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06-05-2021, 10:40 AM
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Lol at how expensive a middle class family lifestyle is
These prices are "all in" prices - including taxes/fees
Brb 700k house in a medium cost of living metro (near decent jobs, near decent schools)
Brb 50k SUV
Brb vacation once a year - 500/night hotel, 350/person airline ticket, 100/day car rental. Up to 4400 for 5 days, 4 people and this doesn't even include any activities
Brb eating out at a basic restaurant is 15/person at a minimum
Brb 1200 dollar iphones for everyone in the family
Brb tens of thousands to furnish home
Brb kids need extracurricular/sports/hobbies, $$$
Brb extra wear and tear on home/furniture/appliances/vehicles means more replacements/repairs
How is anyone supposed to afford this? (srs)
Inb4 OP you don't have to have kids or do that stuff. Yes, but thats not a middle class family lifestyle. Sure I can choose to be single with no kids, not take vacations, hardly eat out, and drive a 1000 dollar 20 year old car, but thats not the lifestyle I'm talking about.
BLS be like "inflation is just one percent brah"
Brb 700k house in a medium cost of living metro (near decent jobs, near decent schools)
Brb 50k SUV
Brb vacation once a year - 500/night hotel, 350/person airline ticket, 100/day car rental. Up to 4400 for 5 days, 4 people and this doesn't even include any activities
Brb eating out at a basic restaurant is 15/person at a minimum
Brb 1200 dollar iphones for everyone in the family
Brb tens of thousands to furnish home
Brb kids need extracurricular/sports/hobbies, $$$
Brb extra wear and tear on home/furniture/appliances/vehicles means more replacements/repairs
How is anyone supposed to afford this? (srs)
Inb4 OP you don't have to have kids or do that stuff. Yes, but thats not a middle class family lifestyle. Sure I can choose to be single with no kids, not take vacations, hardly eat out, and drive a 1000 dollar 20 year old car, but thats not the lifestyle I'm talking about.
BLS be like "inflation is just one percent brah"
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06-05-2021, 10:43 AM
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What you listed is not a "middle class lifestyle". That is upper middle class, bordering on upper class.
Most people who live the way you described have an income well into 6 figures or are one missed paycheck away from losing everything.
Most people who live the way you described have an income well into 6 figures or are one missed paycheck away from losing everything.
06-05-2021, 10:45 AM
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Where in the hell are you getting a medium cost of living home for 700K?
06-05-2021, 10:46 AM
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What middle class family is buying 700k homes, 50k SUV's, and booking 500/night hotel rooms...... the f*ck??? Miscers gonna misc
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Originally Posted By AWSbruh⏩
IkrDang wish I can afford all that. I made 160k last year and wouldn’t feel comfortable with anything on your list
Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
Literally none of those things are as expensive as you listed, unless you live in some high cost of living hell like California or New York and choose to live a consumer lifestyle.
Originally Posted By Freeze2000⏩
Who said 700k was a median cost home?Where in the hell are you getting a medium cost of living home for 700K?
I said a home in a medium CoL metro, near good jobs and near good schools
The "near good jobs and near good schools" means you will be spending a bit more than median
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06-05-2021, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By MrQuint⏩
A couple years before the pandemic I was on a business trip, company paid for the hotel but it was over 500/night when all the taxes/fees were included (srs). The base rate was only like 230/night but thats not what you pay. Just a hyatt or mariott, not like it was a ritx carlton. And that room was just for me, imagine a bigger hotel room for a family$500 a night hotel? How about no
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06-05-2021, 10:50 AM
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you guys laugh but back before the gov imported immigrants to drive down wages, a average fella with a job had a house, a wife, kids, 2 cars and a boat by the age of 25
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You may be surprised to hear this, OP, but middle class is a range.
Most people who have kids are poor.
Most poor people live on government benefits.
That is why the birthing population is going down. People have realized being poor sucks which equates to having kids sucks; therefore, don't have kids.
This is a good decision for the majority of people especially poor people. Having children without the means to take care of them is a bad idea.
As to who can afford these houses - it is often those at the upper end of the middle class range and often those who delayed having children and focused on careers.
Most people who have kids are poor.
Most poor people live on government benefits.
That is why the birthing population is going down. People have realized being poor sucks which equates to having kids sucks; therefore, don't have kids.
This is a good decision for the majority of people especially poor people. Having children without the means to take care of them is a bad idea.
As to who can afford these houses - it is often those at the upper end of the middle class range and often those who delayed having children and focused on careers.
06-05-2021, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By SaviorSelfJT⏩
Your entire thread is around the concept of what the middle class spends on lifestyle. "spending a bit more than median" basically means you're now describing the upper middle class lifestyle... dumbass.Ikr
Who said 700k was a median cost home?
I said a home in a medium CoL metro, near good jobs and near good schools
The "near good jobs and near good schools" means you will be spending a bit more than median
Who said 700k was a median cost home?
I said a home in a medium CoL metro, near good jobs and near good schools
The "near good jobs and near good schools" means you will be spending a bit more than median
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
Yes. This was the lifestyle I had when I was a kid. One parent worked, and my dad wasn't a high skilled/high paid employee. Things are just more expensive now and wages haven't caught up. Srsyou guys laugh but back before the gov imported cheap labour to drive down wages, a average fella with a job had a house, a wife, kids, 2 cars and a boat by the age of 25
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Originally Posted By SaviorSelfJT⏩
Don’t think my family of 4 has ever paid that much for a hotel. But admittedly I am fairly frugal.A couple years before the pandemic I was on a business trip, company paid for the hotel but it was over 500/night when all the taxes/fees were included (srs). The base rate was only like 230/night but thats not what you pay. Just a hyatt or mariott, not like it was a ritx carlton. And that room was just for me, imagine a bigger hotel room for a family
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Who says middle class == median class?Your entire thread is around the concept of what the middle class spends on lifestyle. "spending a bit more than median" basically means you're now describing the upper middle class lifestyle... dumbass.
