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post 1639357823 05-24-2021, 08:23 PM
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post 1639357863 05-24-2021, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels⏩
why groups shouldn't take it then?
Anyone who doesn’t want to for whatever reason…

I believe in bodily autonomy

If you don’t want it, cool.
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Anyone who doesn’t want to for whatever reason…

I believe in bodily autonomy

If you don’t want it, cool.
this we can agree on. finally! Lol
post 1639358223 05-24-2021, 08:28 PM
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post 1639358313 05-24-2021, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
I hope the depopulation plan is real and the survivors wont need to control others because there will be su much land and resources available.

A nice clean rock finally
It’ll be a bunch of non-confirming right wingers mixed with a bunch of ruling-class dictators…

That’s a future you want?

That’s a ‘clean rock’?
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post 1639358363 05-24-2021, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Risky in terms of what?
Purposely injecting poison into myself 100% knowingly

Vs

Possibly getting a disease with a 99%+ rate of non-complications.
post 1639360233 05-24-2021, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Another fun thought experiment for the anti-vaxxers:

Wouldn't it be easy for any anti-vaxx, anti-pharma, anti-government individual to simply lie and enter hundreds or thousands of lies into the database if they wanted?

The lot #'s for the vaccines are out there, and literally ANYONE can report anything.

The claim has been made that like 1% of adverse events are reported, but how would that be true of an open system like this?

If you had 100 anti-vaxxers, each lying and saying 100 random people died, well there's 10,000 illegitimate death claims.

You say they fudge the COVID deaths... what about people fudging the vaccine claims?

If you don't trust the studies on vaccines, why do you trust VEARS and/or it's under-reporting or someone's random articles or ******** shares?
You're calling people who don't want to be forced to take an experimental vaccine for a new virus that's not particularly lethal, anti-vaxxers.

Do you understand that we are against these specific vaccines, and not vaccines in general?

Or does it suit your purpose to deliberately conflate the two separate groups of people to further your narrative?

I'm not against the polio, tetanus, measles, mumps, and chickenpox vaccines (among others). However, I am against the vaccines for COVID-19. I don't want to take one and I don't want to be forced to take one in order not to be unconstitutionally burden with restrictions on where, when, and how I can go somewhere I want to go.

Do you consider me an anti-vaxxer?
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post 1639360313 05-24-2021, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Purposely injecting poison into myself 100% knowingly

Vs

Possibly getting a disease with a 99%+ rate of non-complications.
Right. Poison. Sounds legit.
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post 1639360403 05-24-2021, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
You're calling people who don't want to be forced to take an experimental vaccine for a new virus that's not particularly lethal, anti-vaxxers.

Do you understand that we are against these specific vaccines, and not vaccines in general?

Or does it suit your purpose to deliberately conflate the two separate groups of people to further your narrative?

I'm not against the polio, tetanus, measles, mumps, and chickenpox vaccines (among others). However, I am against the vaccines for COVID-19. I don't want to take one and I don't want to be forced to take one in order not to be unconstitutionally burden with restrictions on where, when, and how I can go somewhere I want to go.

Do you consider me an anti-vaxxer?
Nope.

But also, nobody is forcing you to get it.

Nobody is requiring you to prove you have it.

So, I’m not sure what you’re arguing here.

The vaccine is voluntary
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Nope.

But also, nobody is forcing you to get it.

Nobody is requiring you to prove you have it.

So, I’m not sure what you’re arguing here.

The vaccine is voluntary
there's already jobs where it is required for you to have it and places that wont let you enter without it.
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Nope.

But also, nobody is forcing you to get it.

Nobody is requiring you to prove you have it.

So, I’m not sure what you’re arguing here.

The vaccine is voluntary
Well, that's not exactly true. Public universities are now requiring students to take it, or be forbidden from setting foot on campus. Airlines are now forcing passengers to take it in order to fly. Military bases are now requiring it for soldiers. There is a slippery slope and we are on it. If we don't fight back now, more and more infringements upon what now must be considered a constitutional right will be forthcoming from public and private institutions.
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post 1639361293 05-24-2021, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels⏩
there's already jobs where it is required for you to have it and places that wont let you enter without it.
Based on an ‘honor system’

These places are just doing that to virtue signal, for the most part.
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post 1639361353 05-24-2021, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
Well, that's not exactly true. Public universities are now requiring students to take it, or be forbidden from setting foot on campus. Airlines are now forcing passengers to take it in order to fly. Military bases are now requiring it for soldiers. There is a slippery slope and we are on it. If we don't fight back now, more and more infringements upon what now must be considered a constitutional right will be forthcoming from public and private institutions.
Yeah those things are pretty messed up. I have to say.
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post 1639361443 05-24-2021, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Based on an ‘honor system’

These places are just doing that to virtue signal, for the most part.
nope, places that have given staff a due date to get it by or to look for another jobs. for example Houston methodist.
post 1639361513 05-24-2021, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels⏩
nope, places that have given staff a due date to get it by or to look for another jobs. for example Houston methodist.
And have they stated they demand proof?
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post 1639361963 05-24-2021, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
And have they stated they demand proof?
June 7th deadline to fully vaccinated with proof, yeah.
post 1639362343 05-24-2021, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels⏩
June 7th deadline to fully vaccinated with proof, yeah.
It does look like you can claim an exemption or actually just a signature from someone who is a doctor, registered nurse, or a couple other titles.

The whole thing sounds bogus to me
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post 1639362433 05-24-2021, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
The whole thing sounds bogus to me
In Oregon they are asking for proof of vaccination to attend events. Those that don't comply, get segregated.

Now, why do this if the vaccine works? If it works, then should it not matter if those that were vaccinated were with un-vaccinated people?

