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post 1639415453 05-25-2021, 02:41 PM
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do you agree with this quote/philosophy

from harvey deant.

if so tell me why.

"you either die a hero or live long enough to find you have become the villian"
"it takes a wise man to know when he is in error and a noble man to admit to it"
post 1639415553 05-25-2021, 02:42 PM
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What if you die a villain tho
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post 1639415733 05-25-2021, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
What if you die a villain tho
to an evil/disturbed mind that mighr be appealing. to a true hero who fights villians daily becoming what you either detest or once detested id imagine is a worse fate than death
"it takes a wise man to know when he is in error and a noble man to admit to it"
post 1639415783 05-25-2021, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
What if you die a villain tho
You either die a villain or live long enough to find you've become the hero.
post 1639415923 05-25-2021, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By LoveHBB⏩
You either die a villain or live long enough to find you've become the hero.
thats a nice thought.
"it takes a wise man to know when he is in error and a noble man to admit to it"
post 1639416063 05-25-2021, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
to an evil/disturbed mind that mighr be appealing. to a true hero who fights villians daily becoming what you either detest or once detested id imagine is a worse fate than death
But would the thought of dying a villain be worse to that person than the possibility of being able to work towards redemption?

I think dying the villain would be a worse thought.
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post 1639416403 05-25-2021, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
But would the thought of dying a villain be worse to that person than the possibility of being able to work towards redemption?

I think dying the villain would be a worse thought.
and if you cant/are not allowed to work towards that redemption what then?
"it takes a wise man to know when he is in error and a noble man to admit to it"
post 1639416553 05-25-2021, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
and if you cant/are not allowed to work towards that redemption what then?
Circumstance?


Like, your dad was an abusive azzhole, and you realize you are an abusive azzhole to your kid, but then kid tragiically dies before you can fix it? That kind of thing?
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post 1639416733 05-25-2021, 02:56 PM
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post 1639416893 05-25-2021, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky⏩
sounds very pessimistic. basically saying if you stay on this earth long enough, you realize how chitty people can be.

you can be a hero and do good deeds and people will not show any gratitude. hell they will even scorn and mock you.

what's the point of being the hero for people who would throw you under the bus for 100 bucks?
you dont aspire or do heroic things for that contingent, for that group of people. you do good, you take risk, you fight the good fight for the group of people that not just want you but need you and respect you and would jump in front of a bullit just as fast for them as they would for you.. even if that group of people are the minority are 2 out of 10.

thats who you do it for. the others are already on a one way ticket to hell. one doesnt need or even want their respect or appreciation. they should simply be ignored. pittied perhaps if you can find it in you to pitty them but most of them are not even worthy of that thought or emotion
"it takes a wise man to know when he is in error and a noble man to admit to it"
post 1639444413 05-25-2021, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
from harvey deant.

if so tell me why.

"you either die a hero or live long enough to find you have become the villian"
I do not agree with this quote/philosophy
“Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must remain silent.” - Ludwig Wittgenstein
post 1639445093 05-25-2021, 10:27 PM
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post 1639445123 05-25-2021, 10:28 PM
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post 1639445373 05-25-2021, 10:34 PM
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post 1639445573 05-25-2021, 10:39 PM
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post 1639445883 05-25-2021, 10:45 PM
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No. Don't agree. I don't have to die to be a hero. Heroic behavior comes in many forms. Helping those in need, teaching, leading, reprimanding, scientific breakthroughs medicine. You walk your dog today? Congratulations, you are a hero. From the dogs perspective.

My point is, it's all perspective/attitude.

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post 1639446173 05-25-2021, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted By CaroKannDefence⏩
I do not agree with this quote/philosophy
Almost like it's nonsense spoken by an insane man
post 1639446353 05-25-2021, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
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post 1639446483 05-25-2021, 10:57 PM
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A man is not without sin..none of us are good, or a hero..not a single one of us.
post 1639446933 05-25-2021, 11:11 PM
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Nah I don't think corruption is guaranteed over time, but disillusionment will definitely arrive at some point. At that point, there is a choice you make in the kind of person you will be.

Sometimes people try and give the impression that corruption is inevitable, that everyone eventually breaks and submits, giving up their morality and bending their will in exchange for some paltry comforts.

The truth is that the people who refuse this bargain don't make a huge deal out of it, and you won't see them bringing down others to ease the pain of their own crushed hopes. It is this invisible treasure that the broken man covets more deeply than anything else, because it cannot be bought or obtained through any impure means.
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post 1639447413 05-25-2021, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis⏩
Nah I don't think corruption is guaranteed over time, but disillusionment will definitely arrive at some point. At that point, there is achoiceyou make in the kind of person you will be.

Sometimes people try and give the impression that corruption is inevitable, that everyone eventually breaks and submits, giving up their morality and bending their will in exchange for some paltry comforts.

The truth is that the people who refuse this bargain don't make a huge deal out of it, and you won't see them bringing down others to ease the pain of their own crushed hopes. It is this invisible treasure that the broken man covets more deeply than anything else, because it cannot be bought or obtained through any impure means.
I like your posts.

Curious, would you say it's more choice or simply a reaction to stimuli? And what facets determine reactions?
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post 1639447963 05-25-2021, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted By lllEZRAlll⏩
I like your posts.

Curious, would you say it's more choice or simply a reaction to stimuli? And what facets determine reactions?
I believe that every man makes a choice in who they are. More than just reacting to a single situation, but in how we choose the overall course of our lives.

I don't know everything, but I do know that no one is beyond redemption nor are they forced to transgress on others. It's just that the widest path often leads to ruin and the narrow path takes some courage and sacrifice.

The world itself is corrupted, so avoiding or undoing corruption is an active effort. As long as you are alive, there is an option to do right by others and make peace. That is just my two cents though, I would not put my point of view over anyone else's.
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post 1639451963 05-26-2021, 01:53 AM
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Hero implies that you're contrarian and possibly naive.

The meaning of the quote is that if you live long enough going against the grain in a way where everyday is a constant uphill battle, and there's endless friction in achieving your goals because the environment within which you exist is not conducive to your goals or ideals, eventually you will become like water and change your goals, or find a way to achieve them in a way that benefits from your environment rather than tries to change it.

This sounds like 'villainy' because your original ideals of eliminating certain things in the world have changed, and you now no longer care, so long as you reach *one* goal.

It's absolutely true. You can't change EVERYTHING at once, so instead you will change one thing, but to change one thing, it comes at the cost of surrendering your other ideals.

the definition of insanity something something... and expecting different results
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis⏩
I believe that every man makes a choice in who they are. More than just reacting to a single situation, but in how we choose the overall course of our lives.

I don't know everything, but I do know that no one is beyond redemption nor are they forced to transgress on others. It's just that the widest path often leads to ruin and the narrow path takes some courage and sacrifice.

The world itself is corrupted, so avoiding or undoing corruption is an active effort. As long as you are alive, there is an option to do right by others and make peace. That is just my two cents though, I would not put my point of view over anyone else's.
words..but those are GOOD WORDS. enjoyed your post
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
What if you die a villain tho
Then you become a hero
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