the time and work a lot of hours. I got my JD in 2015 and passed the bar in 2 states in 2015.
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Originally Posted By jn677⏩
Please expand...

I think it's most viable route out of ones that are listed.

MBA is out of the question, no one will hire you with an MBA and an English degree. You need to be a subject matter expert to benefit from an MBA, OP has 0 subject matter expertise.

PhD in what? English? Something else that might accept english degree as an entry requirement will have equally 0 job opportunities (outside of very competitive not that great paying academic positions).

Office Job, firefighter, personal trainer are all low paying jobs.

Maybe go psych route but honestly it's easier to make money with a law degree than it is with a psych degree.

I know there are a couple joint JD/MBA programs where you can get both in like 3 years.... which would fix the subject matter expertise problem I mentioned before. Then law is your subject matter expertise.
Most (all) firms that are starting new grad lawyers at strong salaries are recruiting from top schools now. And if you're not going to a top law school you better be in the top 5% if you want a six figure job coming out of school. Otherwise why else would you spend 100K+ if you can't make 100K+ within a year or two of graduating, also need to take into consideration at least 3 years of foregone salary; there has to be that ROI in order to spend 3 years of your life busting your ass in school and 1L is hell for most people. the BAR exam is also one of the toughest exams and usually the ones from higher level schools pass it at higher rates their first time. I've known a couple people that went to lower law schools and went through three years of schooling only to not pass the exams after 3 even 4 attempts. '

Also legal work is very mentally taxing and draining. Routine 60-100 hour work weeks in those six figure jobs. Quality of life is low for most of them due to extreme hours.

Firefighter salaries are anywhere from 70K-110K depending on department, location and experience. There are super long wait l lists for a reason because it is a prestigious job with amazing benefits and you're basically admired by all of society.

Good Personal trainers with a strong client base also make well over 100K but this can take years of building a client base and good reputation. most start off at local LA fitnesses or 24 hour fitnesses and then when they have people that like working with them, they move on as independent trainers, and that's where the money is made.

If I had Op's background and qualifications + age I'd probably go to a local university and get a HR certificate and try to become a Generalist at a larger company. Can make a decent salary anywhere from 55-75K with good benefits and a good life balance + no additional student debt.
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels⏩
Most (all) firms that are starting new grad lawyers at strong salaries are recruiting from top schools now. And if you're not going to a top law school you better be in the top 5% if you want a six figure job coming out of school. Otherwise why else would you spend 100K+ if you can't make 100K+ within a year or two of graduating, also need to take into consideration at least 3 years of foregone salary; there has to be that ROI in order to spend 3 years of your life busting your ass in school and 1L is hell for most people. the BAR exam is also one of the toughest exams and usually the ones from higher level schools pass it at higher rates their first time. I've known a couple people that went to lower law schools and went through three years of schooling only to not pass the exams after 3 even 4 attempts. '

Also legal work is very mentally taxing and draining. Routine 60-100 hour work weeks in those six figure jobs. Quality of life is low for most of them due to extreme hours.

Firefighter salaries are anywhere from 70K-110K depending on department, location and experience. There are super long wait l lists for a reason because it is a prestigious job with amazing benefits and you're basically admired by all of society.

Good Personal trainers with a strong client base also make well over 100K

If I had Op's background and qualifications + age I'd probably go to a local university and get a HR certificate and try to become a Generalist at a larger company. Can make a decent salary anywhere from 55-75K with good benefits and a good life balance + no additional student debt.
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I'd second those suggestions, OP. If being a teacher was tough for you, a lawyer will be ahundredtimes worse. In the beginning it will be long hours, low pay, grunt work, treated poorly, and it's generally a long and uphill slog before you hit typical "lawyer" money.


Not trying to dissuade you, but those going into the profession need a bit of realism to temper their idealisations. I know my share of disgruntled and former lawyers.
Back off, Warchild.

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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels⏩
Most (all) firms that are starting new grad lawyers at strong salaries are recruiting from top schools now. And if you're not going to a top law school you better be in the top 5% if you want a six figure job coming out of school. Otherwise why else would you spend 100K+ if you can't make 100K+ within a year or two of graduating, also need to take into consideration at least 3 years of foregone salary; there has to be that ROI in order to spend 3 years of your life busting your ass in school and 1L is hell for most people. the BAR exam is also one of the toughest exams and usually the ones from higher level schools pass it at higher rates their first time. I've known a couple people that went to lower law schools and went through three years of schooling only to not pass the exams after 3 even 4 attempts. '

Also legal work is very mentally taxing and draining. Routine 60-100 hour work weeks in those six figure jobs. Quality of life is low for most of them due to extreme hours.

Firefighter salaries are anywhere from 70K-110K depending on department, location and experience. There are super long wait l lists for a reason because it is a prestigious job with amazing benefits and you're basically admired by all of society.