If not, then I still continue to question the reason for the vaccine.
post 1639362583 05-24-2021, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted By iamanalphamale⏩
In Oregon they are asking for proof of vaccination to attend events. Those that don't comply, get segregated.

Now, why do this if the vaccine works? If it works, then should it not matter if those that were vaccinated were with un-vaccinated people?

If not, then I still continue to question the reason for the vaccine.
That’s why I’m saying it’s bogus…
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post 1639362633 05-24-2021, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
That’s why I’m saying it’s bogus…
Ah, I must have read that wrong. My bad.
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Originally Posted By iamanalphamale⏩
Ah, I must have read that wrong. My bad.
IMO the vaccine should be framed as an option for people if they want it, nothing more.

People who trust the numbers should feel totally fine with whatever immunity they feel they’ll get, which includes the alleged safety among the general population.

People who don’t get it, whatever happens, happens…
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Originally Posted By iamanalphamale⏩
In Oregon they are asking for proof of vaccination to attend events. Those that don't comply, get segregated.

Now, why do this if the vaccine works? If it works, then should it not matter if those that were vaccinated were with un-vaccinated people?

If not, then I still continue to question the reason for the vaccine.
even lord fauci says that vaccinated people don't need to worry about unvaccinated people.

not sure why they are trying to ostracize people who don't want it so bad, what is their end goal?
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
People who don’t get it, whatever happens, happens…
In what way though?

At the moment it is looking like human rights as trying to be stripped away by the government for those that do not fall in line and get the vaccine.

Restrictions for those who do not get the vaccine may be minor ones at the moment, but what if it gets worse?

If you mean that they either stay healthy or they don't, then yeah, whatever happens.
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Originally Posted By iamanalphamale⏩
In what way though?

At the moment it is looking like human rights as trying to be stripped away by the government for those that do not fall in line and get the vaccine.

Restrictions for those who do not get the vaccine may be minor ones at the moment, but what if it gets worse?

If you mean that they either stay healthy or they don't, then yeah, whatever happens.
I’m saying that if people don’t want the vaccine that is their decision and it shouldn’t be a requirement.

If people don’t want it, that’s their choice.

Every decision has risks…
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
Every decision has risks…
Even being removed of your basic rights and freedoms as an American?
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Originally Posted By iamanalphamale⏩
Even being removed of your basic rights and freedoms as an American?
I don’t understand what you’re asking
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
I don’t understand what you’re asking
I am just wondering how far the risks of not getting the vaccine go with people that do not want to get it for whatever reasons.

Its starting to, at least in my state, be a serious punishment to the point that things may be slowly taken away from us in an attempt to get people to vaccinate themselves.
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Originally Posted By iamanalphamale⏩
I am just wondering how far the risks of not getting the vaccine go with people that do not want to get it for whatever reasons.

Its starting to, at least in my state, be a serious punishment to the point that things may be slowly taken away from us in an attempt to get people to vaccinate themselves.
I’m talking about how things SHOULD be, not how they are. I’m trying to communicate what I want to happen/what I think should have happened.

The vaccine, from the beginning, should have been framed as an OPTION based on XYZ research etc.

At that point, the messaging should have been: these vaccines are free, and here is what we know about the benefits, side effects, etc based on available data. They are optional.

If you opt not to get a vaccine, here are the known Covid risks, which we believe (based on aforementioned data) are reduced by getting the vaccine.

And that should have been the end of it.

Not getting the vaccine means the risks is the same as it always was based on available outcome data.

Getting the vaccine means the risk is XYZ less based on the data, but nothing more.

People can then choose to either trust the data and the vaccine or not.

Hopefully that’s more clear…

No vaccine = risk of Covid + whatever known and unknown side effects

Get the vaccine = less risk of Covid (based on whatever data) + whatever known and unknown side effects


The truth is we don’t fully understand the possible physical consequences of either… not completely.

Like I said, you’re just choosing between two options both of which have risks.
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
I’m talking about how things SHOULD be, not how they are. I’m trying to communicate what I want to happen/what I think should have happened.

The vaccine, from the beginning, should have been framed as an OPTION based on XYZ research etc.

At that point, the messaging should have been: these vaccines are free, and here is what we know about the benefits, side effects, etc based on available data. They are optional.

If you opt not to get a vaccine, here are the known Covid risks, which we believe (based on aforementioned data) are reduced by getting the vaccine.

And that should have been the end of it.

Not getting the vaccine means the risks is the same as it always was based on available outcome data.

Getting the vaccine means the risk is XYZ less based on the data, but nothing more.

People can then choose to either trust the data and the vaccine or not.

Hopefully that’s more clear…

No vaccine = risk of Covid + whatever known and unknown side effects

Get the vaccine = less risk of Covid (based on whatever data) + whatever known and unknown side effects


The truth is we don’t fully understand the possible physical consequences of either… not completely.

Like I said, you’re just choosing between two options both of which have risks.
agree with everything you said. Do you agree that a big reason why they are pushing it so hard instead of what you said above (optional) is that big Pharma is making insane amounts of money with this and that obviously, the more "jabs" are needed ---> the more money they will make
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels⏩
agree with everything you said. Do you agree that a big reason why they are pushing it so hard instead of what you said above (optional) is that big Pharma is making insane amounts of money with this and that obviously, the more "jabs" are needed ---> the more money they will make
I think that’s part of it yeah, there’s probably other reasons too, some good, and many bad.

It’s basically a circle of wealth distribution..

Big pharma are - I think - the biggest lobbyists in Washington. So, the more money they make, the more in turn flows back into government, which means if the government pushes the vaccines for production, that eventually trickles down/back to them. That part of it is definitely all connected.
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