They watched a Joe Rogan podcast and clearly that outweighs the need for good scientific evidence in the form of a large scale well conducted, double blind randomized clinically controlled trial.

We should just take disgraced inactive academic Brett Weinstein and fringe doctor chitforbrains' speculative ideas over actual evidence. Clearly the media is more reliable than the scientific literature.

iT mEanS iTs wOrkInG!!

Farm & livestock supply stores. It's the exact same stuff, you just need to figure out how to adjust for human dosages.

1% injectable can be taken orally with a shot of apple juice. Make sure it doesn't have extra medicine in it you don't need.

This lady blogs about Catholicism, but she's been on the ivermectin train for months and months and has been posting useful info about it, as well as dispensing doses for free to her friends and acquaintances who've asked for it.

https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/

where is the scientific evidence that people who already had covid go get the vaccine anyways? why are all government policies based on this and ignore natural immunity? surely the government has only based their policies on some scientific evidence?

KILL SHOT BRAIN CLOT LEAKED AUTOPSY
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZZgW4zwmviEG/



CDC PRETENDING to investigate their bioweapon caused deaths.
https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-investiga...154136474.html

MOre war crime level lies from MSM/pharma psychopaths:

https://news.yahoo.com/missouri-woma...144312388.html
"A Missouri woman didn't want a COVID-19 vaccine for fear of side effects. She caught the Delta variant and died."

"Quick hurry up and take the death shot so you too can get a fatal brain blood clot like in the above video!"

You asked why pharmaceutical companies would prefer some treatments to be standard over others for reasons of profit. There is clearly a financial incentive for them.

As to efficacy, there are reviews which say it works

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

It is curious that there are doctors insisting it is wildly effective, while some studies seem to demonstrate it is or isn't.

I'm just glad I don't have to worry about it either way as I am under 40 and not a fat fuk

Thanks for the link, that's a good paper.

I've been trying to understand the various positions. It seems some believe people should refuse the vaccines for 2 reasons:

1) Pharmaceutical companies cannot be trusted;

2) Covid is harmless for most people.

But, it also seems those same people believe others should start taking a pharmaceutical anti-parasite medication daily, even recommending using livestock supplies to prepare and dose themselves, to protect themselves from Covid.

These positions seem inconsistent.

Which we will get in October 2022 for Moderna / April 2023 for Pfitzer. Until then you're just talking out of your ass and parroting big pharma's propaganda.

My thoughts:
Maybe it does fuk-all and is completely nothing when it comes to covid. Although, we saw the same thing with HCQ initially, tons and tons of studies showed how it was useless, potentially harmful even. Then, later, after more scrutiny, we learn it might be very helpful if taken early.

So, go figure. Science can be manipulated we have seen and there are a lot of powerful people who control the purse strings to pretty much every scientific study who will make record profits from this and make almost nothing from ivm.

That doesn't mean it works, just that I don't fully trust the study or review that shot it down. Been down this road already.

You mean, "to save life". In her own hypothetical numbers, of the MILLION children 12-17 getting covid... one died.

She also pretends to know the exact risks associated with the vaccines, despite there being no actual studies of any length there. How does that work? Is that science?"Well we don't know. I'll assume XYZ. XYZ ain't so bad. See? Get the vaccine!".

Maybe the vaccine is x10 safer, I'm not saying otherwise. Although, were it me? I think I'd take my 1 in 1,000,000 risk of covid rather than the unknown threats of a vaccine.

Science is a process, a strategy, a happening, a METHOD,
Science is not supposed to be an INSTITUTION.

When someone says to "listen to the science", the *true meaning* is to:
"follow the scientific METHOD",

But the *implied demand* is to;
"follow the scientific INSTITUTION.


Unless any of us DOES the scientific METHOD/PROCESS exactly for ourselves with our own equipment and our own resources and with our own eyes - then whatever anyone else tells us, is - like it or not - FAITH BASED.

