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Marriage isnt compatible with human nature. Unless we have a strict culture that enforces the norm and shames divorce/cheating, it'll keep going this way and getting worse.
44% of the divorces are 'we just grew apart'. Well no kidding. I dont understand how anyone can confidently say they want to be with this one person 10, 20, 30+ years into the future
44% of the divorces are 'we just grew apart'. Well no kidding. I dont understand how anyone can confidently say they want to be with this one person 10, 20, 30+ years into the future
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Then don’t have kids because fkers like you are the reason kids are growing up in single parent households which is most of the reason they are so fked in the head today.Marriage isnt compatible with human nature. Unless we have a strict culture that enforces the norm and shames divorce/cheating, it'll keep going this way and getting worse.
44% of the divorces are 'we just grew apart'. Well no kidding. I dont understand how anyone can confidently say they want to be with this one person 10, 20, 30+ years into the future
44% of the divorces are 'we just grew apart'. Well no kidding. I dont understand how anyone can confidently say they want to be with this one person 10, 20, 30+ years into the future
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The problem is, marriage isn't about love, it's about forming a strong partnership in order to have and raise well adjusted kids. In the west, people are deluded into thinking that the Disney idea of love is real, while Hindus are mostly arranged marriages, and as you can see, they don't get divorced.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
As I've stated, denomination is not nearly as important as doctrine.Right, it wasn’t until 1550 when Martin Luther came around that God finally got it right. Since you know those 1,550 years prior when people were majority Catholic (the other branch being Orthodox) that God let them practice a pagan religion.
You’re clearly ignorant to Catholicism, it would be wise for you to do actual research on what the beliefs are, why it practiced the way it is, to ask questions, than to throw out weak easily refuted diatribes.
Oh ironically enough, the whole reason Protestantism took off is largely because the king of one of the most powerful nations wanted to get a divorce!
You’re clearly ignorant to Catholicism, it would be wise for you to do actual research on what the beliefs are, why it practiced the way it is, to ask questions, than to throw out weak easily refuted diatribes.
Oh ironically enough, the whole reason Protestantism took off is largely because the king of one of the most powerful nations wanted to get a divorce!
As it is written...
10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?
1Cor 1:10-13
However, Catholicism is not doctrinally sound. Vatican 2, Lumen Gentium 16 makes that painfully obvious with their assertion that pretty much any person devoutly following a good life will enter Heaven. This is apostasy by every scope of the definition.
Neither can your Priest listen to your sins, prescribe you a penance, you perform it and then you're all good. We are justified through faith alone in Christ alone. Full stop.
I'd say I know a little more about Catholicism than you think I do. Enough to know to steer clear anyway.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
These are all arguments against both, not in benefit of either. Constantine adopted pagan rituals and religious structure, period. Even worse, Luther merely whittled that text down to his own narrative, albeit potentially less contradicting.Right, it wasn’t until 1550 when Martin Luther came around that God finally got it right. Since you know those 1,550 years prior when people were majority Catholic (the other branch being Orthodox) that God let them practice a pagan religion.
You’re clearly ignorant to Catholicism, it would be wise for you to do actual research on what the beliefs are, why it practiced the way it is, to ask questions, than to throw out weak easily refuted diatribes.
Oh ironically enough, the whole reason Protestantism took off is largely because the king of one of the most powerful nations wanted to get a divorce!
You’re clearly ignorant to Catholicism, it would be wise for you to do actual research on what the beliefs are, why it practiced the way it is, to ask questions, than to throw out weak easily refuted diatribes.
Oh ironically enough, the whole reason Protestantism took off is largely because the king of one of the most powerful nations wanted to get a divorce!
Apparently God needs an editor.
My two cents:
I'm not familiar at all with the apocrypha or deuterocanonical texts, so Catholic rituals may be written down and canon for them
however
The lutherian bible has a consistent logic that pushes forward the sovereignty of God and the power of his sacrifice.
So what can we expect? If you accept the Lutherian bible, then you accept the premise that the religious texts are flawed, but you get a somewhat reasonable religion.
In converse, the Catholic texts demonstrate this to be true just by their sheer ridiculousness and importance placed on cultural norms of the time. Its really just a bridge for Pagans to Christianity, and should have been discarded once fully adopted. It seems it took another millennia.
You can't expect anyone to authoritatively state that these writings are final. That's either a crack in the foundation or the only thing that will push religion forward in the future.
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Originally Posted By PTzFree⏩
How do you know who Christ will and will not bestow his grace upon in order to enter heaven?As I've stated, denomination is not nearly as important as doctrine.
As it is written...
10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?
1Cor 1:10-13
However, Catholicism is not doctrinally sound. Vatican 2, Lumen Gentium 16 makes that painfully obvious with their assertion that pretty much any person devoutly following a good life will enter Heaven. This is apostasy by every scope of the definition.
Neither can your Priest listen to your sins, prescribe you a penance, you perform it and then you're all good. We are justified to through faith alone in Christ alone. Full stop.
I'd say I know a little more about Catholicism than you think I do. Enough to know to steer clear anyway.
As it is written...
10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?
