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06-09-2021, 09:38 AM
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Layoff Time - Outsourcing The Jobs Without The People
My client today announced that they are going to outsource all their IT jobs to another company minus the people. They are expecting people to stay on and do the knowledge transfer to the new person. As most of us are already contractors I find this rather amusing. We already dont get benefits and vacation and definitely wont get any severance.
Why would you stay on to do knowledge transfer so someone else can have easy time. Find another job and get out.
Why would you stay on to do knowledge transfer so someone else can have easy time. Find another job and get out.
06-09-2021, 09:44 AM
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i'd gtfo the minute i heard that (ded fkn Srs)
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06-09-2021, 09:44 AM
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No severance, no benefits, the only loss they take by quitting ahead of time is not being able to collect unemployment so fukk that... if there's no goodwill from the company then it's no L on your resume to walk away and fukk any "knowledge transfer".
If they want to give me a severance that covers at least a few months salary, they can have the knowledge transfer.
Immediate walk out the door if someone told me that. No sense wasting time when you have jobs to find.
If they want to give me a severance that covers at least a few months salary, they can have the knowledge transfer.
Immediate walk out the door if someone told me that. No sense wasting time when you have jobs to find.
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06-09-2021, 09:48 AM
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This is the new way for companies to **** their workers. They model everything as a contract and every person employed is a contractor so they don't have to give the benefits of employees. Always lol how managers will always emphasize "we're a family here" and will smile in your face then call you up the next day with zero warning and tell you you're fired. Fuk em.
If I was in this situation I would come in, spend all my time applying for jobs and wait for them to fire me so I can collect unemployment if I don't find another job.
If I was in this situation I would come in, spend all my time applying for jobs and wait for them to fire me so I can collect unemployment if I don't find another job.
06-09-2021, 09:48 AM
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You could do it to make some extra money and still look for extra jobs.
Or you could get a job managing the outsourced clients.
In either case that sounds rough would get new clients ready or somehow prepare to land on your feet.
Or you could get a job managing the outsourced clients.
In either case that sounds rough would get new clients ready or somehow prepare to land on your feet.
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06-09-2021, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted By Komisch⏩
This^No severance, no benefits, the only loss they take by quitting ahead of time is not being able to collect unemployment so fukk that... if there's no goodwill from the company then it's no L on your resume to walk away and fukk any "knowledge transfer".
If they want to give me a severance that covers at least a few months salary, they can have the knowledge transfer.
Immediate walk out the door if someone told me that. No sense wasting time when you have jobs to find.
If they want to give me a severance that covers at least a few months salary, they can have the knowledge transfer.
Immediate walk out the door if someone told me that. No sense wasting time when you have jobs to find.
My resume is already up to date, I am a long time contractor. I have already started to look. I control my destiny, not them.
My boss has said he is going to try to get an exception for myself and others but I doubt that will fly. They are probably going to tell him to suck it up and deal with the loss.
There will be people that will hold out to the end, that wont be me.
06-09-2021, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By mvitz⏩
You'd have to meet him halfway and find a way to make yourself useful. The outsourcing may not work as well as they'd like. It's definitely a shot called from the top to cut down on costs.This^
My resume is already up to date, I am a long time contractor. I have already started to look. I control my destiny, not them.
My boss has said he is going to try to get an exception for myself and others but I doubt that will fly. They are probably going to tell him to suck it up and deal with the loss.
There will be people that will hold out to the end, that wont be me.
My resume is already up to date, I am a long time contractor. I have already started to look. I control my destiny, not them.
My boss has said he is going to try to get an exception for myself and others but I doubt that will fly. They are probably going to tell him to suck it up and deal with the loss.
There will be people that will hold out to the end, that wont be me.
You say that you control your own destiny, but we as working people must still sell our time to survive. When it comes down to it, it's all about the money.
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06-09-2021, 09:52 AM
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Stay on to transfer knowledge with no compensation package?
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06-09-2021, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By mvitz⏩
enabling this transition is anti american. Your company has acted unethical. Stay on and do nothing till your fired.This^
My resume is already up to date, I am a long time contractor. I have already started to look. I control my destiny, not them.
My boss has said he is going to try to get an exception for myself and others but I doubt that will fly. They are probably going to tell him to suck it up and deal with the loss.
There will be people that will hold out to the end, that wont be me.