In my book middle class refers to an absolute standard of living, regardless of how local income percentiles match up to the cost of living that lifestyle.
Ever hear how the statement "the middle class is shrinking"? If middle class was just based off of the median band of income, that statement would not be possible as the size of the middle class would be constant.
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Originally Posted By SaviorSelfJT⏩
Society changed and technology increased.Yes. This was the lifestyle I had when I was a kid. One parent worked, and my dad wasn't a high skilled/high paid employee. Things are just more expensive now and wages haven't caught up. Srs
You can blame feminism for massive drops in wages or stagnation in wages. Where you to use to have 1 person in a family working you now have 2. That effectively doubled the number of workers in the work force.
The more labor force that is available the less capitalists have to pay as workers are abundant.
If you want the labor force to be paid more economical wages - stop having kids. Feminism ultimately will cure this issue as well as women become educated and focus on careers they will not have kids and thus the labor force will reduce regardless. Most families will opt for 1 child at most and populations will go down.
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Originally Posted By MrQuint⏩
Frugal.....aka not a financial idiot.Don’t think family of 4 has ever paid that much for a hotel. But admittedly I am fairly frugal.
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Op just made up numbers
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Originally Posted By tk217⏩
Agreed with both postsSociety changed and technology increased.
You can blame feminism for massive drops in wages or stagnation in wages. Where you to use to have 1 person in a family working you now have 2. That effectively doubled the number of workers in the work force.
The more labor force that is available the less capitalists have to pay as workers are abundant.
If you want the labor force to be paid more economical wages - stop having kids. Feminism ultimately will cure this issue as well as women become educated and focus on careers they will not have kids and thus the labor force will reduce regardless. Most families will opt for 1 child at most and populations will go down.
You can blame feminism for massive drops in wages or stagnation in wages. Where you to use to have 1 person in a family working you now have 2. That effectively doubled the number of workers in the work force.
The more labor force that is available the less capitalists have to pay as workers are abundant.
If you want the labor force to be paid more economical wages - stop having kids. Feminism ultimately will cure this issue as well as women become educated and focus on careers they will not have kids and thus the labor force will reduce regardless. Most families will opt for 1 child at most and populations will go down.
Though I'd tack on that due to immigration the effect you describe won't happen for a very long time
Originally Posted By Nonsense916⏩
What numbers do you disagree with?Op just made up numbers
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Originally Posted By 2020Wellness⏩
I like to think so. Trying to instill some of that in my kids tooFrugal.....aka not a financial idiot.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
agreed thats like upper middle class for sure.What middle class family is buying 700k homes, 50k SUV's, and booking 500/night hotel rooms...... the f*ck??? Miscers gonna misc
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Fukk inflation srsly
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That's upper middle class but yeah, more money you earn, more comfortable you live. TLDR; make more money
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This list is a perfect example of low financial intelligence. Not OP, but the lifestyle in the OP. A large house, an overpriced car, pointless vacations, latest iPhones yearly. All of those things are liabilities. Not one asset to be found. You can try to argue the home but that includes paying for taxes, repairs, maintenance, upgrades and all of this with post tax income. A family like this is likely 100% dependent on their salary as income.
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Originally Posted By snowergrower⏩
This.Fukk inflation srsly
And a grim realization that the advice of "going to school to get a good job" means you'll make more income, but have to live in a more expensive area which just cancels it out. A blue collar worker can live and work in the outskirts of the metro, but a white collar wagecel has to live in the expensive part of the city core (or suffer hours of traffic congestion per day)
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Strict press: 205x5
Deadlift: 405x13 (conv tap'n'go with straps)
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Originally Posted By Kawhilights⏩
Yeah, I agree. I don't live that lifestyle myselfThis list is a perfect example of low financial intelligence. Not OP, but the lifestyle in the OP. A large house, an overpriced car, pointless vacations, latest iPhones yearly. All of those things are liabilities. Not one asset to be found. You can try to argue the home but that includes paying for taxes, repairs, maintenance, upgrades and all of this with post tax income. A family like this is likely 100% dependent on their salary as income.
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Bench press: 315x5
Squat: 465x1
Strict press: 205x5
Deadlift: 405x13 (conv tap'n'go with straps)
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Originally Posted By SaviorSelfJT⏩
Yeah this is part of the problem. Inner city jobs aren't paying enough for workers to live in the area. Which means long commutes and quality of life driven downThis.
And a grim realization that the advice of "going to school to get a good job" means you'll make more income, but have to live in a more expensive area which just cancels it out. A blue collar worker can live and work in the outskirts of the metro, but a white collar wagecel has to live in the expensive part of the city core (or suffer hours of traffic congestion per day)
And a grim realization that the advice of "going to school to get a good job" means you'll make more income, but have to live in a more expensive area which just cancels it out. A blue collar worker can live and work in the outskirts of the metro, but a white collar wagecel has to live in the expensive part of the city core (or suffer hours of traffic congestion per day)
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