We can CHOOSE whether or not to trust that they (institution) followed the SCIENTIFIC PROCESS - and our FAITH will make our FATE.

Those who are OVERWRITING the concept of SCIENTIFIC-METHOD with SCIENTIFIC-INSTITUTION and preaching for people to "follow the science" (institution) and "trust the science" (institution) are DEFACTO PREACHING A FAITH-BASED RELIGION.


And where are they asking people to place their faith? In institutions.
Whether those institutions have chequered pasts or are squeaky clean is totally irrelevant to the fact that to place trust in them at all is still a faith. Make a choice or don't make a choice - whatever - but it's still a faith.


This SLEIGHT OF HAND - slide the magic card of institution over the troublesome card of method and hey-presto, the mind is bound and con-fused. Which is which - both are "science", slip and slide, before your eyes.



The following response is going to be "then who should we trust, blah blah blah" - which is just another tactic to divert from the conclusion already displayed above - don't think that some of us can't easily see the word-games being played. FLAK FLAK FLAK. WORD-SALAD-FLAK, *away* from the 'TARGET'.

People (tend to) believe what they want to believe.

We all have a right to make our own judgements - choose for yourself, I am only replying in this thread to point out the neuro-linguistic magic trick, to even the playing field a little more.

Do as you will.

but but muh 8 week study

COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease J. Bart Classen, MD*

https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid1...sease-1503.pdf

Antibody Dependence Enhancement and the Covid Vaccines-


"The Unknown Unknown: Humanity in the Crosshairs of “Vaccine” Generated Antibody-Dependent Enhancement"

https://ghionjournal.com/humanity-cr...t-enhancement/

Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease "[COVID-19 vaccines] may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols..."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/


Decades' Worth of Research Has Shown Us That ALL Attempts At Making Coronavirus Vaccines Result In Antibody Dependent Enhancement And/Or Liver Damage And/Or Prion Disease.

A perspective on potential antibody-dependent enhancement of SARS-CoV-2 | Nature

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2538-8

Antibody-dependent enhancement of coronavirus - PubMed

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32920233/

Evaluation of modified vaccinia virus Ankara based recombinant SARS vaccine in ferrets - PubMed

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15755610/

SARS vaccine linked to liver damage in ferret study | CIDRAP

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...e-ferret-study

Immunization with Modified Vaccinia Virus Ankara-Based Recombinant Vaccine against Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Is Associated with Enhanced Hepatitis in Ferrets | Journal of Virology

https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10...672-12676.2004

Humoral immune responses in rabbits induced by an experimental inactivated severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus vaccine prepared from F69 strain - PubMed

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15569476/

Comparative evaluation of two severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) vaccine candidates in mice challenged with SARS coronavirus - PubMed

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16476986/

Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies | Nature Microbiology

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5

Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0035421

PLOS ONE: Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...e.0035421.g003

Pathogenic priming likely contributes to serious and critical illness and mortality in COVID-19 via autoimmunity - ScienceDirect
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...89909020300186

The SARS-CoV ferret model in an infection-challenge study - PubMed

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18234270/

Immune Responses and Disease Enhancement during Respiratory Syncytial Virus Infection | Clinical Microbiology Reviews (RSV is not a coronavirus, but its structure is extremely similar and the vaccine attempts have yielded similar results.)

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128...rmanently=true

RSV, Measles, and Dengue vaccines all caused ADE at some point. Good explanation of ADE as well..

https://www.chop.edu/centers-program...t-and-vaccines

At the Intersection Between SARS-CoV-2, Macro****es and the Adaptive Immune Response: A Key Role for Antibody-Dependent Pathogenesis But Not Enhancement of Infection in COVID-19

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...02.22.432407v1

Antibody-Dependent Enhancement and the Coronavirus Vaccines

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipelin...virus-vaccines

Immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccines leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22536382/

anybody see the new fema video saying the best way to prepare for a hurricane is to take the vaccine

https://www.climatedepot.com/2021/07...id-19-vaccine/

clownworld

This one again?

