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post 1638551153 05-14-2021, 11:09 AM
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What can someone who has taken the vaccine do to potentially minimize Vaccine Enhanced Disease (VED)

A: I don't know. I would personally keep doing everything I do already for the most part.
- Most people are deficient in vitamin D. Get yours checked. If you don't, consider supplementation. Spend some time outdoors in the sun.
- Same with zinc and magnesium. Most people are deficient. Consider supplementation.
- Regular exercise, have a balanced and clean diet.
- I personally try to water fast now and again (which I did long before covid was a thing). A 4-day fast can completely reset your immune system. You drink water, your body breaks down old cells which will be used for energy throughout the fast. When you end the fast, your body rebuilds, back stronger with fresh replacements. Notably, t-cells (which are instrumental in your overall health or defense against any virus).

If I had taken the vaccine and was having second thoughts, and not necessarily buying into weird conspiracies about it being a plan to depopulate or anything, but realizing the pharm companies are trash and the history of attempts to make coronavirus vaccines in the past, I would take extra steps in my life to really get as healthy as I could.

Best case, the vaccines are safe, you spend some time getting overall healthier, nothing lost and you're healthier and feel better.
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post 1638551213 05-14-2021, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By JUSA
good post, thanks, I figured if anyone would take up the mantle, it'd been you.

The article linked actually does go into more detail with those points you were less knowledgeable of, if you care to bother. On #14, Rand Paul recently grilled Fauci on this one, the media didn't widely report on it but I think there could be a chance this story might come back at some point. It's actually quite big and awful (cliff notes: Fauci was funding research in Wuhan doing research on creating novel viruses in labs to study them; it was suspended previously because of how dangerous and stupid it was, but Fauci used backdoor channels to fund the Wuhan lab anyway).
I'll definitely look more into that, thanks.

Just as an aside, and I know this comment will probably be a head-scratcher to others who i've already interacted with here, but I should probably mention that I do - in fact - think the vaccine ispartof a larger conspiracy/agenda.

However, I don't think the vaccine being 'part' of that agenda renders it useless or dangerous in and of itself: I consider it a dangling carrot for the greedy, opportunistic politicians and companies to squeeze as much sensationalism out of COVID as they can to make money. Make people fear the virus, then sell a 'cure'. They create (or inflate) a problem, they sell the solution.

I mean, what better way to get people's money and trust than the threat of death!?

I don't trust the COVID numbers either, they could be higher/lower than what is reported... we have no way of knowing at all. We also can't test every human on the planet to see if some people literally have zero negative internal effects from it. Same thing with the vaccines, too.

So my best guess: Both COVID and the vaccine are generally not a massive risk for healthy people. At this point, I'm still saying I think the vaccine is a lesser risk, with some upsides and some downsides of course.

What I believe is happening is that government and pharma are using fear to funnel money into their pockets, and the vaccine is a tool for that. I don't think it's a means of population control, poisoning people, etc... I think it's just another novel vaccine. Some people are having a bad reaction, some have none.

That being said, kind of like i was saying before, just because the vaccine is being produced in a time of mistrust on the government or pharma companies doesn't necessarily mean the vaccine itself is a bad thing... it's kind of an unfortunate result of widespread fear and lost trust in companies who have historically shown terrifying lacks of ethical integrity. They cry wolf... they should expect people not to trust their word right away.
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post 1638551813 05-14-2021, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By M0nsterB0y
Pretty much same for me lol, I've participated in a lot of heated discussions before but it's the first time I've been negged this much just by posting a differing opinion, my usercp was full in like 2 days and it's all coming from this thread. inb4 I'm crying about the negs lol nah I dont care about the negs itself, but it's proof to me that people ITT are very emotional, almost to the point like being against covid vaccine is their religion and you shouldnt criticize it at all cost. I've seen some discussions on religion before to know that it's time to gtfo when people are too emotional.
TBH i got a lot of random 'you're an incel *******' etc negs from this thread too and, at first, I was pretty butt-hurt about it.

