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07-11-2021, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Dontoewsmebro⏩
What do you think someone that was vaccined was saying looking like dawn of the dead...Yeehaw gotta roll em sometime!
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07-11-2021, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Dontoewsmebro⏩
She says young sloots dont want to date their bosses. Yet young sloots continue to date their bosses so I am confused.
07-11-2021, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
mainstream cuck normie detected. Although with the amount of times you spend indoors posting troll comments on dead forums, you were never at risk of catching any virus anywaysAll good questions, and after asking them, the logical conclusion is to take the vaccine.
07-11-2021, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
It's interesting that the people who claim to care about the health of the population were likely the same ones who supported shutting down gyms, swimming pools, and health clubs. They also shamed people who spent time outside unless they were protesting/rioting. All during an obesity epidemic that leads to all kinds of complications including being more vulnerable to covid.Somewhat sensible take, but there is a reason to get it -- it helps protect the vulnerable in our population.
07-11-2021, 04:37 AM
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apparently you can get and die of 2 different variants of COVID at the same time , i'm waiting until its 3
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07-11-2021, 04:57 AM
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there is no evidence to suggest the Delta variant is any less virulent. Not sure where people are getting that from?
RL data is showing very few hospitalisations within the fully vaccinated.
Pfizer vaccine is 96% effective against hospitalisation after 2 doses
Oxford vaccine is 92% after 2 doses
Fewer Covid cases more resources to treat other acute and chronic conditions. So entire society wins
It’s not about individual self preservation it’s about personal values you are supposed to hold dear: yaknow “we the people”, “the greater good”, “Love each other as I have loved you“
RL data is showing very few hospitalisations within the fully vaccinated.
Pfizer vaccine is 96% effective against hospitalisation after 2 doses
Oxford vaccine is 92% after 2 doses
Fewer Covid cases more resources to treat other acute and chronic conditions. So entire society wins
It’s not about individual self preservation it’s about personal values you are supposed to hold dear: yaknow “we the people”, “the greater good”, “Love each other as I have loved you“
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Originally Posted By benedetto27⏩
Critical thinkers? You mean anti-vaxers.
Mainstream normies? You mean people that listen to experts and put some faith in what they do
We all here have had our baby shots......did we ask those same questions? Fuk no, and none of you dumbasses know the answers to those questions off the top of your head for polio, hep b......
Chit you dumbasses don't even know what any of the viruses are you get when you're a child let alone who manufacturers them and created them.
lol buncha morons......it's ok to question but being a dumbass and questioning is on a whole other level. You wouldn't understand even if the top experts explained it.
07-11-2021, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
And if dumbasses didn't turn this subject to a political bullchit argument, we would have been leaps and bounds further than we are now......there is no evidence to suggest the Delta variant is any less virulent. Not sure where people are getting that from?
RL data is showing very few hospitalisations within the fully vaccinated.
Pfizer vaccine is 96% effective against hospitalisation after 2 doses
Oxford vaccine is 92% after 2 doses
Fewer Covid cases more resources to treat other acute and chronic conditions. So entire society wins
It’s not about individual self preservation it’s about personal values you are supposed to hold dear: yaknow “we the people”, “the greater good”, “Love each other as I have loved you“
RL data is showing very few hospitalisations within the fully vaccinated.
Pfizer vaccine is 96% effective against hospitalisation after 2 doses
Oxford vaccine is 92% after 2 doses
Fewer Covid cases more resources to treat other acute and chronic conditions. So entire society wins
It’s not about individual self preservation it’s about personal values you are supposed to hold dear: yaknow “we the people”, “the greater good”, “Love each other as I have loved you“
But well....we're here. And you sound strangely optimistic for having the same access to information as anyone else here. Luckily, I get brief'ed weekly.......
Your optimistic is poorly place, that I can assure you of.
07-11-2021, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
I have the benefit of being British, and while I think we have made an unholy cockup of the management of Covid since the start we also have decent vaccination rates, even in the throes of the more contagious delta variantAnd if dumbasses didn't turn this subject to a political bullchit argument, we would have been leaps and bounds further than we are now......
But well....we're here. And you sound strangely optimistic for having the same access to information as anyone else here. Luckily, I get brief'ed weekly.......
Your optimistic is poorly place, that I can assure you of.
But well....we're here. And you sound strangely optimistic for having the same access to information as anyone else here. Luckily, I get brief'ed weekly.......
Your optimistic is poorly place, that I can assure you of.
I also have links to PHE so my “optimism” comes from research and data and not blogs and ********
07-11-2021, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Does that mean you and I agree that a lot of the masses who are anti-covid vaccine are a little delusional?I also have links to PHE so my “optimism” comes from research and data.
Where do you stand on the vaccine?