1Cor 1:10-13
However, Catholicism is not doctrinally sound. Vatican 2, Lumen Gentium 16 makes that painfully obvious with their assertion that pretty much any person devoutly following a good life will enter Heaven. This is apostasy by every scope of the definition.
Neither can your Priest listen to your sins, prescribe you a penance, you perform it and then you're all good. We are justified to through faith alone in Christ alone. Full stop.
I'd say I know a little more about Catholicism than you think I do. Enough to know to steer clear anyway.
Isn’t it pretty smug to assume that one has the same thoughts as Christ and knows how he will act upon judging someone? Especially when it’s written: Isaiah 55-8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.”
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Originally Posted By Briisk⏩
Yeah and the younger you get married, the higher the rate is. Imagine that. People change a lot in their 20's.12 years is the average length of marriage. Lots of people getting married late 28-32 now, so prepare for lots of single lonely women around age 40-44.
Mexico seems to have low divorce rate, latinas the way to go
Mexico seems to have low divorce rate, latinas the way to go
And yes, tons of single moms out there in their early 40's which are super low hanging fruit on Tinder to get laid with. Basically any weekend they don't have their kids they are looking to get some action.
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probably plays a role too. but i stand by my claim. You cant survive as a single mother in poor countries so staying with someone you hate is still preferable. more wealth = more optionsIt could also mean that wealth obsession kills your soul
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Religious structure was already in place prior to Constantine. Paul wrote about the Eucharist in Corinthians, and there are documents written by the younger Pliny (a pagan) to emperor Trajan on how the liturgy was conducted. I’m sure you’ll say that Christmas is an adaptation of Saturnalia as your counter-point. However, 12/25 was never celebrated as the birth of Christ and had no major significance prior to Constantine. It is thought that repurposing Saturnalia to Christmas was an attempt to remove the debauchery associated with Saturnalia and turn it into a spiritually wholesome time.These are all arguments against both, not in benefit of either. Constantine adopted pagan rituals and religious structure, period. Even worse, Luther merely whittled that text down to his own narrative, albeit potentially less contradicting.
Apparently God needs an editor.
Apparently God needs an editor.
Whittled down to less contradicting? Luther removed books from the Bible and tried to do away with Hebrews and James since they would go against his own theology of being against good works.
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The reason this country is collapsing is the same reason the ussr did.
Godlessness.
We need religion again to save us
Godlessness.
We need religion again to save us
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Isn't it something like 50% of people couldn't deal with an unexpected $500 expense? Nothing will send a woman running faster than financial problems.interesting that the average length of marriage is longer in the higher divorcing countries. unless India, ect werent included.
So it seems the more wealthy a country is the more divorce and the poorer the country the more the husband and wife need to stay together. just seems like survival needs are forcing people to stay together in those countries
So it seems the more wealthy a country is the more divorce and the poorer the country the more the husband and wife need to stay together. just seems like survival needs are forcing people to stay together in those countries
Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis⏩
Half of the infographic should be about money. LOL at not even mentioning it.This is a total crock of chit, why is "Catholic" listed as separate from "Christian", and "Buddhism" is listed as a religion for some reason.
It also doesn't list what is traditionally the main cause of divorce, which is money/unemployment.
But it's a pretty picture and authoritative sounding so it really rustles the jimminy jamminies.
It also doesn't list what is traditionally the main cause of divorce, which is money/unemployment.
But it's a pretty picture and authoritative sounding so it really rustles the jimminy jamminies.
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Women have child-like brains, but modern men are taught to respect them as equals. It's inevitable this causes collapse of most marriages, because Women are supposed to be dominated on the biological level, regardless of societal culture that can't ever change.
Treating Women as though they don't have child-like brains was a disaster for the human race.
Treating Women as though they don't have child-like brains was a disaster for the human race.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Not sure how anything you said conflicts my points. Sure, various writers wrote religious texts before the council of nicea but there was no commoncompilation yet.Religious structure was already in place prior to Constantine. Paul wrote about the Eucharist in Corinthians, and there are documents written by the younger Pliny (a pagan) to emperor Trajan on how the liturgy was conducted. I’m sure you’ll say that Christmas is an adaptation of Saturnalia as your counter-point. However, 12/25 was never celebrated as the birth of Christ and had no major significance prior to Constantine. It is thought that repurposing Saturnalia to Christmas was an attempt to remove the debauchery associated with Saturnalia and turn it into a spiritually wholesome time.
Whittled down to less contradicting? Luther removed books from the Bible and tried to do away with Hebrews and James since they would go against his own theology of being against good works.
Whittled down to less contradicting? Luther removed books from the Bible and tried to do away with Hebrews and James since they would go against his own theology of being against good works.
Lutherian bible doesn't include most pagan rituals, and instead focuses on fundamental elements of its religion. That's less contradicting by virtue of simplicity.
The catholic rituals make no sense.
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Thats why I don't plan on getting married and not interested in relationshipmaxxing. Don't know how dudes trust women these days when smartphones/apps allow sloots to sloot at unprecedented levels--if only just for attention/validation that they're still wanted by randoms.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
You went from saying there wasn’t a religious structure to now saying a written compilation of books. That’s moving the goal posts.Not sure how anything you said conflicts my points. Sure, various writers wrote religious texts before the council of nicea but there was no commoncompilation yet.