"Many have raised the warning that the current epidemic of COVID-19 is actually the result of an bioweapons attack released in part by individuals in the United States government [10,11]. Such a theory is not far fetched given that the 2001 anthrax attack in the US originated at Fort Detrick, a US army bioweapon facility.

Because the FBI’s anthrax investigation was closed against the advice of the lead FBI agent in the case, there are likely conspirators still working in the US government. In such a scenario the primary focus of stopping a bioweapons attack must be to apprehend the conspirators or the attacks will never cease. Approving a vaccine, utilizing novel RNA technology without extensive testing is extremely dangerous. The vaccine could be a bioweapon and even more dangerous than the original infection."

John Barthelow Classen is an American immunologist and anti-vaccinationist.[1] He received his M.D. from the University of Maryland, Baltimore in 1988, his M.B.A. from Columbia University in 1992 and obtained his medical license in October 1997.[2][3] He is best known for publishing research concluding that vaccines, in particular the Hib vaccine, cause insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus,[4] a hypothesis he proposed based on experiments he conducted on mice in 1996.[5] His views are disputed and considered unverified.

A widely-reposted 2021 ******** post claiming that the mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 could cause prion diseases was based on a paper by Classen. The paper "COVID-19 RNA based vaccines and the risk of prion disease" was published in Microbiology and Infectious Diseases, whose publisher, Scivision Publishers, is included in Beall's list of publishers of predatory journals. Vincent Racaniello, professor of microbiology and immunology at Columbia University, described the claim as "completely wrong".[1][6][7] Tulane University virologist Robert Garry stated that Classen has offered no evidence for the three pillars of his argument: that the sequence overlaps between the Pfizer vaccine are greater than occur with any randomly-selected stretch of RNA, or that the vaccine could cause zinc to be released and that doing so would affect its purported targets as he proposes.

And what of the 20 other studies showing antibodie dependency?

& the creator getting Prion disease..?

Also just for the record..soo Covid is a bio weapon but not the vaccine..?


Mmmkahay

Did you read them?

"SARS-CoV immunization studies in animal models have thus produced results that vary greatly in terms of protective efficacy, immunopathology and potential ADE, depending on the vaccine strategy employed. Despite this, vaccines that elicit neutralizing antibodies against the S protein reliably protect animals from SARS-CoV challenge without evidence of enhancement of infection or disease71,72,73. These data suggest that human immunization strategies for SARS-CoV-2 that elicit high neutralizing antibody titres have a high chance of success with minimal risk of ADE. For example, subunit vaccines that can elicit S-specific neutralizing antibodies should present lower ADE risks (especially against S stabilized in the prefusion conformation, to reduce the presentation of non-neutralizing epitopes8). These modern immunogen design approaches should reduce potential immunopathology associated with non-neutralizing antibodies."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5

Yes, we can go through all of them.

You cited an article..not a study

Uhhh, it's from your list of evidence (4th one).

Uhh..yea, it’s an article..not a study...you only quoted a portion of it..did you happen to finish reading or nah?

Yah

Final paragraph:

"Going forwards, it will be crucial to evaluate animal and clinical datasets for signs of ADE, and to balance ADE-related safety risks against intervention efficacy if clinical ADE is observed. Ongoing animal and human clinical studies will provide important insights into the mechanisms of ADE in COVID-19. Such evidence is sorely needed to ensure product safety in the large-scale medical interventions that are likely required to reduce the global burden of COVID-19."

That's proof of vaccines causing prion disease?

NO, IF YOU REMEBER MY ORIGINAL STATEMENT..Decades' Worth of Research Has Shown Us That ALL Attempts At Making Coronavirus Vaccines Result In Antibody Dependent Enhancement And/Or Liver Damage And/Or Prion Disease.

