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Originally Posted By LurkoLantern
I spent two weeks in Japan just prior to the pandemic, and noticed how most Japanese people seemed to eat lunch/dinner food for breakfast as well. I mean in the sense that there isn't a clear demarcation between "breakfast food" and "dinner food". At least not that I noticed.


And they seem to age pretty healthy
Originally Posted By iloveus
Cereal is awful for you.

Eggs are awesome for you. One of the best foods out there.

Toast is bad for you. Most grains are actually.

The food pyramid aka what the Government tells you to eat is full of chit.

A person should be eating high-fat, high-protein, low-carb, high-vegetable diet.

Yet the Food Pyramid says the majority of our food should be from grains. WRONG!!! It's completely backwards.

Grains are full of Gluten and Carbs causing food allergies and high blood sugar which leads to diabetes and other cancers.

People should be eating nuts and seafood and non-starchy vegetables.

Corn is terrible for you. It's a high-gycemic index food. Full of sugar.

Look at every box of food and you'll see - High Fructose Corn Syrup and Hydrogenated Oil. Highly Processed Corn Products.

It's pure poison.
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Modern Fruits are also heavily modified. Most fruits are full of added sugar. Fruits are not what our Ancestors used to eat. Treat fruits as candy. Just full of sugar.
Originally Posted By iloveus
In general, rice is fine. It's actually got a lot of helathy properties to it. The only problem is it's full of carbs.

I usually eat Korean meat that's full of beef, pork and I eat a lot of Salmon, rice. Anything green like Broccoli, Green Beans etc...

I eat a ton Eggs in the morning. The Yolks of Eggs are full of Cholesterol, B- Vitamins etc. It's the most nutritious part of an egg.
I see people tossing out the yolk and cringe.
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post 1641523053 06-24-2021, 07:50 AM
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Be like me & eat Trix/Cocoa pebbles


Chits delicious
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Short answer: yes... I'm no nutritionist though
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It shouldn't. Your digestive system doesn't know if it's 8 am or 8 pm, nor does it care
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I eat 6 eggs every morning after the gym
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Originally Posted By blissful88
Be like me & eat Trix/Cocoa pebbles


Chits delicious
Blissbrah pls Trix are for kids
Originally Posted By climberFROMmars
Short answer: yes... I'm no nutritionist though
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Originally Posted By mp83
It shouldn't. Your digestive system doesn't know if it's 8 am or 8 pm, nor does it care
It's 8pm somewhere
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Originally Posted By badbl00d
I see people tossing out the yolk and cringe.
I had a novelty idea a while back to open a restaurant revolving on yolks only.
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
I eat 6 eggs every morning after the gym





I like how Ahnold puts the entire egg in the blender including the shell lol

He also says he used to eat at the House of Pies after every Mr. Olympia lol
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Originally Posted By darkninja67
but who was flavor?
Nty

Gains > over flavor
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician
100ml vodka, 500ml orange juice + toast and eggs
High test breakfast.
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Eating Chicken may cause metabolic stress! what is Metabolic stress and why would chicken cause it? unless Raw! WTAF
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I have read about how the lobbyists for various industries have shaped our viewed of an appropriate breakfast. There are reasons we've been led to beleive that processed grain/high fructose corn syrup kibble swimming in milk with a glass of orange juice and some toast with butter is the best choice.
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Originally Posted By HenryBoogers
I have read about how the lobbyists for various industries have shaped our viewed of an appropriate breakfast. There are reasons we've been led to beleive that processed grain/high fructose corn syrup kibble swimming in milk with a glass of orange juice and some toast with butter is the best choice.
what did your research say?
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Yes, potential side effects include being healthier than people who eat cereal, improved gains, and improved quality of life.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d
what did your research say?
What research? Not sure what you mean. The information I had read was in regards to the dairy and farming industries (grain/corn syrup) driving the food pyramid and breakfast recommendation.
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Why would you think it's going to cause long-term health issues? The only potential issue I see is eating large, bulky breakfasts can leave you hungrier all day. In general I try to do a "low volume" breakfast (protein shake and a fiber bar or something) just to minimize the stretch so my stomach isn't expecting a massive lunch / dinner.
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Before I switched to IF 8/16 a few years ago I was eating eggs, yam and broccoli for breakfast everyday. I don't think it matters what you eat when you eat it as long as it's not crap food.
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Originally Posted By HenryBoogers
What research? Not sure what you mean. The information I had read was in regards to the dairy and farming industries (grain/corn syrup) driving the food pyramid and breakfast recommendation.
You said you read how lobbyists and industries have shaped our view of the food pyramid, and I assumed you read specific information, and wondered what techniques they used to do this.
Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
Why would you think it's going to cause long-term health issues? The only potential issue I see is eating large, bulky breakfasts can leave you hungrier all day. In general I try to do a "low volume" breakfast (protein shake and a fiber bar or something) just to minimize the stretch so my stomach isn't expecting a massive lunch / dinner.
Because I've seen how people who eat not only less food, but less dense food tend to live longer lives. I was just using wondering if what I ate something traditional like oatmeal in the AM if that would be better for long term health as opposed to what I eat.
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Originally Posted By Legz422
Before I switched to IF 8/16 a few years ago I was eating eggs, yam and broccoli for breakfast everyday. I don't think it matters what you eat when you eat it as long as it's not crap food.
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Originally Posted By iloveus





I like how Ahnold puts the entire egg in the blender including the shell lol

He also says he used to eat at the House of Pies after every Mr. Olympia lol
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Originally Posted By iloveus
Cereal is awful for you.

