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post 1642395363 07-08-2021, 05:41 AM
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Why do people hate on ambitious people?

Like when you start off poor and unpopular, and then as you strategically work your way up, people sorta of just start to hate you when you are more well accomplished than them.

I think that it's jealously or their brain just starts short circuiting.

Like they always saw you as 'below them' and now you're on top and they find reasons how they're better than you because they were better at sport or banged more girls, etc.
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post 1642395453 07-08-2021, 05:45 AM
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People without a good social purpose, like civilized moral grounding end up blindly competitive.
post 1642395523 07-08-2021, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
People without a good social purpose, like civilized moral grounding end up blindly competitive.
Why do you hold this belief?
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post 1642395693 07-08-2021, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Why do you hold this belief?
Why do you hold deez nutz?
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post 1642395793 07-08-2021, 05:57 AM
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post 1642395893 07-08-2021, 06:00 AM
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post 1642395903 07-08-2021, 06:00 AM
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Nobody does. Ambition gets the pussy wet. Moreoso if you're average looking and already have money.
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post 1642395963 07-08-2021, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Why do you hold this belief?
It's true, not a belief.

Human nature cannot help a domination motivation. Without social order for this, people misuse it.
post 1642396083 07-08-2021, 06:05 AM
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Just been talking about a somewhat related topic ms G. I ugh of course with relation to her? Merely understand that given what public information is on the internet about me, case and point bb... the truth that surrounds it and so forth? That there may have been some validity to certain concerns being had. I’d merely been trying tj qualm said concerns, not make it a competitive issue... when no one ever speaks to you directly and all you gotta go off is subliminal in nature? Then you gotta make a whole lot of inferences and best case guesses, that aren’t always right. Yet I have to assume that she is aware of the fact that on looks alone she doesn’t stack up to a large number of women I’d been with/wanted/wanted... point I’d been trying tj make is that’s irrelevant, would be shallow of me and changes nothing in the least for her. How do I address this plus? It’s not that straightforward. I just know? That I was the guy at penn state that 9/10 women used for one night stands but wouldn’t date because of intimidation the competition. So I’d just compared it to that despite? Having the system gamed to cause weight gain, lack of fresh knowledge, a confidence killer to some degree and...

Most important to me? Is that I ensure marriage or close friendship? That the relationship continues in a genuine manner that avoids games or slight of hands... very important to me.
post 1642396543 07-08-2021, 06:17 AM
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To be fair, the *******s that make this earth a terrible place to live are almost exclusively highly motivated individuals.
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post 1642396753 07-08-2021, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
It's true, not a belief.

Human nature cannot help a domination motivation. Without social order for this, people misuse it.
Go on, extrapolate on this and give me your insights.
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post 1642396853 07-08-2021, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
It's true, not a belief.

Human nature cannot help a domination motivation. Without social order for this, people misuse it.
To some degree but not across the board by any means. Being competitive in business is very different than personal relationships. Also? This weird thing I’ve seemingly been experiencing as of recent? Is women acting competitively with me, or seeking some unrealistic? It’s so foreign to me and will forever be foreign to me no matter how much I encounter it. Compete with males all day... females unless perpetrators of immense wrongdoing? Are the furthest thing from competition... it’s not natural to compete with the opposite gender. My whole life I’ve acted in servitude towards women. Just because I know some women may have/be fearful the relationship circumstances that did surround me? Or potential future competition with other females? Doesn’t mean that, I’m a bad guy, it’s my fault, has in any way been my decision for it to be like that. I’d not been as any other normal masculine male? Needing to get it out of my system and learn from my mistakes. Just because people may have tried to write me off as toxic? When I’d done so much for women in my life and I’d just had a lot of women available to me... So if you’re not doing it right or something is messed up your gone. Is a free market, I’m not an orbiter. Sorry the majority of whom you come into contact with? Aren’t like me, or whatever... or that you confuse some clown who’s intentionally a dueche bag to women/in general with me? Just because I have/had options, am in no way desperate, have standards or have/had a large pool of women to choose from? Doesn’t mean something negative. Not calling myself an alpha male... But alpha males are gonna alpha male and women need tj accept it as reality/adapt tj gain the benefits of it... Not confuse it with a man who’s just trying tj take advantage or not do the right thing.

Stop the attack on men, appropriately define such nonsensical terms like toxic masculinity. Not saying it doesn’t exist, it does but the fact of the matter is? Is been my experience that women hate all the things they love about these sort of men and don’t try tj make any accommodations for that which they’d not get otherwise... renaissance breh
post 1642396903 07-08-2021, 06:27 AM
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post 1642396933 07-08-2021, 06:29 AM
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Never really experienced this but I move around all the time, so I've only really kept a close group of 4 or so friends that are my brahs. If you're an ambitious person find ambitious and supportive friends, JFL at having loser friends with a crab-in-a-bucket mentality. I've had phases where I stop lifting or just kind of LDAR for a few months but no one really comments on it to my face or anything, and I generally move on to something new after I get into one of those phases.

