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06-29-2021, 02:42 PM
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When I bought my house, the seller was in contract with another buyer. But the buyer backed out so seller could have keept the earnest money deposit.
However both parties have to agree and sign the paperwork for the seller to keep the deposit. Even when the buyer was in wrong, he didn't agree for the seller to keep the deposit. The seller could not put the house back into the market until it was settled. The seller eventually gave all of the deposit back to the seller after 2 month dispute.
However both parties have to agree and sign the paperwork for the seller to keep the deposit. Even when the buyer was in wrong, he didn't agree for the seller to keep the deposit. The seller could not put the house back into the market until it was settled. The seller eventually gave all of the deposit back to the seller after 2 month dispute.
06-29-2021, 02:44 PM
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The only correction will the the prices won't increase as quickly as now. Don't expect prices to drop.
06-29-2021, 03:07 PM
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06-29-2021, 03:08 PM
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uh oh, cash buyers getting cold feet!
lmao.
muhhhhh bubble!
lmao.
muhhhhh bubble!
06-29-2021, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
Curious how you think that’s the case when the buyer followed the contract lol srs you stupid *******Blockchain will solve this, srs.
06-29-2021, 03:32 PM
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I'm planning to sell in Sept. If the bubble pops before then, I'll just rent it out with a management company and ignore it. At least I'll have an asset.
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06-29-2021, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
People have cash *******. Maybe not bill or Tom next door, but Chad and investors do. If every home that is currently in default were to instantly hit the market, nearly all of it would be gobbled up by years end without massive “corrections” like the copecels here think.tell me, where do they get their cash from?
I'll give you a clue:
NOT SAVINGS
I'll give you a clue:
NOT SAVINGS
And to those who say “I’ll be waiting for a crash with cash in hand” apparently the guy above doesn’t think you have cash but aside from that, do you think you’re doing anything someone else isn’t doing? You don’t think there are a chit ton of people with even more cash and desire to scoop chit up than you? Yeah you really got this all figured out lol.
The financially capable are more liquid rich than ever before. People are chomping at the bit to buy, and are unable to due to supply issues. As soon as something comes online it will be devoured even if a million homes come online. The only difference you will see is lower competition and less bidding wars, but we will actually see more “realistic” asking prices (for those smooth brains that don’t understand why homes keep going so high over asking, it’s because they are priced low to get as many eyes as possible on it and then get people to compete amongst themselves. We will simply see homes listed accordingly)
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06-29-2021, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
If you're Chinese, you parents will hand you a bag of cash to buy a house.tell me, where do they get their cash from?
I'll give you a clue:
NOT SAVINGS
I'll give you a clue:
NOT SAVINGS
06-29-2021, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
LOL @ you for getting triggered over a discussion....People have cash *******. Maybe not bill or Tom next door, but Chad and investors do. If every home that is currently in default were to instantly hit the market, nearly all of it would be gobbled up by years end without massive “corrections” like the copecels here think.
And to those who say “I’ll be waiting for a crash with cash in hand” apparently the guy above doesn’t think you have cash but aside from that, do you think you’re doing anything someone else isn’t doing? You don’t think there are a chit ton of people with even more cash and desire to scoop chit up than you? Yeah you really got this all figured out lol.
The financially capable are more liquid rich than ever before. People are chomping at the bit to buy, and are unable to due to supply issues. As soon as something comes online it will be devoured even if a million homes come online. The only difference you will see is lower competition and less bidding wars, but we will actually see more “realistic” asking prices (for those smooth brains that don’t understand why homes keep going so high over asking, it’s because they are priced low to get as many eyes as possible on it and then get people to compete amongst themselves. We will simply see homes listed accordingly)
And to those who say “I’ll be waiting for a crash with cash in hand” apparently the guy above doesn’t think you have cash but aside from that, do you think you’re doing anything someone else isn’t doing? You don’t think there are a chit ton of people with even more cash and desire to scoop chit up than you? Yeah you really got this all figured out lol.
The financially capable are more liquid rich than ever before. People are chomping at the bit to buy, and are unable to due to supply issues. As soon as something comes online it will be devoured even if a million homes come online. The only difference you will see is lower competition and less bidding wars, but we will actually see more “realistic” asking prices (for those smooth brains that don’t understand why homes keep going so high over asking, it’s because they are priced low to get as many eyes as possible on it and then get people to compete amongst themselves. We will simply see homes listed accordingly)
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06-29-2021, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Are we in the matrix or something? Explain why. Why are you trying to sound ambiguous?Sell whatever property you have that is financed.
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06-29-2021, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
lol at thinking someone providing information is "triggered" just because the truth hurts, copecel.LOL @ you for getting triggered over a discussion....
Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
because he's talking out of his ass, and if he tries to speak with details/proof/whatever, he will expose himself.Are we in the matrix or something? Explain why. Why are you trying to sound ambiguous?
