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Originally Posted By Paul
I’m gonna make this real simple for you..

Is Jesus... God?
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe that Jesus is God.
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe that Jesus is God.
Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe in the Holy Spirit.

Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
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See you dilemma ?

You just admitted you believe in the Trinity
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Originally Posted By Paul
See you dilemma ?
Nope.

John 14:26
the Holy Spirit, he shall teach you all things

John 4:26
The Messiah, he will teach us all things

The Holy Spirit = the Messiah (Jesus).

No dilemma.

Deal with it.
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe that Jesus is God.
Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
Nope.

John 14:26
the Holy Spirit, he shall teach you all things

John 4:26
The Messiah, he will teach us all things

The Holy Spirit = the Messiah (Jesus).

No dilemma.

Deal with it.
If Jesus IS God, AND Jesus IS the Holy Spirit..that means the Holy Spirit is God.

Are you like twelve years old that you can’t grasp this?
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe that Jesus is God.
You got owned.

Deal with it.
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In b4 thread move to R&P
Damn
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Originally Posted By Jandels
In b4 thread move to R&P
I think they're trolling us. This is turning into that splitting lifting 3 days a week compared to 4 thread, can't link it cause I don't know the title.
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Originally Posted By Paul
If Jesus IS God, AND Jesus IS the Holy Spirit..that means the Holy Spirit is God.

Are you like twelve years old that you can’t grasp this?
Dude,Trinitarian doctrinestates that Jesusis notthe Holy Spirit.

I am not a Trinitarian. You are.

I believe the Holy Spirit and Jesus are the exact self-same person. You do not.

Our contention is not with Jesus but withthe third person of the trinity.
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Originally Posted By stupid000
I think they're trolling us. This is turning into that splitting lifting 3 days a week compared to 4 thread, can't link it cause I don't know the title.
Lol, I read that one the other day. There was a link to it in the 'misc in memorium' thread. It's locked now and it might be in a different section.
Damn
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Originally Posted By Jandels
Lol, I read that one the other day. There was a link to it in the 'misc in memorium' thread. It's locked now and it might be in a different section.
It's still going around? Lol long love the misc.
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe that Jesus is God.
Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
Dude,Trinitarian doctrinestates that Jesusis notthe Holy Spirit.

I am not a Trinitarian. You are.

I believe the Holy Spirit and Jesus are the exact self-same person. You do not.

Our contention is not with Jesus but withthe third person of the trinity.
No
Triune doctorine states that all 3 are God, yet independent of each other in various times/circumstances

If Jesus is God, & Jesus is the Holy Spirit, then the Holy Spirit is God..TRIUNE.

It’s almost as though you don’t realize that 1+1+1=3

Keep trying, I’m sure one day you’ll post something intelligent
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Originally Posted By Paul
If Jesus is God, & Jesus is the Holy Spirit, then the Holy Spirit is God..TRIUNE.

It’s almost as though you don’t realize that 1+1+1=3
Again, there is no "third person", and "the trinity doctrine" states Jesus is not the Holy Spirit, but he is.
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe that Jesus is God.
Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
Again, there is no "third person", and "the trinity doctrine" states Jesus is not the Holy Spirit, but he is.
It states that they are all the same “Person”..just as you have here in this thread. Btw it’s a capital “He”, don’t ever make that mistake again
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Originally Posted By Paul
It states that they are all the same “Person”..just as you have here in this thread. Btw it’s a capital “He”, don’t ever make that mistake again
No, again, I believe Jesus is the same exact person as the Holy Spirit, you believe the Holy Spirit is a distinct person from Jesus. Let that sink in.
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe that Jesus is God.
Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
No, again, I believe Jesus is the same exact person as the Holy Spirit, you believe the Holy Spirit is a distinct person from Jesus. Let that sink in.
Was Jesus present in Acts when the Spirit fell upon the Disciples in the upper room?

Let that sink in.

When Jesus said I must go, but I will send a helper (The Holy Spirit) was it really Jesus that was going to be by their side?

Let that sink in.

You don’t have the Holy Spirit & your life shows it. You are no different than anyone else that doesn’t believe in God. You partake in the same sins, you slander, you lie, you live like a demon, because you are one.

Let that sink in
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Originally Posted By Paul
Was Jesus present
So you're done blabbering on and on incoherently now you're gonna ask me random Bible based questions but that's not how it's going to work.

Jesus is in me. "The third person of the trinity" aka the Devil and Man of Sin dwells in your midst aka the spirit of the antichrist.

