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post 1638920773 05-19-2021, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted By DickHancock
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"Imagine a technology that can do 6-to-700 G-forces, that can fly at 13,000 miles an hour, that can evade radar and that can fly through air and water and possibly space. And oh, by the way, has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces and yet still can defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity," he said.
The elevated solar radiation in high altitudes probably has done a number on his eyes and brain. (half srs)
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
that has a giant fireball out its ass. it would have a heat signature on IR, it is not going 80,000ft a second and not going seemlessly between air and water without a splash
it would have a far smaller heat sig than an aircraft proper. that could make it relatively unnoticeable on ATFLIR
nothing is going 80,000 ft per second you tigerking husband meth head. this vehicle can out pace a jet by some 10x, however.
missiles can exit water "without a splash" but the report said relatively no wash as seen from some altitude at some speed

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Originally Posted By DickHancock
explain this *******
Probably not ET, but another country testing the US' defenses. The US is probably playing dumb to throw off the intelligence agencies of the responsible contries. You'd be surprised how many people in the US are in prison for accepting bribes or treason, everyone plays dirty when it comes to national intelligence.
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Originally Posted By Natty99
Probably not ET, but another country testing the US' defenses. The US is probably playing dumb to throw off the intelligence agencies of the responsible contries. You'd be surprised how many people in the US are in prison for accepting bribes or treason, everyone plays dirty when it comes to national intelligence.
“That day,” Underwood recalls, “Dave Fravor was like, ‘Hey, dude. BOLO.’ Like, be on the lookout for just something weird. I can’t remember the exact terms that he used. I didn’t really think much about it at the time. But once I was able to acquire it on the radar and on the FLIR [forward-looking infrared camera], that’s kind of where things — I wouldn’t say ‘went sideways’ — but things were just different.”

its just raytheon testing aviators.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
I imagine that alien civilizations like to keep tabs on developing planets and once the creatures on that planet reach the stage of spaceflight, the aliens start taking them seriously. We're probably just being monitored. Eventually when our technology is advanced enough, perhaps they'll invite us into the club and we can use their mass effect relays and travel the universe. I am excited! Beam me up, kunts!
we do the exact same chit. The UFOs are behaving just as we do. We spent billions of dollars to send robots to other planets and moons to take samples of dirt. We send robot submersibles to the mariana trench just to look at chit. If we could go to other planets outside of this solar system we would in a heart beat. If we could send manned spacecraft to mars and other planets we would. We sent people to a lifeless moon just to look at the dirt and jump around and declared it a victory. WHY WOULDNT aliens come to the earth to look at us, take pictures, kidnap and disect people ect. That is exactly what we would do if we were them.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
it would have a far smaller heat sig than an aircraft proper. that could make it relatively unnoticeable on ATFLIR
nothing is going 80,000 ft per second you tigerking husband meth head. this vehicle can out pace a jet by some 10x, however.
missiles can exit water "without a splash" but the report said relatively no wash as seen from some altitude at some speed

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so to defend your stances you have to resort to lies. Because they arent defendable.

they are already on record, 80,000 ft a second and also the UFOs disappearing before their eyes and them regaining them on radar 60 miles away in seconds.


Your little theory collapses and the only way you can continue to defend it is well, they were telling the truth sometimes but for those particular events were lying.

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Originally Posted By elterrible987
so to defend your stances you have to resort to lies. Because they arent defendable.

they are already on record, 80,000 ft a second and also the UFOs disappearing before their eyes and them regaining them on radar 60 miles away in seconds.


Your little theory collapses and the only way you can continue to defend it is well, they were telling the truth sometimes but for those particular events were lying.

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show me 80,000 feet per second anywhere.

you cannot "see" 80,000 fps (obviosuly)

no known craft has did this speed. icbms in upper atmosphere can do maybe 26,000 fps. the craft i posted is designed to intercept icbms.

the EKV deploys a fleet of MKV. these can go fast as fuk and maybe they are the size of a refrigerator. if it hit the water at 30,000 fps it is prob gonna disintegrate.

i mean this theory is entirely plausible and i can still 100% believe in aliens.
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if you ram some shiit into the water at 80,000 fps it is most definitely gonna disappear without a trace. if the same thing pops back up on your radar maybe it is a different one. the copilot even says "Theres a whole fleet of these things"

also the ekv looks an awful lot like a 40 foot white cigar with no wings





or it could be this.
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Originally Posted By GrimRep_er
If these things are from another place, they would most likely be unmanned drones looking out of curiosity as would we if we knew of another place with life and had the means to get there. We also would have no idea how long ago they were actually sent or how long they have been present. For all we know they could have been hovering around for hundreds of years. Maybe as our technology advances we are just becoming aware of their presence.