07-11-2021, 05:53 AM
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need to keep this out there
07-11-2021, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
If only people who fell off stairs were able to pass it along to others who then fall down stairs who then pass it along to others and fall down stairs.need to keep this out there
What a joke of a screenshot......I swear these unintelligent people make me cringe so hard.
07-11-2021, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
yeah cause a vaccine rushed through half a year of testing is the same as vaccines that have been around for decades. you might be retarded bruhCritical thinkers? You mean anti-vaxers.
Mainstream normies? You mean people that listen to experts and put some faith in what they do
We all here have had our baby shots......did we ask those same questions? Fuk no, and none of you dumbasses know the answers to those questions off the top of your head for polio, hep b......
Chit you dumbasses don't even know what any of the viruses are you get when you're a child let alone who manufacturers them and created them.
lol buncha morons......it's ok to question but being a dumbass and questioning is on a whole other level. You wouldn't understand even if the top experts explained it.
Mainstream normies? You mean people that listen to experts and put some faith in what they do
We all here have had our baby shots......did we ask those same questions? Fuk no, and none of you dumbasses know the answers to those questions off the top of your head for polio, hep b......
Chit you dumbasses don't even know what any of the viruses are you get when you're a child let alone who manufacturers them and created them.
lol buncha morons......it's ok to question but being a dumbass and questioning is on a whole other level. You wouldn't understand even if the top experts explained it.
07-11-2021, 06:23 AM
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this "vaccine" has caused more deaths in 6 months than all other vaccines combined, ever.
"vaccine" is in quotes because it's actually not technically a vaccine, it's an experimental synthetic mRNA injection.
I had really low faith in humanity before covid, but seeing how many people are willing to put this sht into their bodies and their children's bodies has lowered my faith even lower. it's like I'm living with a bunch of automatons, like they have no consciousness whatsoever. it feels more than ever like this is all a simulation. fkn crazy man.
"vaccine" is in quotes because it's actually not technically a vaccine, it's an experimental synthetic mRNA injection.
I had really low faith in humanity before covid, but seeing how many people are willing to put this sht into their bodies and their children's bodies has lowered my faith even lower. it's like I'm living with a bunch of automatons, like they have no consciousness whatsoever. it feels more than ever like this is all a simulation. fkn crazy man.
07-11-2021, 06:42 AM
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To play Devil's advocate, I'd say that the public's trust in big pharma has nose dived in recent years. barely anyone was against the vaccines they released before. It's different now for reasons I'll include below in a list of reasons why some people are against this particular vaccine:
- Most of these companies have been fined billions for falsifying test results re safety
- Most having to compensate individuals
- Now they're all protected against having to pay compensation for this vaccine
- These companies mostly colluded to create an opioid epidemic in America and aided this by falsifying information on addictiveness.
- I don't know about the US but here in the UK most of the policy advisors have large amounts of shares in said companies.
- Policy advisors here have straight up stated on national TV the vax isn't the route to normality. Only cases are.
- Speaking of cases, people notice the news etc only speaks of cases, not deaths. It's completely meaningless so they realise they've being mislead by the media.
- Said advisors have stated future variants will make the vaccine far less effective. They then said there will definitely be more variants.
- People observe that barely anybody under like 50/without diabeetus/other issues have many effects from the rona. They also observe that young people can still feel for a couple of days like they've been hit by a train when they take the vaccine. Proper flu-like. The worst they'll get from the rona is sniffles.
- Policies such as mask wearing are bollocks. People can clearly see that loads of the policies either make no sense, are contradictory or obviously just phycological or punitive. Therefore when the same politicians are pushing for the vaccine, people think it may well be a bit dodgy...like pretty much all the data being used to justify all of it.
- Some of the "conspiracy theories" over the last year have proven to be either correct or have something in them. This includes examples like the vaccine passports and the lab escape. Media, politicians and online shills stated these were lunatic conspiracy theories. But they seem now to be correct. The most obvious one is that the "conspiracy theorists" correctly predicted rolling lockdowns this whole time. The shills/politicians/media have been like "JuSt TwO MoRE WeEkS BRo" lol.
- The above people have been wrong about nearly everything over the past year. They have a worse track record on this than the conspiracy theorists lol. Granted, you'd have to be a fukking idiot not to see a year ago how this'd play. The point is that we're expected to swallow without question everything said by those who did not call it and dismiss out of hand without question everything said by those who did call it. People look at these track records and favourably look at things said by anti-vaxxers and take with a grain of salt what's being said by pro-vaxxers for this reason.
Like I say, I'm merely playing Devil's Advocate. I took the vaccine (though experienced from it worse symptoms than I'd have gotten from the rona) so I'm not an "anti-vaxxer" but if you have no questions about it and believe what politicians (or their "scientific advisors" whose job is to tell the public whatever the government tells them lol) or the media say on it without question then you have chit for brains just like the worst of the conspiracy theorists out there.