It's over for you.
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe that Jesus is God.
Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
So you're done blabbering on and on incoherently now you're gonna ask me random Bible based questions but that's not how it's going to work.

Jesus is in me. "The third person of the trinity" aka the Devil and Man of Sin dwells in your midst aka the spirit of the antichrist.

It's over for you.
You can’t answer the question because you know the truth. You don’t have Jesus in you, because you reject the Holy Spirit.

What separates your life from everyone else?
The demons believed in Jesus..yet you live like everyone that doesn’t believe in God.

“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.”


You’re no different than anybody else, because you don’t know Jesus.

Don’t ever call yourself a Christian. Your life says the exact opposite. You are the worst example of Christ I have ever seen.
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Originally Posted By Paul
You can’t answer the question because you know the truth.
2 Corinthians 3:17
Nowthe Lordisthe Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there isfreedom.

1 John 5:6
And it is the Spirit who testifies, becausethe Spirit is the truth.

John 8:32
Then you will knowthe truth, and the truth will set youfree."

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I amthe way,the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, butby me.

No trinity
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe that Jesus is God.
Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
2 Corinthians 3:17
Nowthe Lordisthe Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there isfreedom.

1 John 5:6
And it is the Spirit who testifies, becausethe Spirit is the truth.

John 8:32
Then you will knowthe truth, and the truth will set youfree."

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I amthe way,the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

No trinity
Your first scripture makes no mention of Jesus, & proves my point

Second scripture..literally says ..it is the SPIRIT that testifies..not Jesus

Third scripture is speaking of the truth..not the Spirit

Fourth..again, makes no reference to the Spirit

You have no discernment of Scripture because you don’t have The Holy Spirit in you, so you can’t even understand what you are quoting.

If Jesus is truly in you, why do you live like a non-believer?
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Originally Posted By Paul
Your first scripture makes, & proves my point


2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the veilis removed in[color=red]Christ[color].
whenever a person turns to[color=red]the Lord[color],the veilis taken away.
[color=red]the Lord[color]is[color=red]the Spirit[color].
we preach[color=red]Jesus Christ[color]as[color=red]Lord[color],"
Originally Posted By Paul
Second scripture..literally says ..it is the SPIRIT that testifies..not Jesus
The Spirit is the Truth....

Jesus said "I am the Truth" in John 14:6.
Originally Posted By Paul
Third scripture is speaking of the truth..not the Spirit
The Spirit is the Truth. 1 John 5:6
Originally Posted By Paul
Fourth..again, makes no reference to the Spirit
In John 14:6 Jesus calls himself the Truth. In 1 John 5:6 the Spirit is called the Truth.
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele
I believe that Jesus is God.
Originally Posted By BrosefMengele


2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the veilis removed in[color=red]Christ[color].
whenever a person turns to[color=red]the Lord[color],the veilis taken away.
[color=red]the Lord[color]is[color=red]the Spirit[color].
we preach[color=red]Jesus Christ[color]as[color=red]Lord[color],"
Again, you don’t even know what you are quoting. Let’s start from the beginning
2Cor3-12

“Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech— unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.”

The Lord being talked about is God the Father when Moses spoke to Him, likewise, we can now remove our veil because we have The Holy Spirit (“Now the Lord is the Spirit;”) when we come to the Father saved by Christ.

You really don’t understand the Bible at all..do you
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Misc - start off an SRT thread, end up arguing about Jesus.
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Originally Posted By Paul
The Lord being talked about is God the Father
Nope. The Father is not in view. Jesus is.

2 Cor 3:16
the veil is removed in Christ.

2 Cor 4:5
we preach Jesus Christ as Lord,"

2 Cor 3:16
whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

Next.
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John 14:16

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever.

Acts 2:3-4

They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them


Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?
1 Corinthians 3:16

And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.
Romans 5:5

If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!
Luke 11:13
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So now you're just going to ignore everything and start a new kind of argument. Cherry picking verses which I can also do.. I also don't feel like explaining each and every verse you are now spamming and which I have already explained to you in the past.
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Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
Matthew 28:19-20

But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.
Acts 1:8

After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly.
Acts 4:31

But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.
Jude 1:20-21
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Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
Acts 2:38

For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
1 Corinthians 2:11

We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.
Acts 5:32

Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.
Mark 13:11
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When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me.
John 15:26comforter


FROM THE FATHER.



NEXT
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There is no trinity doctrine in the Bible. No trinitatian who is honest would ever claim there is.
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