Eggs are awesome for you. One of the best foods out there.

Toast is bad for you. Most grains are actually.

The food pyramid aka what the Government tells you to eat is full of chit.

A person should be eating high-fat, high-protein, low-carb, high-vegetable diet.

Yet the Food Pyramid says the majority of our food should be from grains. WRONG!!! It's completely backwards.

Grains are full of Gluten and Carbs causing food allergies and high blood sugar which leads to diabetes and other cancers.

People should be eating nuts and seafood and non-starchy vegetables.

Corn is terrible for you. It's a high-gycemic index food. Full of sugar.

Look at every box of food and you'll see - High Fructose Corn Syrup and Hydrogenated Oil. Highly Processed Corn Products.

It's pure poison.
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Modern Fruits are also heavily modified. Most fruits are full of added sugar. Fruits are not what our Ancestors used to eat. Treat fruits as candy. Just full of sugar.
A lot of this is complete garbage

There's no issue with what you're doing OP. Foods don't have morality attached to them. There are no good or bad foods
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Originally Posted By arn710
A lot of this is complete garbage

There's no issue with what you're doing OP. Foods don't have morality attached to them. There are no good or bad foods
what about his post is garbage? Not arguing for it, just appreciate the nuance an informed guy like you can provide.
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I don't htink it makes a difference, tbh. I would say outside of the western world, most people eat things like rice as part of their breakfast, and they're much healthier on average.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d
what about his post is garbage? Not arguing for it, just appreciate the nuance an informed guy like you can provide.
Grains are fine so long as you don't have some sort of allergy or medical condition.

The body's preferred source of fuel is carbohydrates or glucose more specifically. You know what part of your body really loves glucose? Your brain! But yeah, go on with your low carb diet.

I'm not sure that person understands how blood sugar works at all so I'm not going to touch on that specifically.

The glycemic index is only applicable on an empty stomach and the food is eaten in isolation. I'm not a huge fan of corn personally but there's nothing inherently wrong with it

High fructose corn syrup is only an issue because people end up over consuming fructose in general. Fructose is processed and stored in the liver. Your body has a finite capacity for processing fructose. Excess is immediately stored as fat even when hypocaloric.

Demonizing fruit at all and appealing to an ancestral diet is complete pseudoscience nonsense. Engineering foods for a variety of reasons has had nothing but a positive impact on society
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Originally Posted By arn710
Grains are fine so long as you don't have some sort of allergy or medical condition.

The body's preferred source of fuel is carbohydrates or glucose more specifically. You know what part of your body really loves glucose? Your brain! But yeah, go on with your low carb diet.

I'm not sure that person understands how blood sugar works at all so I'm not going to touch on that specifically.

The glycemic index is only applicable on an empty stomach and the food is eaten in isolation. I'm not a huge fan of corn personally but there's nothing inherently wrong with it

High fructose corn syrup is only an issue because people end up over consuming fructose in general. Fructose is processed and stored in the liver. Your body has a finite capacity for processing fructose. Excess is immediately stored as fat even when hypocaloric.

Demonizing fruit at all and appealing to an ancestral diet is complete pseudoscience nonsense. Engineering foods for a variety of reasons has had nothing but a positive impact on society
Das it. I knew you would drop a gem.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d
Das it. I knew you would drop a gem.
If you have any other specific questions, drop them. I'll be around today
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Hows about you have those healthy options for weekdays and then on weekends maybe have the cereal, bacon, toast and all that? Maintain a balance in life and enjoy the foods that you like
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Originally Posted By arn710
If you have any other specific questions, drop them. I'll be around today
I'll go ahead:

1. I remember a while back you said something about how peanut/peanut-based products like PB are bad for you because they cause intestinal inflamation or something. (Pretty sure that's what you said.) Well, what would you recommend as an alternative to peanuts/PB that's equally nutritious?

2. How much protein do you recommend people looking to gain size/weight/strength consume per day? Is the commonly-cited 0.8-1g/lbs of bw accurate? Does the source of protein have a significant impact (e.g. beans and lentils vs chicken/tuna/beef)?
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin
It's sounds just the opposite to me OP. Chicken thigh, rice and veggies should be much healthier long term than cereal. Nothing wrong with eggs though.
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Originally Posted By LurkoLantern
Arnold has had TWO open-heart surgeries
somehow i don't think it was related to the eggs! plus there was also an underlying genetic component ........so now GET TO DAH CHOPPER!
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