I don't necessarily believe all of that but if they are not man-made then everything is on the table. Its not dumb or gullible to think the answers are beyond our ability to comprehend.

Like another poster stated, everything is science fiction until it's not. Imagine if we got to see the world 2k years from now. We'd probably see things that would seem like magic right now.
agreed and if they are unmanned then the crafts are all we have and there will be no big reveal like how some ppl want.
Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
if you ram some shiit into the water at 80,000 fps it is most definitely gonna disappear without a trace. if the same thing pops back up on your radar maybe it is a different one. the copilot even says "Theres a whole fleet of these things"

also the ekv looks an awful lot like a 40 foot white cigar with no wings





or it could be this.
your argument for it being one of those ekv's is plausible but advancements from the 80's and 90's on those things would need to be extremely significant assuming the speeds reported by multiple military witnesses is somewhat accurate. why would the ekv circle around upward toward the pilot while the pilot is going down and then when it gets close zoom off? start at 6:30

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Originally Posted By Coal
Sorry but you simply have no understanding of how big the universe is. Let's go ground up and I'll keep it simple. Life is incredibly rare in the universe, but it most likely exists. The vast majority of this already rare occurrence will be simple, single celled lifeforms. Intelligent life is an extremely tiny subset of an already rare occurrence.

Therefore, it's safe to say that civilizations more advanced than humans are so rare that they would be very far from us. The fastest thing in the universe is light and it's impossible for any technology to get anywhere close to that. To add, light speeds are achieved by photons of zero mass and we're talking about the technology and energy required to move a mothership at near to those speeds. Not happening, not even close. The energy required for that alone will be more than our sun can provide.

Now let's play along and pretend that somehow they could attain half of light speed. Let me also be very VERY gracious and assume one advanced civilization lives just 25,000 light years away. At those speeds it would take several tens of thousands of years of travel to reach us. Thousands of generations of aliens would live and die on this ship. Finally after 50,000 years of travel and consuming the equivalent of an entire star's worth of energy, this super advanced race sacrifices so much just for the opportunity to zip around in our clouds all day doing absolutely nothing, play hide n seek with our jets and shove probs up our rectums.

Does that seem remotely worth it to you?
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Originally Posted By DandyDink
why would the ekv circle around upward toward the pilot while the pilot is going down and then when it gets close zoom off? start at 6:30
what do you mean why? the dickhead on the ground drove it that way. with the exception of the scale/size of the sub wash this entire video reinforces my hypothesis, you a whole retard.

it must be aliens though thats more plausible than a missile defense project.
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[QUOTE=AltarOfPlagues post_id=1638923523]if you ram some shiit into the water at 80,000 fps it is most definitely gonna disappear without a trace. if the same thing pops back up on your radar maybe it is a different one. the copilot even says "Theres a whole fleet of these things"

also the ekv looks an awful lot like a 40 foot white cigar with no wings

[img]http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/06/54cfbae75c77e_-_missile-v-missile-500-1208.jpg[/]

[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2b/b8/78/2bb878f33afd34e139d592a2e37db1b2.gif[/]

or it could be this.[/QUOTE]Cool bro, can you explain how it accelerates to Mach 4 nearly instantaneously without any audible sonic boom and has no heat signature on IR?
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard
Cool bro, can you explain how it accelerates to Mach 4 without any audible sonic boom and has no heat signature on IR?
who would hear the sonic boom out south of clemente island? the lack of the MENTION of a sonic boom is your smoking gun for aliens visitin earth, and you have no clue how retarded that is.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
who would hear the sonic boom out south of clemente island? the lack of the MENTION of a sonic boom is your smoking gun for aliens visitin earth, and you have no clue how retarded that is.
The Navy observing them... ???

The lack of the MENTION of how the "missile defense project" accelerated to several thousand mph within moments is your smoking gun for "it must be military bro", and you have no clue how retarded that is.
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard
The Navy observing them... ???

The lack of the MENTION of how the "missile defense project" accelerated to several thousand mph within moments is your smoking gun for "it must be military bro", and you have no clue how retarded that is.
icbms travel to 15,000 mph and here is a missile defense vehicle designed to destroy missiles by impacting them. idk how else to explain it. everything im mentioning is declassified. so NOT to mention tech that is not public knowledge.

not only is it fast as fuk, it flips around and shiit, it hovers, it is deployed in fleets from the stratosphere or from the ground, or presumably from a submarine.

not only does it do all of that, its employs a series of engines with the potential to disperse an atflir heat signature.


you can still believe in aliens and believe this is plausibly just missile defense tech. i know youre completely entrenched at this point from me repeatedly calling you retarded, so i understand that is impossible for you to concede.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
what do you mean why? the dickhead on the ground drove it that way. with the exception of the scale/size of the sub wash this entire video reinforces my hypothesis, you a whole retard.

it must be aliens though thats more plausible than a missile defense project.
I have not once said it was alien. I also asked you a legit question without being facetious. I said your argument was plausible. Are you a half retard? Tell us where the alien touched you.