I don't spend much time in the misc so my reaction was kind of a result of that...

After lingering for a while I kind of realized that the misc is basically a bro-chat... it's like if you got drunk with your friends on the weekend, you give eachother shyt and it's just random banter; nobody is literally trying to come after you.

IMO you kind of have to get through the jagged edges of people comments to the meat of what they're saying in order to have a conversation at all, because they're wrapping their opinion in a bunch of insults all the time. I wasn't used to that, and I took it too personally.

Now when people do that crap, I just kind of ignore it, or I play along with it like I would a bunch of my buddies on a drinking night. You give eachother shyt, then you take a shot and get over it.


That being said, some people here are just stupid and there's no way to get around it... but there's also many people who are just being funny/cheeky with their forum speak. I'm a much more literal person when I talk politics so again I kind of got pissed at first because I don't come here much.


Of course, I think 95% of the things being said in this particular thread are just silly (magnet arms, vaccines being poison, celebs faking the shots, etc)... but at this point I can only laugh it off and skim to the parts that actually might have some reasonable backing for them.

Either way, it's either a sad display of how gullible people (which i just choose to ignore now) OR i might find a random case where I see something worth commenting on.
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post 1638551983 05-14-2021, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW
Just as an aside, and I know this comment will probably be a head-scratcher to others who i've already interacted with here, but I should probably mention that I do - in fact - think the vaccine ispartof a larger conspiracy/agenda.
The way I look at it: All of those in positions of power are pretty evil people. I don't necessarily buy this was a mastermind plot they've been planning out, but I see it more likely these disgusting people will always take advantage of situations to their own ends, without our best interests at heart.

This all is very likely an unhappy accident, one probably born of stupidity and incompetence, that once they saw it unfold, they manipulated events to their most profitable ends.

Like 9/11, I don't buy we planned it or bombs were planted to bring down the twin towers - but I absolutely do believe the Bush administration (and most politicians in both parties who went along with it) saw a golden opportunity to enrich themselves, lock down the population with anti-liberty BS, get huge contracts for their friends in the MIC and remove a pesky dictator or two that were making too much noise about abandoning the petro-dollar.

No conspiracy needed when human greed is on the table.
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Originally Posted By M0nsterB0y
Pretty much same for me lol, I've participated in a lot of heated discussions before but it's the first time I've been negged this much just by posting a differing opinion, my usercp was full in like 2 days and it's all coming from this thread. inb4 I'm crying about the negs lol nah I dont care about the negs itself, but it's proof to me that people ITT are very emotional, almost to the point like being against covid vaccine is their religion and you shouldnt criticize it at all cost. I've seen some discussions on religion before to know that it's time to gtfo when people are too emotional.

I only really stayed for a bit because of this comment:

And I posted my views and discussed what I know, if people here dont buy it, then they dont.

I dont really care, get the vaccine or not, all of this is just so lulzy for me lmao. Specially those who would rather face the dangers of living in the wild than take a vaccine lmaoooo
So you shift your stance from first coming in here mocking us & accusing all the evidence provided ITT as "broscience" to now "you don't care cause everything is lulzy".

nice cop-out, typical behavior of a beta LVM too cowardly to make a firm stance on a serious matter.

Can't even address any of 'reasons not to get the vax' in JUSA's posts. You are a pathetic spineless creature, lulz.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
The way I look at it: All of those in positions of power are pretty evil people. I don't necessarily buy this was a mastermind plot they've been planning out, but I see it more likely these disgusting people will always take advantage of situations to their own ends, without our best interests at heart.

This all is very likely an unhappy accident, one probably born of stupidity and incompetence, that once they saw it unfold, they manipulated events to their most profitable ends.

Like 9/11, I don't buy we planned it or bombs were planted to bring down the twin towers - but I absolutely do believe the Bush administration (and most politicians in both parties who went along with it) saw a golden opportunity to enrich themselves, lock down the population with anti-liberty BS, get huge contracts for their friends in the MIC and remove a pesky dictator or two that were making too much noise about abandoning the petro-dollar.