My resume is already up to date, I am a long time contractor. I have already started to look. I control my destiny, not them.
My boss has said he is going to try to get an exception for myself and others but I doubt that will fly. They are probably going to tell him to suck it up and deal with the loss.
There will be people that will hold out to the end, that wont be me.
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06-09-2021, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Outsourcing to cheap overseas labor to save on costs is the most American thing.enabling this transition is anti american. Your company has acted unethical. Stay on and do nothing till your fired.
In terms of ethics, the most successful businesses are the least ethical.
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06-09-2021, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted By BroImNigerian⏩
This. Lol at all that team building company culture bs. They'll drop you in a heartbeat if necessary with no warningAlways lol how managers will always emphasize "we're a family here" and will smile in your face then call you up the next day with zero warning and tell you you're fired. Fuk em.
06-09-2021, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted By bov188⏩
There is no penalty.What is the penalty for the current IT people to break their contract?
Lol They're dangling the carrot to squeeze as much as possible out of you before they kick you out the door
Lol They're dangling the carrot to squeeze as much as possible out of you before they kick you out the door
I know that carrot and dont believe it.
06-09-2021, 10:14 AM
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its a small world OP- maybe just suck it up and keep your head up high and leave in good terms. **** aint easy i can tell you that- GL bud...
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06-09-2021, 10:15 AM
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The goal of business is to make profit. Nothing wrong with what they're doing.
06-09-2021, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
I would think it would make it easier since if you WFH and they never see your face again... Pure Profit= $$$$ for themThe goal of business is to make profit. Nothing wrong with what they're doing.
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06-09-2021, 10:21 AM
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06-09-2021, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By mr.left
I've been remote working for a long time, even before the lockdowns.I would think it would make it easier since if you WFH and they never see your face again... Pure Profit= $$$$ for them
A new thing these days are big companies that are completely virtual. I once interviewed for a bank that was all remote workers.
No real estate costs, office furniture and equipment, maintenance and utilities, etc.
Saves a ton on costs as all these things are supplied by the employees and their home offices.
Same with online retail, people shop online a lot these days so you don't need to pay for a brick and mortar store.
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06-09-2021, 10:27 AM
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I would do what Ive done when I was young and I predicted a big chitting coming from upper management.
I wait until the worst possible moment to quit and then quit. Or do bare minimum/trolling until Im fired.
But I dont work in these types of jobs so it doesnt matter anymore.
I wait until the worst possible moment to quit and then quit. Or do bare minimum/trolling until Im fired.
But I dont work in these types of jobs so it doesnt matter anymore.
06-09-2021, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis⏩
yes ,you are Correct. what I'm talking about is with WFH you never build a real relationship so these mutha****ers never lose sleep over replacing you ,not like they ever did to some degree - its tough we are just a ****ing NumberI've been remote working for a long time, even before the lockdowns.
A new thing these days are big companies that are completely virtual. I once interviewed for a bank that was all remote workers.
No real estate costs, office furniture and equipment, maintenance and utilities, etc.
Saves a ton on costs as all these things are supplied by the employees and their home offices.
Same with online retail, people shop online a lot these days so you don't need to pay for a brick and mortar store.
A new thing these days are big companies that are completely virtual. I once interviewed for a bank that was all remote workers.
No real estate costs, office furniture and equipment, maintenance and utilities, etc.
Saves a ton on costs as all these things are supplied by the employees and their home offices.
Same with online retail, people shop online a lot these days so you don't need to pay for a brick and mortar store.
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06-09-2021, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By mr.left
This is the correct answer. Any petty **** you do will come back and bite you in the assits a small world OP- maybe just suck it up and keep your head up high and leave in good terms. **** aint easy i can tell you that- GL bud...
06-09-2021, 10:39 AM
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you know if they are getting outsourced to mexico? hehe asking for a friend.
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06-09-2021, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By umadbroski⏩
maybe its time to go back myself or be a P.O.S and collect free cash from Daddy Biden and crack Sonyou know if they are getting outsourced to mexico? hehe asking for a friend.
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06-09-2021, 11:19 AM
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So they had a meeting telling everyone that they want to do knowledge transfer to their replacement from India.
Considering we are already mostly contractors whats in it for me to train my replacement?
I get no severance, f^ck them.
Considering we are already mostly contractors whats in it for me to train my replacement?
I get no severance, f^ck them.
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