The specific paper you quoted shows Antibody Dependent Enhancement

Shocking Study Reveals mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines May Progressively Degenerate Your Brain From Prion Diseas

https://greatgameindia.com/mrna-vacc...ACE2_Receptors

I realize you'll have a problem with the source, so here id the study:

SARS-CoV-2 Prion-Like Domains in Spike Proteins Enable Higher Affinity to ACE2
http://hmi-us.com/publications/sars-...y-to-ace2.html

One of the AstraZeneca scientist actually died from Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (prion disease) after taking the “vaccine” that his company created. His name was Jose Baselga.

As far as you having a problem with the bio-weapon paper, I'm really not seeing why?Mad Cow disease is the name for prion diseases in cows it has some other name in humans.
Prions are self replicating misfolded proteins. They are extremely contagious and impossible to destroy with disinfectants.
Very good for bioweapons because the infected or in this case injected won't even know they are sick untill its to late at which point the symptoms rapidly progress. Prions are a brutual way to go out.

Repped.IDK about the potential for prion disease or liver damage. I do remember hearing that prior attempts at a coronavirus vaccine ended in ADE. And ADE was an issue that some people were looking out for with the current vaccines, but so far it hasn't shown up.

Actually concerned with Covid itself causing Prion Disease..SARS-CoV-2 was the only coronavirus with a prion-like domain found in the receptor-binding domain of the S1 region of the spike protein

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein interactions with amyloidogenic proteins: Potential clues to neurodegeneration

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7988450/

Prions cause Alzheimer's, Parkinsons, Autism and can affect the central nervous system.


Get some ivermectin Kataya..ded srs, look at my thread on it, still don't believe, look at the reviews on amazon..Durvet Ivermectin Paste Equine Dewormer

"Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56910393

Oh gee..wonder what this could be...


Prions made in the lab

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...rtju6ND80WFh3g

Wonderful post

Theres sheep everywhere blindly following institutions and using illogical responses to defend themselves

It's only on the Acadian Peninsula
The cases go back to 2013
Prion disease has been ruled out
Environmental exposure suspected
A smelter operated for years, recently shut down (2019)

Ruled out by whom?

A simple search will yield quite a bit of information regarding both Covid & the vaccines leading to Prion disease.
Dr. Fleming describes dire outcome of those infected with Covid or receiving the vaccine. Prion Disease leading to Neurogenic failure from Lewy Body formation.
I constantly of people saying “I have COVID BRAIN”..
Dementia, then Death.
Research out of the Netherlands show that rhesus monkey got Lewy Bodies in their brains after being infected with the virus. Lewy body are form by prions and are the 2nd cause of dementia after Alzheimer’s.


https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4...6e26a51be0.pdf

Now what does it means if true? It means that everyone that got really sick early from covid last year will start developing dementia by this time next year or so (according to Dr Fleming based upon the animals analog in those studies, the estimate is about 2 years, but will vary greatly with natural infection). Next in about 2 years you will see the people that got vaccinated will go through the same thing.”

Biden said the other day every hospital bed in the country in (can't remember how many, 10 maybe) years would be filled with an alzheimers patient. Weird.

The spike protein outer shell of the coronavirus contains "prion-like regions" that give the virus very high adhesion to ACE2 receptors in the human body. This has been documented by a study entitled, "SARS-CoV-2 Prion-Like Domains in Spike Proteins Enable Higher Affinity to ACE2," published by the Human Microbiology Institute: The presence and unique distribution of prion-like domains in the SARS-CoV-2 receptor-binding domains of the spike protein is particularly interesting, since although the SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV S proteins share the same host cell receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), SARS-CoV-2 demonstrates a 10- to 20-fold higher affinity for ACE2 The mRNA vaccine works by hijacking your body's cells and causing them to churn out proteins modeled after the spike proteins in the SARS-cov-2 coronavirus.

http://hmi-us.com/publications/sars-...y-to-ace2.html