No conspiracy needed when human greed is on the table.
Oh 100% agree.

If the government saw an asteroid headed to earth, they'd slap a logo on it, sell you umbrellas, then take taxpayers dollars to have a rich tech company build a contraption to divert is X-degrees so it misses the earth.... but of course, they'd buy stock in umbrella manufacturing and the tech companies before they even mentioned the existence of it at all.

It's no coincidence Amazon and others have made a KILLING while others have lost their small businesses... it's vile and unforgivable.
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post 1638553113 05-14-2021, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By smegmasniffer
So you shift your stance from first coming in here mocking us & accusing all the evidence provided ITT as "broscience" to now "you don't care cause everything is lulzy".

nice cop-out, typical behavior of a beta LVM too cowardly to make a firm stance on a serious matter.

Can't even address any of 'reasons not to get the vax' in JUSA's posts. You are a pathetic spineless creature, lulz.
My translation: "M0nsterB0y, this is a departure from your previous disposition ITT. It appears you are ignoring many of my previous criticisms as well, and I find that hinders your credibility on the matter. Furthermore, I noticed you did not address any of JUSA's itemized points; why is that? Based on our interactions, I believe you're avoiding certain talking points because you do not possess adequate counterarguments to refute them. ******* lulz incel libtard no homo."



That's how I read in here to avoid getting annoyed =o)
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post 1638555693 05-14-2021, 12:06 PM
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I do find this hilarious:

OHIO LOTTERY TO GIVE 5 PEOPLE $1 MILLION EACH TO ENCOURAGE VACCINATION

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/12/u...s-vaccine.html
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post 1638559573 05-14-2021, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW
I do find this hilarious:

OHIO LOTTERY TO GIVE 5 PEOPLE $1 MILLION EACH TO ENCOURAGE VACCINATION

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/12/u...s-vaccine.html
Is this the thread of DeBlassio shoving fries and burgers in his mouth trying to get people to vaxx up? The video is utterly nauseating.

Virus so deadly... have to beg people to get vaccinated?

I'll bite, though, maybe M0nster wants to educate me, clearly it's not enough to get vaccinated. *Everyone* must be vaccinated now for it to work. Why else push it so hard?

Why is it so important?

Do people who've had covid need it too? Why or why not?
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state of Texas is based af and at least willing to address the concerns people are having about forced inoculations of this toxic concoction!


https://www.bitchute.com/channel/s97s1Vw7Yhfo/
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Originally Posted By AdamWW
I do find this hilarious:

OHIO LOTTERY TO GIVE 5 PEOPLE $1 MILLION EACH TO ENCOURAGE VACCINATION

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/12/u...s-vaccine.html
This is true corruption
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Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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Originally Posted By Kraken
This is true corruption
Reminds me of:



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Offering cheeseburgers and krispy kreme donuts to get a vaccine for a disease that kills obese people in higher proportion

literally cannot make that chit up lmao
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One of the few U.S presidents who was not a freemason



Jefferson was obviously onto something. These devils were playing the same tricks on American people trying to get them to give up their freedoms in the name of safety.

And here is what the British-JewishPilgrim Societyhad to say about Jefferson.
Directly quoted from the investigative report on the institution conducted by Rep. B. Carroll Reece, (TN 1st). (Dec. 16, 1954). H. RES. 217.



What is the Pilgrim Society?

Directly from the H. RES. 217 REPORT:
A Foundation engaged in un-American and subversive activities for political purposes, propaganda, or attempts to influence legislation (e.g. Carnegie, Rockefeller, Ford Foundations), 83rd Congress, 1st

The power of the individual large foundation is enormous.


Such a concentration of power is highly undesireable



A system antithetical to American principles



Research in the social sciences is almost wholly in the control of professional employees of the large foundation and their obedient satellites




How is Pilgrims society relevant to this thread?