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06-29-2021, 04:08 PM
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Are any of your rental properties vacant? Just move into one of those temporarily.
06-29-2021, 04:18 PM
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I had a backup offer for mine just in case. of course closing wouldve taken another 20 days. but sorry to hear that brah hopefully it works out if you get a better offer
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06-29-2021, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
actually, you didn't...no and no
I asked you explain how people are moving from one house to another without selling the previous
I asked you explain how people are moving from one house to another without selling the previous
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Want to show me where I am saying that "the big bad investor boogie man is buying homes and driving up prices" or nah?Yet you're in here espousing that the big bad investor boogie man is buying homes and driving up prices when in reality they're buying about the same as before..
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
So what is driving up prices in already high markets and where is the money coming from that is being used for cash or 20%+ offers to buy these absurdly priced homes?Its easy to see that someone in cali refinances a humble house worth 700k that they have 200k equity, then they move somewhere where they can buy a house with said equity. This makes a cash market in the lower tiers, pushing locals up in price stratus if they want to buy. .
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06-29-2021, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
refer to your own sigthe entire market gets pushed up from the initial cash flow from refinancing of properties that aren't being sold. It ABSOLUTELY is a house of cards. If you dont get anything else from what I am saying, at least understand that.The same dollar is getting spent multiple times...
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06-29-2021, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
I'm not a "its going to crash any day now" type of guy - in fact, I believe a crash is years and years away. But kind of surprised you don't see we are in a period of irrational exuberance.actually, you didn't...
Want to show me where I am saying that "the big bad investor boogie man is buying homes and driving up prices" or nah?
So what is driving up prices in already high markets and where is the money coming from that is being used for cash or 20%+ offers to buy these absurdly priced homes?
Want to show me where I am saying that "the big bad investor boogie man is buying homes and driving up prices" or nah?
So what is driving up prices in already high markets and where is the money coming from that is being used for cash or 20%+ offers to buy these absurdly priced homes?
I'm also surprised by ppl saying "it ain't 2008, lending standards are higher". Do you honestly think banks have not figured out some other way to maximize their profits by high volume lending? And what fuels high volume lending? Increased collateral. A huge portion of USA's credit system is built off of the assumption that the underlying collateral is really worth what we think it is worth right now. If that is ever proven wrong (e.g., there stops being a secondary market gobbling up structured finance assets), things crumble, again.
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06-29-2021, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Strong username to post content ratio.I'm already seeing signs of the market cooling down. In about 6 months get ready to see mass defaults... Muthafccckers be offering $700K for a 1,200sqft shack... in what universe is a tool shack worth $700K and in what universe would the average American be able to pay a $700K mortgage with a 5% downpayment?
A correction is coming.
A correction is coming.
You're right though.
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06-29-2021, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
what is up with people ITT putting words in my mouth? I never expressed that sentiment, but I will ask, if inflation is here and its not transitory, then why wouldn't todays prices be more accurate than they arent? cant have it both ways...I'm not a "its going to crash any day now" type of guy - in fact, I believe a crash is years and years away.But kind of surprised you don't see we are in a period of irrational exuberance.
Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
This is an inarguable fact. just sayinI'm also surprised by ppl saying "it ain't 2008, lending standards are higher".
Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
Nope, never said that and don't think that. Banks are beyond words flush with cash, and have increased dividends substantially almost all the way across the board. But what does maximizing profits have to do with anything? Do you believe they are doing something unscrupulous like they were doing in 2008?Do you honestly think banks have not figured out some other way to maximize their profits by high volume lending?
Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
You act like that's a primary factor and not just one of many contributing elements.And what fuels high volume lending? Increased collateral.
Also it should be noted that in Q3 and Q4 of 2020, first time home buyers accounted for 56% of home purchases... hmmmm but collateral is what's getting us in trouble right?
Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
Value is meaningless in fixed rate situations for people looking for long term homes. The only thing that matters is if they can afford their payment (which is a circumstance completely unrelated to the value of their home).A huge portion of USA's credit system is built off of the assumption that the underlying collateral is really worth what we think it is worth right now. If that is ever proven wrong (e.g., there stops being a secondary market gobbling up structured finance assets), things crumble, again.
A large reason we experienced what we did in 2008 because people were in ARMs and thought they would be able to refinance forever because they thought prices will only go up! As soon as those values dropped, they couldn't refinance, and their ARMs expired and their 3% interest rate sky rocketed to 20%...
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06-29-2021, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
okay okay okay now imagine that but with panic buyers who bought a second home because they're assuming they'll never be under on the first that they refinanced to afford the second....at higher dti's than 2008.....A large reason we experienced what we did in 2008 because people were in ARMs and thought they would be able to refinance forever because they thought prices will only go up! As soon as those values dropped, they couldn't refinance, and their ARMs expired and their 3% interest rate sky rocketed to 20%...