Some of what the anti-vaxx crowd say can be explained away. For example, they'll say it's been rushed out massively. Usually it takes years for vaccines to be developed while this one has taken a few months. We can answer that by pointing out that like 95% of the timeline for vaccines normally is bureaucracy. There are answers to lots of questions the anti-vaxxers have. But instead of just answering them, the conversation gets shut down, big tech hide it/ban it. This doesn't make people go "oh well I must have been wrong. It makes them go...
To, to conclude, the overarching reason anti-vaxx stuff has gained traction is because many of the people shilling for the vaccine (mainstream media, politicians, pharma conglomerates, advisors like Fauci etc, big tech companies who censor information, online shills etc etc) have proven themselves to be even less trustworthy than conspiracy theorists.
- Most of these companies have been fined billions for falsifying test results re safety
- Most having to compensate individuals
- Now they're all protected against having to pay compensation for this vaccine
- These companies mostly colluded to create an opioid epidemic in America and aided this by falsifying information on addictiveness.
- I don't know about the US but here in the UK most of the policy advisors have large amounts of shares in said companies.
- Policy advisors here have straight up stated on national TV the vax isn't the route to normality. Only cases are.
- Speaking of cases, people notice the news etc only speaks of cases, not deaths. It's completely meaningless so they realise they've being mislead by the media.
- Said advisors have stated future variants will make the vaccine far less effective. They then said there will definitely be more variants.
- People observe that barely anybody under like 50/without diabeetus/other issues have many effects from the rona. They also observe that young people can still feel for a couple of days like they've been hit by a train when they take the vaccine. Proper flu-like. The worst they'll get from the rona is sniffles.
- Policies such as mask wearing are bollocks. People can clearly see that loads of the policies either make no sense, are contradictory or obviously just phycological or punitive. Therefore when the same politicians are pushing for the vaccine, people think it may well be a bit dodgy...like pretty much all the data being used to justify all of it.
- Some of the "conspiracy theories" over the last year have proven to be either correct or have something in them. This includes examples like the vaccine passports and the lab escape. Media, politicians and online shills stated these were lunatic conspiracy theories. But they seem now to be correct. The most obvious one is that the "conspiracy theorists" correctly predicted rolling lockdowns this whole time. The shills/politicians/media have been like "JuSt TwO MoRE WeEkS BRo" lol.
- The above people have been wrong about nearly everything over the past year. They have a worse track record on this than the conspiracy theorists lol. Granted, you'd have to be a fukking idiot not to see a year ago how this'd play. The point is that we're expected to swallow without question everything said by those who did not call it and dismiss out of hand without question everything said by those who did call it. People look at these track records and favourably look at things said by anti-vaxxers and take with a grain of salt what's being said by pro-vaxxers for this reason.
Like I say, I'm merely playing Devil's Advocate. I took the vaccine (though experienced from it worse symptoms than I'd have gotten from the rona) so I'm not an "anti-vaxxer" but if you have no questions about it and believe what politicians (or their "scientific advisors" whose job is to tell the public whatever the government tells them lol) or the media say on it without question then you have chit for brains just like the worst of the conspiracy theorists out there.
Some of what the anti-vaxx crowd say can be explained away. For example, they'll say it's been rushed out massively. Usually it takes years for vaccines to be developed while this one has taken a few months. We can answer that by pointing out that like 95% of the timeline for vaccines normally is bureaucracy. There are answers to lots of questions the anti-vaxxers have. But instead of just answering them, the conversation gets shut down, big tech hide it/ban it. This doesn't make people go "oh well I must have been wrong. It makes them go...
To, to conclude, the overarching reason anti-vaxx stuff has gained traction is because many of the people shilling for the vaccine (mainstream media, politicians, pharma conglomerates, advisors like Fauci etc, big tech companies who censor information, online shills etc etc) have proven themselves to be even less trustworthy than conspiracy theorists.
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07-11-2021, 06:44 AM
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people have got so distracted by this BS that no one gives a fck about the UFO lol
07-11-2021, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
Baby shots are for tetanus which can literally fukin kill you or render you paralyzed. This vaccine is for a bitchass cold virus that can only cause illness for people with an abundance of ACE2 receptors which there is no test for. By contrast SARS-CoV killed 800 globally without any intervention. Lol @ covidcelsCritical thinkers? You mean anti-vaxers.
Mainstream normies? You mean people that listen to experts and put some faith in what they do
We all here have had our baby shots......did we ask those same questions? Fuk no, and none of you dumbasses know the answers to those questions off the top of your head for polio, hep b......