They control organizations like RAND which controls information/censorship via social media platforms like twitter, ********, and instagram

They dictate what is considered science/facts.

Again directly from the House of Rep report from 1953
Foundation power teams promote scientism or fake science


Favor political opinions to the left
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Directly supported Communism, subversion, undermining organizing principles, attaches on our social and governmental system, promoted socialism and collectivist ideas


In Sep. 1917, Pilgrim Society leader Elihu Root was the founding chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), first called “The Inquiry.” Root joined the Pilgrims Society in 1906. Andrew Carnegie joined the Pilgrims Society in 1908.
Nicholas Murray Butler (1925-1945) was also president of the American Pilgrims Society (1928-1946).

Concentration of power, undermine precious institutions, promotes radical change to our government and society



The Rand Corporation: Mentions Battelle Memorial Institute that participated in the theft of Leader Technologies’ social networking invention.

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Here is the complete investigative report done by Rep. B. Carroll Reece, (TN 1st). (Dec. 16, 1954). H. RES. 217 REPORT: Special Committee


https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/libra...54.pdf#page=25
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Originally Posted By AdamWW
I'll definitely look more into that, thanks.

Just as an aside, and I know this comment will probably be a head-scratcher to others who i've already interacted with here, but I should probably mention that I do - in fact - think the vaccine ispartof a larger conspiracy/agenda.

However, I don't think the vaccine being 'part' of that agenda renders it useless or dangerous in and of itself: I consider it a dangling carrot for the greedy, opportunistic politicians and companies to squeeze as much sensationalism out of COVID as they can to make money. Make people fear the virus, then sell a 'cure'. They create (or inflate) a problem, they sell the solution.

I mean, what better way to get people's money and trust than the threat of death!?

I don't trust the COVID numbers either, they could be higher/lower than what is reported... we have no way of knowing at all. We also can't test every human on the planet to see if some people literally have zero negative internal effects from it. Same thing with the vaccines, too.

So my best guess: Both COVID and the vaccine are generally not a massive risk for healthy people. At this point, I'm still saying I think the vaccine is a lesser risk, with some upsides and some downsides of course.

What I believe is happening is that government and pharma are using fear to funnel money into their pockets, and the vaccine is a tool for that. I don't think it's a means of population control, poisoning people, etc... I think it's just another novel vaccine. Some people are having a bad reaction, some have none.

That being said, kind of like i was saying before, just because the vaccine is being produced in a time of mistrust on the government or pharma companies doesn't necessarily mean the vaccine itself is a bad thing... it's kind of an unfortunate result of widespread fear and lost trust in companies who have historically shown terrifying lacks of ethical integrity. They cry wolf... they should expect people not to trust their word right away.
“When one does the math, the Pfizer clinical trial numbers showed: “The risk reduction in absolute terms [was] only 0.7%, from an already very low risk of 0.74% [in the placebo group] to a minimal risk of 0.04% [in the vaccine group].” (Dividing 0.7 — the difference between the two groups — by 0.74 is the mathematical calculation that produced the touted “95% effective” number)."

https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com...oes-that-mean/

I’ll repeat..ubiquitous viruses are fought and defeated primarily by the T-Cell lymphocytes within our immune systems, not from natural or artificially implanted antibodies.
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Originally Posted By sooby
Offering cheeseburgers and krispy kreme donuts to get a vaccine for a disease that kills obese people in higher proportion

literally cannot make that chit up lmao
Shut up. Eat your donuts, burgers and fries, drink that free beer that whoeverthefuk was also giving away, do that... AND TRUST THE SCIENCE.
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Y'all should stock up on ivermectin
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Shut up. Eat your donuts, burgers and fries, drink that free beer that whoeverthefuk was also giving away, do that... AND TRUST THE SCIENCE.
All this free food. I guess they are “truly” giving the lab rats the cheese at the end of the experiment.
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Originally Posted By Paul
“When one does the math, the Pfizer clinical trial numbers showed: “The risk reduction in absolute terms [was] only 0.7%, from an already very low risk of 0.74% [in the placebo group] to a minimal risk of 0.04% [in the vaccine group].” (Dividing 0.7 — the difference between the two groups — by 0.74 is the mathematical calculation that produced the touted “95% effective” number)."