Lutherian bible doesn't include most pagan rituals, and instead focuses on fundamental elements of its religion. That's less contradicting by virtue of simplicity.
The catholic rituals make no sense.
Lutherian bible doesn't include most pagan rituals, and instead focuses on fundamental elements of its religion. That's less contradicting by virtue of simplicity.
The catholic rituals make no sense.
The books had already been written and widely disseminated prior to the council of Nicaea. The council merely reaffirmed which books were written of inspired origin. This was to remove any doubt of fake gnostic books, or perhaps inspired but not for certain books such as Clement, Epistle of Barnabus, etc.
The Lutheran Bible is the exact same Bible as it always has been, minus the Deuterocanonicals of the OT.
The Catholic rituals such as the Eucharist (communion) aka traditional rituals have been going on since the very beginning. As mentioned earlier, the liturgy (another ritual) had already been formed by 111 when Trajan was running around. To say that Catholic rituals make no sense is pure ignorance.
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To me, these are some of the most important factors to a great, long, loving relationsship.
1. Love and physical attraction (goes without saying).
2. Remember to show and directly tell your partner how much you appreciate and love them.
3. Talk about your expectations of a relationsship early on.
4. Do unique things together. It doesn’t have to be special, just unique to the two of you. Unique experiences create a stronger bond.
5. Create rituals and traditions.
6. Learn how to fight specifically and say what you want to have happen. For instance… does she not clean the dishes? Don’t say “you are so messy, don’t just leave the dishes like that ”, “you always leave the apartment dirty” or “you never clean anything” but do say “I would like you to clean the dishes”. It’s a random example but the point is to keep it specifically to the behaviour you dislike and not make broad statements about her personality and keep it to what you want, ie. I want you to X, instead of Don’t do X.
To me, these are some of the most important factors to a great, long, loving relationsship.
1. Love and physical attraction (goes without saying).
2. Remember to show and directly tell your partner how much you appreciate and love them.
3. Talk about your expectations of a relationsship early on.
4. Do unique things together. It doesn’t have to be special, just unique to the two of you. Unique experiences create a stronger bond.
5. Create rituals and traditions.
6. Learn how to fight specifically and say what you want to have happen. For instance… does she not clean the dishes? Don’t say “you are so messy, don’t just leave the dishes like that ”, “you always leave the apartment dirty” or “you never clean anything” but do say “I would like you to clean the dishes”. It’s a random example but the point is to keep it specifically to the behaviour you dislike and not make broad statements about her personality and keep it to what you want, ie. I want you to X, instead of Don’t do X.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
No man, I said Constantine adopted pagan structure. I did not say there was none before hand.You went from saying there wasn’t a religious structure to now saying a written compilation of books. That’s moving the goal posts.
The books had already been written and widely disseminated prior to the council of Nicaea. The council merely reaffirmed which books were written of inspired origin. This was to remove any doubt of fake gnostic books, or perhaps inspired but not for certain books such as Clement, Epistle of Barnabus, etc.
The Lutheran Bible is the exact same Bible as it always has been, minus the Deuterocanonicals of the OT.
The Catholic rituals such as the Eucharist (communion) aka traditional rituals have been going on since the very beginning. As mentioned earlier, the liturgy (another ritual) had already been formed by 111 when Trajan was running around. To say that Catholic rituals make no sense is pure ignorance.
The books had already been written and widely disseminated prior to the council of Nicaea. The council merely reaffirmed which books were written of inspired origin. This was to remove any doubt of fake gnostic books, or perhaps inspired but not for certain books such as Clement, Epistle of Barnabus, etc.
The Lutheran Bible is the exact same Bible as it always has been, minus the Deuterocanonicals of the OT.
The Catholic rituals such as the Eucharist (communion) aka traditional rituals have been going on since the very beginning. As mentioned earlier, the liturgy (another ritual) had already been formed by 111 when Trajan was running around. To say that Catholic rituals make no sense is pure ignorance.
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Divorces on paper obviously don't paint the full picture, we know that a lot of people back in the day were in bad marriages that couldn't be broken because of whatever societal/religious pressures that are much less prevalent now
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Yeah I'm a believer in the whole nuclear family aspect for raising children. But that doesnt negate the fact that many who enter marriages with the intention of having kids also believe the same, and separate anyway due to irreparable differencesThis is fine if you don’t want kids.
But if you do want kids then they need a trad con nuclear family for optimal results.
But if you do want kids then they need a trad con nuclear family for optimal results.
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The idea of a perfect marriage with the "one" is a huge farce. It died with our grandparents. Nowadays society is too woke and too "me me me" to actually contribute anything to a relationship. People are fukking miserable on their own and are somehow supposed to make someone else's life better? lol, okay. Too many too consumed in the lives of others and not focusing on their own. Too many people misunderstanding genuine actions and emotions because the world is telling them how to feel. I absolutely feel sorry for anyone born in this generation and beyond.
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So basically (real) islam is right about women.
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