If these uap's are ours why would the pilot of the ekv interact with the navy pilot at all in that way? I would assume they would limit interactions at all costs to prevent situations like the ones happening now. Also if it is ours and its going at those reported speeds i would think a human wouldn't have the ability to maneuver a drone at those types of speeds.

I would love for it to be aliens but im not a weirdo on either side of the argument claiming one or the other as absolute fact.

Later in that vid there is also a report of one of them being a cube 15:45

At those speeds i would think it would be hard to tell what something was but the pilot seems to have seen something cube like. If this is true there are multiple uap's out there with different shapes and not just tic tac shaped like the ekv
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
that has a giant fireball out its ass. it would have a heat signature on IR, it is not going 80,000ft a second and not going seemlessly between air and water without a splash
It's from the '80's. I remember the '80s and playing Pac Man on my Atari 2000, good times. Also remember when home computers came out. No mouse, no windows, no hard drive, operated on DOS and you type in command prompts.

They made that thing probably on a drawing board. They literally drew it, not design it on a cad program. It's like me fixing cars. I can do a lot of stuff if I had the right tools for it. They have much better tools now compared to the '80s
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Originally Posted By DandyDink
If these uap's are ours why would the pilot of the ekv interact with the navy pilot at all in that way? I would assume they would limit interactions at all costs to prevent situations like the ones happening now. Also if it is ours and its going at those reported speeds i would think a human wouldn't have the ability to maneuver at those types of speeds.
airforce consultant test a relatively harmless tech on naval aviators. why is this hard to imagine?!

they are unmanned. dude.
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Later in that vid there is also a report of one of them being a cube 15:45
dude this is a cube sat in a bubble filled with helium/ hydrogen. a literal weather ballon.

yall just wanna act childish and believe in magic shiit, thats what it is.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
icbms travel to 15,000 mph and here is a missile defense vehicle designed to destroy missiles by impacting them. idk how else to explain it. everything im mentioning is declassified. so NOT to mention tech that is not public knowledge.

not only is it fast as fuk, it flips around and shiit, it hovers, it is deployed in fleets from the stratosphere or from the ground, or presumably from a submarine.

not only does it do all of that, its employs a series of engines with the potential to disperse an atflir heat signature.


you can still believe in aliens and believe this is plausibly just missile defense tech. i know youre completely entrenched at this point from me repeatedly calling you retarded, so i understand that is impossible for you to concede.
Buddy, you’re taking the raw speed out of context. The lack of IR signature, control surfaces, signs of propulsion, and insane acceleration are what make this intriguing.

Say it’s not the aliens, atlantians, subterraneans, whatever the fukc you want to theorize. How could modern humans possibly develop this tech? It’s like claiming the Egyptians had secretly developed rocketry and were making landings on Mars. Don’t say it’s anti missile tech, that’s ridiculous and you know it.
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard
Buddy, you’re taking the raw speed out of context. The lack of IR signature, control surfaces, signs of propulsion, and insane acceleration are what make this intriguing.

Say it’s not the aliens, atlantians, subterraneans, whatever the fukc you want to theorize. How could modern humans possibly develop this tech? It’s like claiming the Egyptians had secretly developed rocketry and were making landings on Mars. Don’t say it’s anti missile tech, that’s ridiculous and you know it.
it dont need control surfaces any more than a missile does. it has engines that point in different directions. a biproduct of this is no large heat signature from a central engine.
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard
The Navy observing them... ???

The lack of the MENTION of how the "missile defense project" accelerated to several thousand mph within moments is your smoking gun for "it must be military bro", and you have no clue how retarded that is.
These cameras do not record sound. For the ship, the people operating the camera are in a space within the ship many many miles away from what they are looking at. They are not outside within walking distance videoing this with a cell phone. For the fighter jet, sound recording is in their O2 mask (I think) for communication, not to record outside noise because all you'd hear is the loud as fukc jet engines pushing them through the air anyway.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
it dont need control surfaces any more than a missile does. it has engines that point in different directions. a biproduct of this is no large heat signature from a central engine.
You still have a heat signature from the thrusters... why would an anti missile weapon have stealth technology? And no, missiles still have a certain structure and shape to them for aerodynamics. What we have here is a fking orb, or “tic tac” at best.