The only time I was really in a 'bad' way was at the start of puberty/start of high school when I was like 5'5 130 and bullied for being small. From there I joined this site at 15 at about the same time the test started overflowing, became pretty dedicated to lifting to the point I was gigachad by the time I graduated high school. I switched high schools about a year into weightlifting when I was in pretty good shape, so everyone at my 'final' high school always knew me as a chad. Weightlifting definitely changed my life a lot in a positive way.

I recall that people tried to chit on me to some extent back then but rarely to my face or anything. There was one ugly chick that mentioned to me 'I don't see why people find you attractive' randomly in a class and half the people lol'd at her, that was a good time. So yeah, not really sure how you experience this unless you have loser "friends" and you don't call them out/move on after they start acting negative.
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
To be fair, the *******s that make this earth a terrible place to live are almost exclusively highly motivated individuals.
For real, after getting sober I’d come to the conclusion I’d had two choices. I’d spent my entire life avoiding society, sticking tj street code... Partying all day long and smashing ladies. When I’d checked off the finish college box? Okay time to get sober, from street drugs and party intentions not stop necessary prescriptions? I’d woke up to see a world I’d very much so not been happy with living. Of course with my opponents in this and those I regard as enemies. I talk down to, act arrogant or take bottled up rage/trauma and have it come out in weird ways.

However, this is only because of the crazy amount of unfair advantages the doj and Lea had given these people and what they’d been allowed to do. My intentions are to better the world and fix what I see wrong. Wolf and lead, not squash everyone. Yet I can’t help but revel in the fact that, I’d hit so many home runs during this for rico and their abuse of the justice system has prevented or delayed the standard outcome.

Asset forfeiture.
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Anyways, to wrap up my point I’d been trying to make before I’d got side tracked? Is that I’d realized I’d had two choices, put my head down and go back to my old life? Or change everything I’d seen wrong with the world or die trying. I’m an addict and despite no longer being addicted to drugs have and will always have that mentality. All or nothing, succeed or die. I’d wanted so bad to exit the party life and move on. I’d always set the goal for college graduation... go to college party crazy, wrap it up and move on. Despite going in with these intentions? I’d gotten carried away thanks to unreasonable dea crack downs(no surprise there) and deep sadness over the loss of my hs gf... allowing things to go further than they’d should have. Which is why I’d had such immense frustration about people trying to keep me trapped into it, or prevent me from obtaining meds they’d known id needed to work shady angles. Not acceptable to me.

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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Go on, extrapolate on this and give me your insights.
I discovered this myself when trying to organize my thoughts.

You can refer to another work if you like, I discovered after: Bertrand Russel mentioned these in a speech:https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/0...ptance-speech/"rivalry" he called this motivation.

Humans are driven by these motivations, mostly indulgences besides domination, and this destabilizes people without some structure. Family, religious-like centering, law and order and supporting a team or side can allow people to calm their domination drive with some direction.

Really, without family values, people often lose their bearings into drug abuse, perverted stuff, etc.

Fighting for your side of exclusive, legitimate people, fighting for your family and a system supporting seniority, etc. makes sense to direct this drive without becoming a rogue hedonist. It is hard to organize a positive social aim without some structure like this.
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
I discovered this myself when trying to organize my thoughts.

You can refer to another work if you like, I discovered after: Bertrand Russel mentioned these in a speech:https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/0...ptance-speech/"rivalry" he called this motivation.

Humans are driven by these motivations, mostly indulgences besides domination, and this destabilizes people without some structure. Family, religious-like centering, law and order and supporting a team or side can allow people to calm their domination drive with some direction.

Really, without family values, people often lose their bearings into drug abuse, perverted stuff, etc.

Fighting for your side of exclusive, legitimate people, fighting for your family and a system supporting seniority, etc. makes sense to direct this drive without becoming a rogue hedonist. It is hard to organize a positive social aim without some structure like this.
That's interesting because i never really understood why people support a particular side or sporting team - heck, i don't even vote.

I just think it's all the same.

I did party quite a bit but i was like 18-23 or whatever.

I don't do anything detrimental really and i am even more so neutral to things in life.

All the same to me brah.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
That's interesting because i never really understood why people support a particular side or sporting team - heck, i don't even vote.

I just think it's all the same.

I did party quite a bit but i was like 18-23 or whatever.

I don't do anything detrimental really and i am even more so neutral to things in life.

All the same to me brah.
Ideally, you connect with life without a side. Some rough people might try to take advantage of you without some exclusivity to filter them out, I noticed.
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
Ideally, you connect with life without a side. Some rough people might try to take advantage of you without some exclusivity to filter them out, I noticed.
Yeah dude but i was competitive in other ways, but i've also stopped with that.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Yeah dude but i was competitive in other ways, but i've also stopped with that.
You only need to be competitive with yourself. Try to be a better you than the day before.
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Originally Posted By chaunce54⏩
You only need to be competitive with yourself. Try to be a better you than the day before.
Yeah dude i know what you mean, i'm learning to do stuff for the love of it and not for the end result.
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In my own personal experience, my cousin in law criticized me because I write stories online and plan to self publish comics. He just plays video games and smokes weed all day, with no creative hobbies.

People with no ambition criticize people who want more out of life.
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