Good Personal trainers with a strong client base also make well over 100K

If I had Op's background and qualifications + age I'd probably go to a local university and get a HR certificate and try to become a Generalist at a larger company. Can make a decent salary anywhere from 55-75K with good benefits and a good life balance + no additional student debt.
firefighters also get health insurance and pers (Public Employees' Retirement System) I had to start my own retirement plan and pay out the a$$ for health insurance that sucks with a high deductible

L1 really wasn’t that bad, I worked all throughout law school. Moot court was tough but I enjoyed it
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so i'm now looking at Associate Professional in Human Resources certifications...is this something i can just study on my own?
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I say go with being an office wagecuck for 40k/yr
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What about joining the FBI or becoming an officer in the military?
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Originally Posted By Briangumble⏩
What about joining the FBI or becoming an officer in the military?
not sure i'm fit enough for that. i also have anxiety.
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels⏩
Most (all) firms that are starting new grad lawyers at strong salaries are recruiting from top schools now. And if you're not going to a top law school you better be in the top 5% if you want a six figure job coming out of school. Otherwise why else would you spend 100K+ if you can't make 100K+ within a year or two of graduating, also need to take into consideration at least 3 years of foregone salary; there has to be that ROI in order to spend 3 years of your life busting your ass in school and 1L is hell for most people. the BAR exam is also one of the toughest exams and usually the ones from higher level schools pass it at higher rates their first time. I've known a couple people that went to lower law schools and went through three years of schooling only to not pass the exams after 3 even 4 attempts. '

Also legal work is very mentally taxing and draining. Routine 60-100 hour work weeks in those six figure jobs. Quality of life is low for most of them due to extreme hours.

Firefighter salaries are anywhere from 70K-110K depending on department, location and experience. There are super long wait l lists for a reason because it is a prestigious job with amazing benefits and you're basically admired by all of society.

Good Personal trainers with a strong client base also make well over 100K but this can take years of building a client base and good reputation. most start off at local LA fitnesses or 24 hour fitnesses and then when they have people that like working with them, they move on as independent trainers, and that's where the money is made.

If I had Op's background and qualifications + age I'd probably go to a local university and get a HR certificate and try to become a Generalist at a larger company. Can make a decent salary anywhere from 55-75K with good benefits and a good life balance + no additional student debt.
Yeah sorry I have just had very different experience. I understand you may have a legal background? I am guessing, I see this with accountants who go the public accounting/audit route too... they all talk about how **** accounting is but they don't realize there are so many other routes they could have went (finance, financial strategy, corporate financial management)

There are tons of routes to go with a JD outside of going the route you mentioned. Especially a joint JD/MBA, can go straight into consulting, can go into corporate world, there will be lots of post grad programs that fast track someone with that background into senior management. Also can go into business for yourself in a wide range of options.

Going to firefighting is fine for someone if they just can't figure out how to make it otherwise but it's really not the best option out there. Trying to live off 70k a year is not fun, honestly trying to live off 200k a year is hard enough but 70k is basically poverty.

Also as for student loans. I spent 150k between my wife and me for post graduate education (2 post grad degrees for me, 1 for her)... completely paid it off in 2 years, but now I'm at like 180 and will probably be 250 in 1-2 years, my wife is just over 100k with only 2 years of real work experience. Hopefully we will be at 400k joint in 2 years... without doing post graduate degrees we'd probably be on track to be jointly at like 150k at that same time... but I guess no student debt right?... lol
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Originally Posted By tcatcrawler⏩
not sure i'm fit enough for that. i also have anxiety.
Don’t get into manufacturing if you can’t manage your anxiety. I’m in supply chain and all I do is handle f ups and problems
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what have you been doing with your entire life?
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I don't see the problem with going back to school. Everyone is changing careers every 5 or so years now, I've worked in totally different industries, Mining, Investment Banking, now I'm moving to a more legal side, I do have a couple of degrees though.

Many of you MISC brahs live in the U.S version of a ****ty village, have no goals or dreams, are either an incel or married to the prom queen Stacey from High School. We are going to be wagecels until we are 70, don't get upset or jealous at someone trying to better their life. Going into debt for students is not 100% bad it can still be good, financially, and for happiness.

You clowns listen to Ramey and Vaynerchuk too much. The only successful thing these guys have done is being YouTubed gurus, that's their business, their other businesses are basically failures.
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Do what you will enjoy doing.
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Originally Posted By Ellmser⏩
Age: 33

what have you been doing with your entire life?
I’m older and still not sure what I want to do rest of my life
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Full time NEET, rotter is the only way to go.
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Originally Posted By tcatcrawler⏩
i have worked retail, taught high school for 2 years, worked data entry for a language company, and have done some door knocking for elections.

i have a BA in english with minor in psychology. i am spanish fluent and french proficient.
If you're smart enough, I'd go to med school.
Trust me, I am a pharmacist.
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PhD has always been a shining mirage on my horizon. I feel like that's a relatively safe way to ensure a higher probability of success (in it's many forms, certainly not just money). Plus, knowing a discipline to such an advanced degree just seems... interesting! Exciting. Of course, it sorta depends on what you pick.
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