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post 1637665783 05-03-2021, 01:08 PM
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Were 300 Spartans a greek fairy tale?

phucking LOL if you believe 300 people can beat 1 million persians
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there were about 7,000 additional greeks with them
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae
Leonidas, aware that his force was being outflanked, dismissed the bulk of the Greek army and remained to guard their retreat with 300 Spartans and 700 Thespians. It has been reported that others also remained, including up to 900 helots and 400 Thebans. The remaining soldiers fought to the death. Most of the Thebans reportedly surrendered.
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It was somewhere between 4000-7000 Greeks and closer to 250,000 Persians. All of the 300 were ultimately killed, probably around 2000 total Greeks vs probably 20,000 Persians that were killed. The Persians won the battle, but lost the war, and most of them died of sickness or starvation on the return trip home.


I mean, read a fukking history book.
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They had 10,000 Spartans and 30,000 free Greeks.

Good odds for any Greek.

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They were in phalanx formation in a narrow corridor. WTF are you suppose to do against this?

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we fuk the muslmis then
we ll fuk the muslims now


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Originally Posted By Drew23
It was somewhere between 4000-7000 Greeks and closer to 250,000 Persians. All of the 300 were ultimately killed, probably around 2000 total Greeks vs probably 20,000 Persians that were killed. The Persians won the battle, but lost the war, and most of them died of sickness or starvation on the return trip home.


I mean, read a fukking history book.
that's some historian estimates pulling numbers out of their ass, u can't trust ancient historians either because they tend to exaggerate, unless you have time machine there's no way to know, persians could be the one who were outnumbered back then, we will never know
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Originally Posted By CoolKnees
They were in phalanx formation in a narrow corridor. WTF are you suppose to do against this?

Hey Dumb Phuck. Phalanx was invented by King Philip II who died in 336 BC. Battle of Thermopylae was 104 years before that.


That's like saying U.S. army invaded Iraq with Bolt Action Springfields.
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Originally Posted By DickHancock
phucking LOL if you believe 300 people can beat 1 million persians
You are such an ignorant moron you actually think the 300 won the battle. They didn't. They all died. That's the point of why it's a legendary event. They all knew they were doomed but did not try to escape. Thus the famous line by Leonidas telling his soldiers they would dine in Hades (the underworld, or hell) tonight.
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Originally Posted By TooMuchofaMicer
we fuk the muslmis then
we ll fuk the muslims now


#EuropeisnotOverYet
They weren't Muslims. They were fire worshippers



Well I guess some things never change over time
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There was about 35 million Persians and 100k Spartans
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300 didn't beat a million, not even in the movie dumbass
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Originally Posted By DoYouEvenNEM
Hey Dumb Phuck. Phalanx was invented by King Philip II who died in 336 BC. Battle of Thermopylae was 104 years before that.


That's like saying U.S. army invaded Iraq with Bolt Action Springfields.
You mean the Macedonian Phalanx? The basic phalanx was around before his 'version' of the phalanx without much longer sarissa, among other differences.
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Originally Posted By Drew23
It was somewhere between 4000-7000 Greeks and closer to 250,000 Persians. All of the 300 were ultimately killed, probably around 2000 total Greeks vs probably 20,000 Persians that were killed. The Persians won the battle, but lost the war, and most of them died of sickness or starvation on the return trip home.


I mean, read a fukking history book.
If it doesnโ€™t come from blue check marked Twitter accounts or CNN I donโ€™t believe in it bro. Otherwise itโ€™s just another fable from the white men..
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Next thing you'll tell me is that they didn't fight with just capes and leather thongs, you fkin crazy person
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Originally Posted By Ayz33
You mean the Macedonian Phalanx? The basic phalanx was around before his 'version' of the phalanx without much longer sarissa, among other differences.
But then that's nitpicking. Previous "Phalanx" just meant a spear wall and that's just an age old human tactic much like shield wall was.
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The 300 Spartans and company did have the tactical advantage of fighting in the shade, and with temperatures at "The Hot Gates" sweltering into the low 3 figures (F), this strategic edge should not be understated, especially after the Persian Army had drank the nearby river dry and its soldiers were suffering from dehydration before their initial charge.
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Originally Posted By LobsterRageFist
The 300 Spartans and company did have the tactical advantage of fighting in the shade, and with temperatures at "The Hot Gates" sweltering into the low 3 figures (F), this strategic edge should not be understated, especially after the Persian Army had drank the nearby river dry and its soldiers were suffering from dehydration before their initial charge.
Sounds a bit cope to me. Greece might be hotter than England but it isn't Saudi Arabia or Central America.
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Originally Posted By Drew23
It was somewhere between 4000-7000 Greeks and closer to 250,000 Persians. All of the 300 were ultimately killed, probably around 2000 total Greeks vs probably 20,000 Persians that were killed. The Persians won the battle, but lost the war, and most of them died of sickness or starvation on the return trip home.


I mean, read a fukking history book.
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The weirdest phuckin thing about that movie is when the hunchback guy is in the Persian camp and they pan over this dude with a literal goat head playing a flute and there's no explanation, we never go back to it. Like wtf is this flute dude with a literal goat head?

Everything else is at least somewhat realistic, like the magic bombs are just gunpowder, people fighting with weapons. The goat head dude just always make me lol.
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis
The weirdest phuckin thing about that movie is when the hunchback guy is in the Persian camp and they pan over this dude with a literal goat head playing a flute and there's no explanation, we never go back to it. Like wtf is this flute dude with the a literal goat head?

Everything else is at least somewhat realistic, like the magic bombs are just gunpowder, people fighting with weapons. The goat head dude just always make me lol.
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis
The weirdest phuckin thing about that movie is when the hunchback guy is in the Persian camp and they pan over this dude with a literal goat head playing a flute and there's no explanation, we never go back to it. Like wtf is this flute dude with the a literal goat head?

Everything else is at least somewhat realistic, like the magic bombs are just gunpowder, people fighting with weapons. The goat head dude just always make me lol.
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis
The weirdest phuckin thing about that movie is when the hunchback guy is in the Persian camp and they pan over this dude with a literal goat head playing a flute and there's no explanation, we never go back to it. Like wtf is this flute dude with the a literal goat head?

Everything else is at least somewhat realistic, like the magic bombs are just gunpowder, people fighting with weapons. The goat head dude just always make me lol.
300 film had some fantasy elements to it, like the goat head guy and the axe arm executioner, the giant with the huge sword, one of the Immortals gets his mask knocked off revealing a demonic looking face, Xerxes himself was a giant, and some of the whores at the Persian party/orgy were deformed. I don't think it was all meant to be taken literally.
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Is there any actual proof? or could we just be reading propaganda on the numbers and ect...
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis
The weirdest phuckin thing about that movie is when the hunchback guy is in the Persian camp and they pan over this dude with a literal goat head playing a flute and there's no explanation, we never go back to it. Like wtf is this flute dude with the a literal goat head?

Everything else is at least somewhat realistic, like the magic bombs are just gunpowder, people fighting with weapons. The goat head dude just always make me lol.
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