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06-29-2021, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Lol at panic buying a second home.okay okay okay now imagine that but with panic buyers who bought a second home because they're assuming they'll never be under on the first that they refinanced to afford the second....at higher dti's than 2008.....
Lol at not reading my whole post where I mention how value is meaningless in fixed rate long term living situations.
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06-29-2021, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
tbh I don't read most of what you've written in the thread, I just assume when you address me that you've read what I've written. I have no idea what you're or most people are even arguing, nor do I care to.Lol at panic buying a second home.
Lol at not reading my whole post where I mention how value is meaningless in fixed rate long term living situations.
Lol at not reading my whole post where I mention how value is meaningless in fixed rate long term living situations.
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06-29-2021, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted By cgh⏩
Lobby your government to stop allowing foreign investors from buying up all homes. That is why homes are so expensive.
Originally Posted By jimmybobjim⏩
I take it you've never heard of Vancouver, Toronto, Australia or all of New Zealand.what does that have to do with anything you nimrod. Stop trying to insert your xenophobia into a random thread.
Chinese money floods the market, making shiit stupid expensive. But even then, the Chinese have ways around the laws and policies in place
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Originally Posted By CircleofGains⏩
bruh that is the thing, a crash would be the natural expectation but they have enough capitol to manipulate the market, the same as last year stock market that was pumped.It's funny to see people hope for a market crash hoarding cash and looking to swoop in like they're Warren Buffett lol. Everyone was predicting a crash when covid came through and the market actually became super hot across the board. Where we're at in the US right now is mainly a supply and demand problem. Yeah the Fed is inflating asset prices by keeping interest rates low too. Smart money (like Blackstone) is getting into residential real estate as a hedge against inflation.
My prediction: inventory is unlikely to change in a meaningful way in the short term so we will likely be still dealing with intense competition and bidding wars for the next few years assuming interest rates are kept artificially low. Housing prices will continue to rise and become more unaffordable to the average person. Sure we might get some foreclosures and short sales that eventually come through down the road but these are slow moving forces so it's not like it will be a massive wave of foreclosures.
If you own property right now and have a better use for the cash it's definitely worth considering selling in one of the strongest sellers markets in modern history.
Source: I'm a realtor that mostly works with a lot of investors
My prediction: inventory is unlikely to change in a meaningful way in the short term so we will likely be still dealing with intense competition and bidding wars for the next few years assuming interest rates are kept artificially low. Housing prices will continue to rise and become more unaffordable to the average person. Sure we might get some foreclosures and short sales that eventually come through down the road but these are slow moving forces so it's not like it will be a massive wave of foreclosures.
If you own property right now and have a better use for the cash it's definitely worth considering selling in one of the strongest sellers markets in modern history.
Source: I'm a realtor that mostly works with a lot of investors
If youre a realtor who makes a percentage off the sales price then of course you dont want the crash or gravy train to end vs the individual buyer who has the opposite goal
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A crash will never happen. We have far too much demand for a house that will override the incoming supply of potential foreclosures or new homes.
The only thing people are seeing by the "market cooling" is two things:
1) People are going to get ready to travel again, so less money invested into their current/future home
2) People were trying to cause bidding wars with undervaluing their homes; causing a massive spike in competition. From watching my market, homes either have less bidders; or are pulled off the market and slowly dropped in price.
Everyone hoping for a crash - specifically first-time homebuyers - better get peppered, because chances are there is someone else out there who can outbid you np.
The only thing people are seeing by the "market cooling" is two things:
1) People are going to get ready to travel again, so less money invested into their current/future home
2) People were trying to cause bidding wars with undervaluing their homes; causing a massive spike in competition. From watching my market, homes either have less bidders; or are pulled off the market and slowly dropped in price.
Everyone hoping for a crash - specifically first-time homebuyers - better get peppered, because chances are there is someone else out there who can outbid you np.
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06-30-2021, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Did this actually make sense inside of that mirror polished silky smooth brain of yours?the entire market gets pushed up from the initial cash flow from refinancing of properties that aren't being sold. It ABSOLUTELY is a house of cards. If you dont get anything else from what I am saying, at least understand that.The same dollar is getting spent multiple times...
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06-30-2021, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By JayDigital⏩
This lolYour realtor should have asked buyer to provide proof of funds prior to presenting, or at least getting you to agree to, their offer.
how tf was this not discovered until after the initial closing date
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Originally Posted By al****orilla⏩
Never really understood this phrase. Like, its going to be a great time to sell for a while still, so being greedy in this case and selling would be beneficial, while holding and eventually hitting the dump would be detrimental. I get it in terms of purchasing stocks and commodities, but if a market is hot nows the time to sell (if you want to of course).Be fearful when others are greedy
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