And it still doesn’t explain why the military would nearly collide it’s highly secretive and expensive “missile defense device” with the intercepting fighter jets.
Originally Posted By Casca
These cameras do not record sound. For the ship, the people operating the camera are in a space within the ship many many miles away from what they are looking at. They are not outside within walking distance videoing this with a cell phone. For the fighter jet, sound recording is in their O2 mask (I think) for communication, not to record outside noise because all you'd hear is the loud as fukc jet engines pushing them through the air anyway.
Do you know how loud and far a sonic boom travels?
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard
You still have a heat signature from the thrusters... why would an anti missile weapon have stealth technology? An no, missiles still have a certain structure and shape to them for aerodynamics. What we have here is a fking orb, or “tic tac” at best.

And it still doesn’t explain why the military would nearly collide it’s highly secretive and expensive “missile defense device” with the intercepting fighter jets.



Do you know how loud and far a sonic boom travels?
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Originally Posted By DickHancock
https://www.insider.com/former-navy-...t-daily-2021-5

"Imagine a technology that can do 6-to-700 G-forces, that can fly at 13,000 miles an hour, that can evade radar and that can fly through air and water and possibly space. And oh, by the way, has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces and yet still can defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity," he said.
and how much acid did he take before interview?
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard
Do you know how loud and far a sonic boom travels?
I do not. Please provide the info with proof.

Anyway this is within the cockpit on a GoPro for sound (random vid), but they normally don't fly around with a GoPro recording


Here is sound from the mouth microphone, what is typically the only sound recorder on a plane. And this guy is evading a buncha missiles dropping speed, increasing speed, turning hard as fukc. What do you hear other than his voice/control, heavy breathing and Bithcing Betty?



On a ship, it's even more silent. They are in a compartment surrounded by compartments on the ship. And as I said, the cameras don't record sound anyway.
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[QUOTE=Casca post_id=1638954383]I do not. Please provide the info with proof.

Anyway this is within the cockpit on a GoPro for sound (random vid), but they normally don't fly around with a GoPro recording
[youtube]IY8BHSPhv90[/]

Here is sound from the mouth microphone, what is typically the only sound recorder on a plane. And this guy is evading a buncha missiles dropping speed, increasing speed, turning hard as fukc. What do you hear other than his voice/control, heavy breathing and Bithcing Betty?

[youtube]qUjX1RntqVw[/]

On a ship, it's even more silent. They are in a compartment surrounded by compartments on the ship. And as I said, the cameras don't record sound anyway.[/QUOTE]The UFO is flying at 14,000 feet. That is a sonic boom radius of at least 14 miles. On the open sea, the horizon only extends to 3 miles, and they claimed that they would run up to the deck to use binos and see the dots moving in the distance.

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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/5MCETiKCLhc[/youtube]

[QUOTE=AltarOfPlagues post_id=1638953163]yea im changing my mind to space aliens ur right.[/QUOTE]Nah it was humans. Ancient humans in Wakanda with advanced technology.

[QUOTE=AltarOfPlagues post_id=1638752463]i dont think the tic tac video shows no heat sig. i think it shows low heat sig[/QUOTE]Oh, and btw, the IR shows that the "tic tac" has a lower IR signature than the water surrounding it.

That means it's cold and not reflecting heat from the sun
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
airforce consultant test a relatively harmless tech on naval aviators. why is this hard to imagine?!

they are unmanned. dude.

doing this everyday for 2 yrs as one of the pilots claims? that seems unlikely


dude this is a cube sat in a bubble filled with helium/ hydrogen. a literal weather ballon.

yall just wanna act childish and believe in magic shiit, thats what it is.
It's interesting that you reply so matter of fact with these things. You're saying it's a weather balloon with no proof. I haven't made a single claim.

The vid says dozens of pilots reported seeing them over several months. None of these pilots could identify a weather balloon? That seems improbable.

The only solid point i've seen you make is the ekv possibly being th tic tac uap but it would have to be waaaaaaay more advanced version of the in that vid from the 80's to hit those speeds at right angles and go in and out of the water etc.


"Star & Stripes quoted former Air Force Capt. Robert Salas, who was at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana in 1967 when 10 ICMs he was overseeing suddenly became inoperative - at the same time base security informed him of a mysterious red glowing object in the sky.

Robert Jamison, a retired USAF nuclear missile targeting officer, told of several occasions having to go out and "re-start" missiles that had been deactivated, after UFOs were sighted nearby.

Similar sightings at nuclear sites in the former Soviet Union and in Britain were related."

Why would we be doing this to ourselves? (Not asked you specifically) I would think a controlled environment with these weapons tests would be enough. Also these types of shut downs with uap's sighted still occur. Seems like a waste of time to be conducting those same shut downs for 50+ yrs.
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