Watched some documentaries here and there and it legit made me sad.

Legit people who served and saw some nasty **** only to be discharged with no skills for the economy and a host of PTSD leading to substance abuse.

IMHO, wouldn't it make sense to have some decent programs to have them set for life - as expensive as it sounds?

What a bad deal - you go fight and you might die then you get PTSD, your wife calls quits (probably did while you are gone) and takes the kid.

You think America cares about their vets huh?

Because the VA system is an abomination and has abandoned then.



But yeah lets let the federal government run healthcare for everyone!

I am not sure the individual reasons for becoming homeless, but I strongly support supporting veterans before non-US citizens and other pet projects.

Look up how much spending goes towards the VA. All the homeless veterans are a myth. they actually collect a ton of money in benefits and "disability"

It's possible because we live in a free country. They are usually homeless for the similar reasons as other homeless people. Severe mental illness/drug problems, and thats the life they want. Not because they aren't supported financially.

if you have a mental illness though, you can't just stop being mentally ill lmao


and a lot of mental illness in men who have seen war are stemming from PTSD which can lead to depression etc

there have been many studies on mental health before and after serving and there is a positive correlation compared to base male US population (who would have thought!)

Any time someone advocates government run healthcare as a solution, and a great thing...I point them to the VA.

just like any other bum: they chose to reject society and get drunk/high all day.

Yeah it's still different with vets though. I'm sure many were totally fine before being tossed into a world of extreme violence in their teens and early 20s with minimal support structures.

Heard it time and time again, especially from SOF guys who have a high number of deployments and TBI's. It affects your brain seriously.

its not anyones fault they become drug addicts

What kind of discharge do the majority of those that end up homeless have?

Also, mental illness.

There's assistance available but they do not receive it

Just because a homeless man claims he is a veteran does not mean it is such. Especially if there's a financial incentive to pretend to be a veteran to entice people to give money to them.


The financial situation of most veterans is opposite. Look at TimK on YouTube: the guy retired in his 20s to a $3,000/month PTSD disability and they won't cancel it despite him 1. international travel 2. working while collecting it (he was a construction foreman in USA at one point apparently) 3. doing home renovations 4. etc

A lot have mental health issues. And instead of dealing with and funding the root cause of a lot of issues we have governments would rather virtue signal and throw endless supplies of money at programs that don’t fix a damn thing.

Starts early on...

-doing bad in school

-no skills/education

-joins Military because the recruiter fed him him promises (mostly lies)

- leaves with no skills/education but more mentally fkd now

-begs on crosswalk now but makes sure the car board states ‘veteran’


Sad

Number of people I've served with that have killed themselves is in double digits. I don't know what it is about the military but people tend to kill themselves at twice the rate regardless of branch or job.

I think the simple detachment from your family for 6mos to 2 yrs at a time causes most of it.

Probably hard to blame that entirely on the military. There's easily other factors at play like:

1. Male dominated environment. Men just off themselves more than women do.
2. They don't prepare you for a life after the military
3. Only dumbasses and retards entered in the first place. Somebody who has a 3.5 to 4.0 GPA at age 18 probably isn't signing up to be infantry.

research the certain tribe that was pushing oxycontin onto veterans and the elderly

It's confusing to me for sure.

The VA, from what I've noticed will help you if you go through the right channels. They have a ton of resources. Not all veterans see war and do not receive the same benefits as those without combat status, like health insurance coverage. And if dishonorably discharged, I think you're SOL completely.

can be several factors:
-they made bad decisions that resulted in them being homeless
-made bad decisions in the military
-they had mental health issues before they joined
-they acquired a mental illness while in the military
-no coping mechanisms to deal with stress; resorted to alcohol and drugs
-difficulty transitioning from military life to civilian life. they picked a career in the military that doesn't translate to anything in the civilian world
-reality check. life in the civilian world is harder than life in the military. you are on your own in the real world, whereas in the military, you could be babied for years and told where to go and what to do.
-are no longer a part of the tribe. it's hard to describe to people who havent been in the military. when you are in, you are with people who are going through the same **** as you, so doesnt matter where you are from, you have that commonality. when you are removed from that, you are alone. you cant seem to bond or relate with non-military people because you have nothing in common with them or they dont understand what you went through

I think aside from the PTSD,

alot of them don't really have a back up plan or have any clue what to do once they've retired. when they return to gen pop suddenly after years of service i think it's a shock to them.

they've built a sense of camaraderie and kinship with other military bros, had a sense of purpose and direction, really were told what to do and just followed orders

In the real world, you're not really following orders from anybody, you're living your own life. Have no idea wtf you want to do or should do so no have sense of direction or purpose. You probably miss the friendship you've developed over the years and now you feel all alone because all your interactions with people are empty. Probably find it hard to relate to anybody who isn't a military bro.

i remember i used to play a game back in the day and was in a clan. one of the guys was a legit marine bro in his 30s who was disabled/on disability. the stories he would tell would be so fuked up lol. said his wife cheated/left him while deployed and took his kid. when he came back he said he really had no idea what he wanted to do with his life. He ended up LDARing on video games while collecting disability money. Told us he pretty much gave up on real life and that a bunch of people in a clan on a video game is the closest thing to a friendship and reliving his glory marine days that he has. Scary stuff. Was also a raging alcoholic too. He tried to plug the void of marine life with alcohol and social interactions over video games. Not sure what happened to him tho, one day he just disappeared unexpectedly, I think he might have offed himself srs because there was no way he would just quit like that.