Chit you dumbasses don't even know what any of the viruses are you get when you're a child let alone who manufacturers them and created them.
lol buncha morons......it's ok to question but being a dumbass and questioning is on a whole other level. You wouldn't understand even if the top experts explained it.
Mainstream normies? You mean people that listen to experts and put some faith in what they do
We all here have had our baby shots......did we ask those same questions? Fuk no, and none of you dumbasses know the answers to those questions off the top of your head for polio, hep b......
Chit you dumbasses don't even know what any of the viruses are you get when you're a child let alone who manufacturers them and created them.
lol buncha morons......it's ok to question but being a dumbass and questioning is on a whole other level. You wouldn't understand even if the top experts explained it.
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the companies made it available, its up to you to take it or not. No one is forcing you, simple as that
07-11-2021, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted By OffwhiteBrah⏩
except they are already going door to door harassing people into taking it that's the first step the next step is you have to take it or there will be consequences.the companies made it available, its up to you to take it or not. No one is forcing you, simple as that
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We’ve been in this pandemic for 18 months now and I still do not know one person who was diagnosed with COVID. So what motive do I have to get vaccinated?
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Originally Posted By RippedPlz⏩
When you understand what it can do to your body, you won't want to take it.like what?
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Originally Posted By Mike86er⏩
this alone ensures i would not take it, does this apply to all other vaccines?- Now they're all protected against having to pay compensation for this vaccine
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07-11-2021, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted By OffwhiteBrah⏩
Incorrect. You can indirectly make someone feel they have no choice.the companies made it available, its up to you to take it or not. No one is forcing you, simple as that
You can enforce mandates for certain work sectors - brb if you want to work in this industry you need a shot.
You can make life so difficult without "TECHNICALLY" enforcing that people are coerced regardless.
Please tell me you could this out for yourself yeah?
And lol @ the other moron saying "Trust" with all the deception and proven rush vaccines. Including 80mill that got pulled not too long ago. Yeah "trust". Doctors and scientists having their videos deleted proving contrary data.
You have in the open the statistics, and then a misrepresentation. How can you "TRUST" that? I am mean, just lol @ attacking people who are carefully considering all the data and not blindly trusting a government.
They even have LEGAL IMMUNITY and no liability for any bad fallout. YEAH TRUST.
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Rushed vaccine, no studies done on long term side effects.
But the most important thing is that it's a vaccine for fukkin Covid. Somethin that has a 0.001% mortality rate for healthy young individuals.
Yet they want you to take untested rushed vaccines? Who in their right mind would take it?
It would be a different story if it was a vaccine for the Black Plague with 70% mortality rate and people dying left and right.
But the most important thing is that it's a vaccine for fukkin Covid. Somethin that has a 0.001% mortality rate for healthy young individuals.
Yet they want you to take untested rushed vaccines? Who in their right mind would take it?
It would be a different story if it was a vaccine for the Black Plague with 70% mortality rate and people dying left and right.
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many good reasons given
and maybe the fact that the virus is being used as a part of the Great Reset; and the official kick off of its active phase
and the fact that all 'vaccine providers' are limited to only members of the World Economic Forum which is the organizing body of the Great Reset (that's a verifiable fact - you can look it up yourself -https://www.weforum.org/partners#P)
and maybe the fact that the virus is being used as a part of the Great Reset; and the official kick off of its active phase
and the fact that all 'vaccine providers' are limited to only members of the World Economic Forum which is the organizing body of the Great Reset (that's a verifiable fact - you can look it up yourself -https://www.weforum.org/partners#P)
07-11-2021, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
It will never have a high infection death rate because it's low virulence. That's why like cold strains it's highly contagious and usually seasonal. Yet somehow they want to eliminate covid that's been around for WAY longer than when -19 started.Rushed vaccine, no studies done on long term side effects.
But the most important thing is that it's a vaccine for fukkin Covid. Somethin that has a 0.001% mortality rate for healthy young individuals.
Yet they want you to take untested rushed vaccines? Who in their right mind would take it?
It would be a different story if it was a vaccine for the Black Plague with 70% mortality rate and people dying left and right.
But the most important thing is that it's a vaccine for fukkin Covid. Somethin that has a 0.001% mortality rate for healthy young individuals.
Yet they want you to take untested rushed vaccines? Who in their right mind would take it?
It would be a different story if it was a vaccine for the Black Plague with 70% mortality rate and people dying left and right.
It's certainly presented like it's the black plague or 10 of the other epidemics that were way worse. Yet we're seeing more stringent measures than any of those.
When the host doesn't die a virus has more time to spread, that's the whole essence of something being highly contagious. The black plague was a short burst because the host would 1. Usually always die 2. Die quickly. Less time to spread.
Highschool level information > whole governments.
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