https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com...oes-that-mean/

I’ll repeat..ubiquitous viruses are fought and defeated primarily by the T-Cell lymphocytes within our immune systems, not from natural or artificially implanted antibodies.
I was actually wondering about the %'s being tossed around. I'll need to read up more on the terminology. THanks

OK, so I read through it... that seems like a pretty good reduction.

Basically 1 in every 135 unvaccinated people contracted COVID

vs a 1 in 2500 chance if you're vaccinated.....


That's a big reduction IMO. I mean you're over 18 times more likely to contract it w/out the vaccine
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Originally Posted By Paul
All this free food. I guess they are “truly” giving the lab rats the cheese at the end of the experiment.
I do find it highly irresponsible of the CDC not to have lead the early cautions with "if you're fat, stop being fat and exercise more" given we knew VERY early that obesity was basically the No.1 predictor of negative outcomes.

I don't recall anyone pushing for people to exercise, lose weight, or take vitamin D in the way they're pandering for the vaccine.
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https://nypost.com/2021/04/23/nyc-ma...rce=NYPTwitter


Donald Trump supporter Nick Quaranta, 42, a mortgage loan officer from Staten Island says he came in to get vaccinatedbecause the former president said to do it.

"The reason we are being murdered with genetic altering drugs is its slow acting and it causes your body to malfunction and destroy itself so there is a "plausible deniability" factor. Unlike most poisons which leave more evidence of being the direct cause of death."

1,151+ pages of peoples accounts of Covid-19 vaccine damage:
https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/
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You think Big Pharma doesn't murder/asssassinate its critics?


this is how they will perpetuate the lie. When the poisonous "vaccines" don't work and just make people sicker, they will blame it on the mutant covid strain + unvaxxed people making them sick. how convenient, right?




Looks like they had "conspiracy theorists" and vax haters even back in the day. No wonder big pharma had to devote so much time /money/effort into perfecting the demonization of its critics as "anti-vaxxers" all these years.
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any polish brahs here can translate this vid?

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POLAND. Video of them coming to collect the body of a woman vaccinated 2-3 days ago with a 2nd dose ....

These are the deaths in their media from COVIDA (artificial) that they are pushing on us as real covid....
The medics know what is going on but their hands are tied. Our Government kills with white gloves and corrupt doctors lie for money.


https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ybxt7Bm7ibWI/
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Originally Posted By AdamWW
I was actually wondering about the %'s being tossed around. I'll need to read up more on the terminology. THanks

OK, so I read through it... that seems like a pretty good reduction.

Basically 1 in every 135 unvaccinated people contracted COVID

vs a 1 in 2500 chance if you're vaccinated.....


That's a big reduction IMO. I mean you're over 18 times more likely to contract it w/out the vaccine
In which you still have to statistically have 2.6 or more comorbidities to even hint at death... also note, Trial studies was not done on anyone who was previously tested positive for COVID-19. Diagnosed meaning 1. To distinguish or identify (a disease, for example) by diagnosis. 2. To identify (a person) as having a particular disease or condition by means of a diagnosis.

Notice on page 31 that: “The study excluded participants who were immunocompromised and those who had previous clinical or microbiological diagnosis of COVID-19.” this means they didn’t trial the vaccine on people who previously tested positive for Covid-19..

https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download

So you cannot say 1 in 2500
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Look at this Obese woman pretending to care about health just to bully a kid


https://www.bitchute.com/channel/s97s1Vw7Yhfo/
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This thread should be published lol
I'll globe you

Likes all miscers instagram posts crew

Thought I was 6'3 but actually 6'4 crew

Engineering crew
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